How do Catholics explain 1 Timothy 2:5 and Hebrews 7:26?

[Sailka]

My numbers still beat yours, kinda, sorta.
The 2001 Poll says that only 57% of All self appointed ‘Catholics’ believe in Real Presence. But 74-86% of at least Once a month Mass believe in Real Presence. And 91% of Weekly or more Mass attendees Believe in Real Presence.

You eat Spicey Tacos for breakfast? I eat unsugared Raw Oats!

And, to be repetitive, our Protestant friends belief in some kinda real presence is different from ours. We do door to door Legion of Mary with everyone. Baptist belief in real presence is often because if their knowledge of Lord’s Words, not very Holy Spirit. Some think the Lord and His Words can’t be wrong. They’re correct, aklthough we Know, live Far more if the Bible, because it is our living essence with Our 7 Sacraments In it, and our sacred Liturgy from the Last Supper on.

Have a good Burrito!

 

[Jimmy_B]

Just wanted to know how you can believe in the Marian dogmas of Catholicism without it interferring dramatically with the Scriptures?

Q. Just wanted to know how you can believe in the Marian dogmas of Catholicism without it interferring dramatically with the Scriptures?

A. Context.

This one was too easy.

 

[jfallaw]

Sorry to correct you, bro Real, but SIA is correct in saying that (too many) Catholics do not believe in the Real Presence in the Eucharist: a too significant minority. There was a widelly publicized Poll a few years ago, not properly worded, that had more Lutherans than Catholics agree with the Real Presence. It was virtual tie. The problem was not only the Wording of the poll question was misleading, but many who participated were not even Catholic, or had drifted away.

I think it is more appropriate to say not that they don’t believe, but rather that they don’t know. Too many Catholics are not being trained in the faith these days. I am in RCIA (still, it’s been off-and-on again for years, for that very reason), and I honestly have not heard a single mention of the real presence or, indeed, almost any other specifically Catholic belief.

 

[CWBetts]

I think it is more appropriate to say not that they don’t believe, but rather that they don’t know. Too many Catholics are not being trained in the faith these days. I am in RCIA (still, it’s been off-and-on again for years, for that very reason), and I honestly have not heard a single mention of the real presence or, indeed, almost any other specifically Catholic belief.

I keep hearing stories like this about RCIA and I am dumbfounded.

 

[Realcatholicgk]

I keep hearing stories like this about RCIA and I am dumbfounded.

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Hi CW ,

Yet, we wonder why “catholics” don’t follow the real teachings. How they are captured by the Devil and the false denominations!
I can tell you. They don’t go to Mass! They don’t appear to do muche xcept watch TV. They probably can’t identify a book and might not even own one! That includes a bible!

God Bless **

 

[Realcatholicgk]

**How do Catholics explain 1 Timothy 2:5 and Hebrews 7:26? To a protestant, very slowly and using small words! This thread is closing soon! Had to respect the OP!

Now a “catholic” Joke::christmastree1:

A Christmas Tale

When four of Santa’s elves got sick, the trainee elves did not produce toys as fast as the regular ones, and Santa began to feel the Pre-Christmas pressure.

Then Mrs. Claus told Santa her Mother was coming to visit, which stressed Santa even more. When he went to harness the reindeer, he found that three of them were about to give birth and two others had jumped the fence and were out, only heaven knows where.

Then when he began to load the sleigh, one of the floorboards cracked, the toy bag fell to the ground and all the toys were scattered Frustrated, Santa went in the house for a cup of apple cider and a shot of rum. When he went to the cupboard, he discovered the elves had drank all the cider and hidden the liquor.

In his frustration, he accidentally dropped the cider jug, and it broke into hundreds of little glass pieces all over the kitchen floor. He went to get the broom and found the mice had eaten all the straw off the end of the broom.

Just then the doorbell rang, and irritated Santa marched to the door, yanked it open, and there stood a little angel with a great big Christmas tree.

The angel said very cheerfully, ‘Merry Christmas, Santa. Isn’t this a lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you Where would you like me to stick it?’

And so my friends began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas tree.
**

 

[Sailka]

I think it is more appropriate to say not that they don’t believe, but rather that they don’t know. Too many Catholics are not being trained in the faith these days. I am in RCIA (still, it’s been off-and-on again for years, for that very reason), and I honestly have not heard a single mention of the real presence or, indeed, almost any other specifically Catholic belief.

Your Latin is certainly great! And what the Latin words say. I certainly agree that those who don’t stringly believe in Real Presence simply don’t know.

My lifetime experience is that The Real Presence Effects/Results are obvious to see, glancing at those who just received the The Eucharist: the obvious immediate solemnity, devotion, including tough guys and boys. It is not training in what happens, but in the Results, very visible. Only known to Practising Catholics. Any glance at communicants At any traditional Mass or on EWTN Mass. Its an Experience, not a teaching, although the Reason for Real Presence should be taught: Apostolic Powers From the Lord, handed down directly through the Apostles.

 

[Sailka]

I keep hearing stories like this about RCIA and I am dumbfounded.

I’ve helped at Our RCIA for 2 years, Oustandingly done, Including the Scientific Facts and conclusions about the Shroud of Turin being proven Authentic By Scientists last 8 years.

The Results of our Traditional RCIA are very Visible: Motorbiker tatooed tough guys last year and now becoming Very devout appreciators of everything Catholic they know. One, who became Catholic because of his 2 Catholoic kids, still jokes he is trying to figure out when to kneel, when to stand. But True Catholicism is an Experience, a ‘soul event’.

But it is Receiving the Sacraments and Becoming Catholic in Easter that many describe years later as one of the most important days of their lives.

My concern is the new ‘ideas/new age’ Smiles at Communion that are the problem. None of that is Catholic. And it is New Ideas religion in the USA that is losing members, declining.

Welcome to the Catholic Church, 08 Tiber swimmer CW! What do you think now that you Are one?

 

[CWBetts]

This is going to be a long post. So get snacks now! I was raised in a non-practicing Christian household. Meaning we believed in God, celebrated Christmas and Easter, but church was not a major issue growing up. I probably want maybe a fozen times or so throughout my entire childhood. When I was twenty, I was working at a dead-end, mininum wage factory job. A new guy showed up. Matt introduced me to church. It happened to be a self described “Fundamential Independent Baptist” church. For the uninitiated, these were the major doctines:

1. Adult baptisms by immersion only, and baptism was not a requirement of salvation.
2. Catholics are evil.
3. Once a Christian is saved, they are always saved.
4. Catholics are evil.
5. “The Lords Supper” consisting of grape juice and a cracker was symbolic of the body and blood of Christ
6. Catholics are evil.
7. The Baptist faith is not Protestant, and traces its roots to John the Baptist.
8. Catholics are evil.
9. The King James Bible (or Authorized Version) is the only legitimate Bible, all other translations are corrupted.
10. Catholics are evil.

Well you get the point. Chick Publications were regularly distributed and Catholic bashing was elevated to an art form. I even started seminary at a college they allied themselves with, which included almost fanatical devotion not to God, or even a saint, but the pastor. The attitudes of hate at that college sickened me, and I left. Shortly after I left my church, which I have forgotten to mention, underwent a split, as is wont to happen in Protestant denominations. Anyways after leaving that church, I was spiritually adrift. I tried other Baptist churches, Methodist, Christian and Missionary Alliance, but I could never find “home.” In all of these denomiations, something was missing. Fast forward severla years. Tired of dead-end job after dead-end job, I returned to college. The Ohio State University. This was in March, 2005. I still had not found “home.” I was still a spiritual vagrant. My first quarter there, I was shouted down by a professor for my adherance to young-earth creationism (my views have been modified, but that is for a different thread), I met a Catholic who was not of the mainline Catholic Curch. She was a sedevacantist, and to be honest, quite scary. She rerally didn’t do a whole lot to change my still deep-seated mistrust of Catholicism. The next step in my move towards Catholicism involved, believe it or not, a vegetarian of unknown sprituality. She could have been a wiccan for all I knew, she didn’t talk about it. But she planted in my brain the idea of theatre. She was trying to get me to audition for a play, “The Good Doctor,” by Neil Simon. I used stuttering as an excuse, but the seeds were planted. The next fall (2006, for those of you who are trying to keep track of my rambling) Iactually auditioned, and was cast in a play called “Nickel and Dimed.” In this production I made some of my best friends. Among them a very quiet, somewhat quirky girl named Kaylee. Just by watching her, and listening to her, I knew she was Christian. Sometimes you can just tell. Then I found out she was Roman Catholic. I thought to myslef, “She can’t be Catholic! She acts like a Christian is supposed to act! Thats not how Catholics act!” That same time I met one of her friends, Gabe. I showed Gabe an online version of the Chick Tract “Are Roman Catholics Christian?” which he thouroughly refuted. I talked to Kaylee shortky afterward, and I visited the Most Pure Heart of Mary Parish in January 2007. I went back a couple of weeks later. I went back again. And again. And again. I had finally found it! I found the place that matched. I talked to Kaylee, and told her I wanted to become Catholic. Then the fireworks started. My parents had told me that I should start going to church, because I seemed to be happier when I went. What they meant was they wanted me to start going to a PROTESTANT church. Things were OK until I actually started RCIA. They saw I was serious. Every time I turned around, they were challenging my faith. All I can say is “Thank God for Catholic Answers” I still had my stumbling blocks, most notably the Eucharist, Confession, and the Marian Dogmas. Thanks to a truly great RCIA team (Tank you Ed, Beth, Lois, and Fr. Nick!) I became Catholic in March of 2008, with St. Thomas More as my patron saint. I have found the beauty in medatative prayers, especially the Rosary and Chaplet of Divine Mercy. I love that I have the opprtunity to be physically in the presence of my Lord and Saviour at every Mass. I love the freedom from sin granted by Penance and Reconciliation. I love the fact that Catholics don’t have to avoid certain “problematic” Scriptures. You should see the acrobatics required to explain John 6:66 and Matthew 16:18! I love recieving Jesus every Sunday! To non-Catholic reading this post, the reason we don’t explain it fully is because we CAN’T! Not because it isn’t true, but because our lanhuage is too limited to do it justice! I now, on the verge of graduation, am planning to start working on a history of the English Reformation from a Catholic perspective. I am truly blessed to have found the Church, and I am indebted to my Catholic friends to a degree that can never be repaid.

 

[Sailka]

This is going to be a long post. So get snacks now! I was raised in a non-practicing Christian household. Meaning we believed in God, celebrated Christmas and Easter, but church was not a major issue growing up. I probably want maybe a fozen times or so throughout my entire childhood. When I was twenty, I was working at a dead-end, mininum wage factory job. A new guy showed up. Matt introduced me to church. It happened to be a self described “Fundamential Independent Baptist” church. For the uninitiated, these were the major doctines:

1. Adult baptisms by immersion only, and baptism was not a requirement of salvation.
2. Catholics are evil.
3. Once a Christian is saved, they are always saved.
4. Catholics are evil.
5. “The Lords Supper” consisting of grape juice and a cracker was symbolic of the body and blood of Christ
6. Catholics are evil.
7. The Baptist faith is not Protestant, and traces its roots to John the Baptist.
8. Catholics are evil.
9. The King James Bible (or Authorized Version) is the only legitimate Bible, all other translations are corrupted.
10. Catholics are evil.

Well you get the point. Chick Publications were regularly distributed and Catholic bashing was elevated to an art form. I even started seminary at a college they allied themselves with, which included almost fanatical devotion not to God, or even a saint, but the pastor. The attitudes of hate at that college sickened me, and I left. Shortly after I left my church, which I have forgotten to mention, underwent a split, as is wont to happen in Protestant denominations. Anyways after leaving that church, I was spiritually adrift. I tried other Baptist churches, Methodist, Christian and Missionary Alliance, but I could never find “home.” In all of these denomiations, something was missing. Fast forward severla years. Tired of dead-end job after dead-end job, I returned to college. The Ohio State University. This was in March, 2005. I still had not found “home.” I was still a spiritual vagrant. My first quarter there, I was shouted down by a professor for my adherance to young-earth creationism (my views have been modified, but that is for a different thread), I met a Catholic who was not of the mainline Catholic Curch. She was a sedevacantist, and to be honest, quite scary. She rerally didn’t do a whole lot to change my still deep-seated mistrust of Catholicism. The next step in my move towards Catholicism involved, believe it or not, a vegetarian of unknown sprituality. She could have been a wiccan for all I knew, she didn’t talk about it. But she planted in my brain the idea of theatre. She was trying to get me to audition for a play, “The Good Doctor,” by Neil Simon. I used stuttering as an excuse, but the seeds were planted. The next fall (2006, for those of you who are trying to keep track of my rambling) Iactually auditioned, and was cast in a play called “Nickel and Dimed.” In this production I made some of my best friends. Among them a very quiet, somewhat quirky girl named Kaylee. Just by watching her, and listening to her, I knew she was Christian. Sometimes you can just tell. Then I found out she was Roman Catholic. I thought to myslef, “She can’t be Catholic! She acts like a Christian is supposed to act! Thats not how Catholics act!” That same time I met one of her friends, Gabe. I showed Gabe an online version of the Chick Tract “Are Roman Catholics Christian?” which he thouroughly refuted. I talked to Kaylee shortky afterward, and I visited the Most Pure Heart of Mary Parish in January 2007. I went back a couple of weeks later. I went back again. And again. And again. I had finally found it! I found the place that matched. I talked to Kaylee, and told her I wanted to become Catholic. Then the fireworks started. My parents had told me that I should start going to church, because I seemed to be happier when I went. What they meant was they wanted me to start going to a PROTESTANT church. Things were OK until I actually started RCIA. They saw I was serious. Every time I turned around, they were challenging my faith. All I can say is “Thank God for Catholic Answers” I still had my stumbling blocks, most notably the Eucharist, Confession, and the Marian Dogmas. Thanks to a truly great RCIA team (Tank you Ed, Beth, Lois, and Fr. Nick!) I became Catholic in March of 2008, with St. Thomas More as my patron saint. I have found the beauty in medatative prayers, especially the Rosary and Chaplet of Divine Mercy. I love that I have the opprtunity to be physically in the presence of my Lord and Saviour at every Mass. I love the freedom from sin granted by Penance and Reconciliation. I love the fact that Catholics don’t have to avoid certain “problematic” Scriptures. You should see the acrobatics required to explain John 6:66 and Matthew 16:18! I love recieving Jesus every Sunday! To non-Catholic reading this post, the reason we don’t explain it fully is because we CAN’T! Not because it isn’t true, but because our lanhuage is too limited to do it justice! I now, on the verge of graduation, am planning to start working on a history of the English Reformation from a Catholic perspective. I am truly blessed to have found the Church, and I am indebted to my Catholic friends to a degree that can never be repaid.

What a powerful witnessing, CW. Every next word eagerly awaited. And you explained the Real Presence better than us Cradles can. All we know is Our Lord began it at the Last Supper, and we feel the Eucharist is One of His greatest gifts to us. One of the greatest. :bible1:

The Church teaches that no Human can convert someone to The Church. Only the Holy Spirit can. We can only Live our Faith publically, as the early Martyrs did, That is how Conversions begin.

 

[jfallaw]

**How do Catholics explain 1 Timothy 2:5 and Hebrews 7:26? To a protestant, very slowly and using small words! This thread is closing soon! Had to respect the OP!

Now a “catholic” Joke::christmastree1:

A Christmas Tale **

When four of Santa’s elves got sick, the trainee elves did not produce toys as fast as the regular ones, and Santa began to feel the Pre-Christmas pressure.

Then Mrs. Claus told Santa her Mother was coming to visit, which stressed Santa even more. When he went to harness the reindeer, he found that three of them were about to give birth and two others had jumped the fence and were out, only heaven knows where.

Then when he began to load the sleigh, one of the floorboards cracked, the toy bag fell to the ground and all the toys were scattered Frustrated, Santa went in the house for a cup of apple cider and a shot of rum. When he went to the cupboard, he discovered the elves had drank all the cider and hidden the liquor.

In his frustration, he accidentally dropped the cider jug, and it broke into hundreds of little glass pieces all over the kitchen floor. He went to get the broom and found the mice had eaten all the straw off the end of the broom.

Just then the doorbell rang, and irritated Santa marched to the door, yanked it open, and there stood a little angel with a great big Christmas tree.

The angel said very cheerfully, ‘Merry Christmas, Santa. Isn’t this a lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you Where would you like me to stick it?’

And so my friends began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas tree.

Realcatholicgk, I must say I always enjoy reading your posts!

 

[jfallaw]

OK, Real, you got me started…

A priest went visiting his flock one afternoon. At every house he visited, he was welcomed inside, given a cup of tea and a snack, and talked to the parishioners for a few minutes, asking if they had any concerns and praying with each person. Finally he came to a certain house, and knocked on the door several times, but no one answered. He peeked though the window and noticed that the television was on. He called out, “Is anyone home?”, but still nobody answered, so, feeling ignored and a bit clever, he took one of his cards, wrote “Revelations 3:20- Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone will open, I will come in.” on it and stuck it in the door.

The following Sunday, a woman handed him a card with her name and the following message: “Genesis 3:10- I heard your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself.”

 

[Jimmy_B]

See, I knew that we were allowed to have some of this here -
:extrahappy:

and that we weren’t limited to this here -
:dts: :slapfight:

Now I’m going to have to stop and read some of these postsopcorn:

 

[Realcatholicgk]

See, I knew that we were allowed to have some of this here -
:extrahappy:

and that we weren’t limited to this here -
:dts: :slapfight:

Now I’m going to have to stop and read some of these postsopcorn:

**
you better hurry JimmyB this thread will be closing!

How do Catholics explain 1 Timothy 2:5 and Hebrews 7:26? Carefully.

Now for another Joke:

During the wedding rehearsal, the groom approached the pastor with an unusual offer. “Look, I’ll give you $100 if you’ll change the
wedding vows a little. When you get to me and the part where I’m to promise to ‘love, honor and obey’ and ‘forsaking all others, be faithful to her forever,’ I’d appreciate it if you’d just leave that
part out.” He passed the minister a $100 bill and walked away satisfied.

The day of the wedding came, and the bride and groom arrived at that part of the ceremony in which the vows are exchanged. When it came time for the groom’s vows, the pastor looked the
young man in the eye and said, “will you promise to prostrate yourself before her, obey her every command and wish, serve her
breakfast in bed every morning of your life and swear eternally before God and your lovely wife that you will not ever even look at another woman, as long as you both shall live?” The groom gulped and looked around, and said in a tiny voice, “Yes.” Then the groom leaned toward the pastor and hissed, “Hey, I thought we had a deal.”
The pastor put the $100 bill back into his hand and whispered back “Sorry she gave me $1,000.” **

 

[Sailka]

Hebrews 7:26 is Viewed 100% Correctly in the US Conference of Catholic Bishops New American Bible: There is Only One High Priest: Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Catholic Priests act On Behalf of Our Lord, not instead of Him. Hebrews 8:1 Is what the Catholic Church teaches About the Only High Priest. Our Lord commissioned the Apostles to act, Consecrate, Teach, Forgive on His Behalf. (‘What you bind … deny on earth … is bound…denied in heaven’; ’ …For This is my Body…This is my Blood…so This in Remembrance of Me’; etc. Our Lord placed Truth on Earth in his Apotles, His Church: 1 Timothy 3:15.

Trying to Answer the OP in this record breaking, ‘over the limit’ 1002 post on this thread, I allege am Equal Top Joker to Bro Real. Hit some of my 1009 posts. Here’s lookin atcha :whacky: :dancing: :hypno:

And am Own joker:coffeeread: :tiphat: ; I don’t research jokes to borrrow

I hear the footsteps coming down the hall, jingling keys for lockdow…

 

[Realcatholicgk]

Hebrews 7:26 is Viewed 100% Correctly in the US Conference of Catholic Bishops New American Bible: There is Only One High Priest: Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Catholic Priests act On Behalf of Our Lord, not instead of Him. Hebrews 8:1 Is what the Catholic Church teaches About the Only High Priest. Our Lord commissioned the Apostles to act, Consecrate, Teach, Forgive on His Behalf. (‘What you bind … deny on earth … is bound…denied in heaven’; ’ …For This is my Body…This is my Blood…so This in Remembrance of Me’; etc. Our Lord placed Truth on Earth in his Apotles, His Church: 1 Timothy 3:15.

Trying to Answer the OP in this record breaking, ‘over the limit’ 1002 post on this thread, I allege am Equal Top Joker to Bro Real. Hit some of my 1000 plus posts. Here’s lookin atcha :whacky: :dancing: :hypno:

And am Own joker:coffeeread: :tiphat: ; I don’t research jokes to borrrow

I hear the footsteps coming down the hall, jingling keys for locku

**
The thread the other day went to 1048 : “Why do catholics do something…”

I wanted to sneak up and look the door, you heard me again! **

 

[Sailka]

**
The thread the other day went to 1048 : “Why do catholics do something…”

I wanted to sneak up and look the door, you heard me again! **

You sure looked the door, got almost last word in. Here’s Lookin Atcha :bigyikes:

 

[Sailka]

**
The thread the other day went to 1048 :[SIGN] “Why do catholics do something…”[/SIGN]
I wanted to sneak up and look the door, you heard me again! **

Catholics didn’t did it. Only Martians and UFO’ers would.

 

[Realcatholicgk]

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[Sailka]

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