How did Islam get so popular?

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It is surprising and sad how victims of violence feel the guilt that should be felt by the unjudged perpetrators.
 
Sorry, I put my comment to you in my post to S.

I suppose you could argue like that, I am a historian and enjoyed a 3erd year course in Byzantine History. I think there is plenty of recorded information on the persecution of Christians simce the time of Mohammed to show that much of the persecution can be found to originate from the teachings of the Koran and prayers said by muslims. One can even fine comb the Torah and the great interpreting rabbi’s including the Ram Bam wherein we find that killing Christians is justified. However, you won’t find the Jews warring like the muslims now will you?

edited because my capitalization and typing and spelling is apallingly messy.
 
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These days, many people in free societies are converting to Islam.

However, I have read histories dating back to Mohamed. He led an army that targeted non-Muslim villages. The inhabitants would be offered a chance to convert. If not, the village was invaded. Mohamed and his troops would take spoils, which would be distributed among the soldiers. He and soldiers would decapitate men. Women and children were taken as slaves. One such campaign is described in Wikipedia.

It’s not a pretty picture.
 
Just curious, how many of those opining here on Islam actually knows any Muslims? I ask because, while I live and work in an area with a good sized Muslim population, I know many Americans do not. I am also retired military, so I had plenty of occasion to work with Muslims. I know quite a few Muslims casually, and know a few fairly well. I have worked with lots of Muslims, and currently work closely with a Muslim woman on a daily basis. So while obviously just anecdotal, I have never had a bad experience with a Muslim person that I thought could even remotely be attributed to their faith. In fact, I would say that the more devout Muslims have very similar values to devout Christians.
 
I have had a few Muslims around for most of my adult professional life.
Muslims living in USA working at nice professional jobs and living in nice houses and apartments are fine.
Muslims who live in more impoverished nations, or who live at the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum in some areas, may be more problematic.
One of my Muslim friends who was trying to get his wife and other family members to USA from whatever country he came from would tell us (and his congressman) in fairly graphic detail about the rot his family was experiencing from fellow Muslims in their home country.

Also, those in USA who convert to Muslim since 9/11 are often rebelling against the system or have a past criminal record, so one has to watch out for that. I’m more wary of any convert than I am of the engineering professors and doctors and even the cab drivers who emigrated here (cab driver is often sending his kids to some good school hoping they’ll become engineers and doctors).
 
I lived in a Moroccan neighborhood in Southern Spain and I lived in Morocco, a muslim country. The tension was so great for us, my reasons are described in another thread about the difficulty of practiciing christianity so I wont get into it here, but we got out through the Atlas Mountains at night just two weeks before the girls from Norway and Sweden were decapitated. Its very hard living in a muslim country or neighborhood.
 
I have to say also that it was extremely hard to get along with many muslims we met. A few were ok. My husband is probably the nicest person I have ever known and he was lied to, conned and ripped off time and time again in Morocco. I wore the full veiled, only eyes showing proper attire out of respect for the culture, and still got hate looks from the younger muslim women. Harrasment from men stopped when I donned the full covering. Its a other world, one very different from the Christian countries, or what used to be.
 
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I have to say also that it was extremely hard to get along with many muslims we met. A few were ok. My husband is probably the nicest person I have ever known and he was lied to, conned and ripped off time and time again in Morocco. I wore the full veiled, only eyes showing proper attire out of respect for the culture, and still got hate looks from the younger muslim women. Harrasment from men stopped when I donned the full covering. Its a other world, one very different from the Christian countries, or what used to be.
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I’m sorry to hear that. All I can say is that has not been my experience with Muslims either in the US or in the Mid-East.
 
I’m glad for you. Perhaps it is because we don’t live in the usa anymore and we aren’t in upper class neighborhoods. I met some really nice muslims in Denver years ago, most of them were extremely polite and very helpful. Although I didn’t get to spend a long time with them it seemed that they were very inculturated into the american society with good jobs etc. Its different in Morocco unless you are in city center Casablanca or in tourist hotels it can be very tense and dangerous. Heed the travel warnings and never go there alone.
 
I can truly sympathise and easily see why any muslim that could afford to would leave their home country. I can’t imagine living under the laws as they were in Morocco and its not strict law as in many muslim countries. We don’t drink alcohol so its not hard for us to live under the muslim laws. I dont mind not eating or drinking in the daytime near windows or outside during Ramadan. I didn’t mind at all about wearing the total coverage and total veil over my face. It was the way they treated us that was the worst, charging us more than what we would pay in europe for cheap low quality things or small apartments and it was as if we owed them when we didn’t, and that made us tense. We felt really intimidated by the way they conned us into things.
 
The man wasn’t leaving because of that. He was leaving and trying to get his family out because they were somewhat well off compared to a lot of other people in the country, and his family were threatened and robbed in a home invasion. He himself had already emigrated because one of his close relatives was in opposition to a ruling regime and thus kind of had to leave or else, and had gotten himself out and some of the family out and they were now trying to get the rest out.
 
No, I didnt mean he would leave for the reasons we would.

Its easy for me to u dstand why any muslim would want to get to america, canada or france, spain, well, europe n general. For many reasons. Our reasons were pretty much because we felt the prejudice and hatred for being non-muslims from the west.
 
The trinity is very hard to accept and a whole lot of people don’t believe in the Bible or Torah or do but think man corrupted it
 
For me, yes is the anwer, you can’t understand Him at all if not by His grace.
He is the creator of universe and (for me that is, i always tell my self) how big do you think your head will be to fit, for instance, half the knowledge about GOD? Half of the universe? (Again for me that is, hahaha)
 
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Indeed. The idea that Hollywood and Sports have gone Muslim is as off base as claims of going Satanist.
 
The Muslims were at worst no worse than Christian in their treatment of religious minorities, and often much better.
 
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charging us more than what we would pay in europe for cheap low quality things or small apartments and it was as if we owed them when we didn’t, and that
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That’s not a Muslim thing. This happens in every country. A group of tourists once raised hell when they were overcharged in Italy.

https://www.thelocal.it/20180123/venice-inquiry-japanese-tourists-overcharged-restaurant

Why are you so insistent on unnecessarily demonizing Muslims? I lived in Saudi Arabia for three years and wore a cross bracelet on my wrist, apart from a few reproaches from some conservatives (whom I quickly told to buzz off and mind their own business) nothing happened.
 
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There is a difference between a visiting tourist being overcharged by a local merchant and a Christian living in a Muslim dominated society, being charged higher prices than the local Muslim’s. The Muslim merchant has the liberty from the Islamic house to treat those different living from a non- Muslim house.

Recently in Seattle an Orthodox Priest was filling his car with gas, wearing a cross with his vestments, was approached by a man condemning him for wearing a cross and hit him and walked away. From the Video the man appeared to be a foreign national.

Fear is the great motivator for Islam to gain popularity. By Christian standards according to the scriptures; “Fear is of the devil”
 
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There is a difference between a visiting tourist being overcharged by a local merchant and a Christian living in a Muslim dominated society, being charged higher prices than the local Muslim’s. The Muslim merchant has the liberty from the Islamic house to treat those different living from a non- Muslim house.
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She didn’t say she was overcharged for not being Muslim.
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Recently in Seattle an Orthodox Priest was filling his car with gas, wearing a cross with his vestments, was approached by a man condemning him for wearing a cross and hit him and walked away. From the Video the man appeared to be a foreign national.
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And we deduce from this singular event that the massive body of Muslims behave the same?
 
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