How do I know if I'm born again?

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Baptism

** What is Baptism? **
Baptism is the sacrament that gives our souls the new life of sanctifying grace by which we become children of God and heirs of heaven.
Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. **(John 3:5) **

** What sins does Baptism take away? **
Baptism takes away original sin; and also actual sin and all the punishment due to them, if the person baptized be guilty of any actual sins and truly sorry for them.
Get up and be baptized and wash away thy sins, calling on his name. **(Acts 22:16) **

** What are the effects of the character imprinted on the soul by Baptism? **
The effects of the character imprinted on the soul by Baptism are that we become members of the Church, subject to its laws, and capable of receiving other sacraments.

** Who can administer Baptism? **
The priest is the usual minister of Baptism, but if there is danger that someone will die without Baptism, anyone else may and should baptize.

** How would you give Baptism? **
I would give Baptism by pouring ordinary water on the forehead of the person to be baptized, saying while pouring it: “I baptize thee in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”

** Why is Baptism necessary for the salvation of all men? **
Baptism is necessary for the salvation of all men because Christ has said: “Unless a man be born again of water and the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
Now they who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls. **(Acts 2:41) **

** How can those be saved who through no fault of their own have not received the sacrament of Baptism**?
Those who through no fault of their own have not received the sacrament of Baptism can be saved through what is called baptism of blood or baptism of desire.

** How does an unbaptized person receive the baptism of blood? **
An unbaptized person receives the baptism of blood when he suffers martyrdom for the faith of Christ.
Greater love than this no one has, that one lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13)

**How does an unbaptized person receive the baptism of desire? **
An unbaptized person receives the baptism of desire when he loves God above all things and desires to do all that is necessary for his salvation.
If anyone love me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our abode with him. (John 14:23)

** When should children be baptized? **
Children should be baptized as soon as possible after birth.

** What sin do Catholic parents commit who put off for a long time, or entirely neglect, the Baptism of their children? **
Catholic parents who put off for a long time, or entirely neglect, the Baptism of their children, commit a mortal sin.

** What do we promise through our godparents in Baptism? **
We promise through our godparents in Baptism to renounce the devil and to live according to the teachings of Christ and of His Church.

** Why is the name of a saint given in Baptism? **
The name of a saint is given in Baptism in order that the person baptized may imitate his virtues and have him for a protector.

**What is the duty of a godparent after Baptism? **
The duty of a godparent after Baptism is to see that the child is brought up a good Catholic, if this is not done by the parents.

**Who should be chosen as godparents for Baptism? **
Only Catholics who know their faith and live up to the duties of their religion should be chosen as godparents for Baptism.
 
HailMary said:
Where does it say faith ALONE?

Why do you put words there that are not there?
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Because it says that we are saved by grace through faith. It doesn’t meantion anything else but faith. So from this passage how does it say that we are saved?

By grace through what? FAITH

Why would it say that we are saved by FAITH if baptism saves? If baptism is so important to salvation, why does the majority of the salvation verses fail to even meantion baptism but only meantions faith in Christ Jesus?
 
Church_Militant said:
Perhaps your prayer for his conversion to your personal interpretation of what salvation is should be more like Our Lord’s own.

“Saying: Father, … but yet not my will, but thine be done.”

If you believe that Catholicism is not Christian, then you have a mistaken belief. Try encouraging your husband in his Catholic faith and see what happens. Aren’t you supposed to be in submission to him as spiritual head of your household?
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Submission until the husband goes against God’s word. Being catholic is not part of her submission requirement. If she believes that the catholic church teaches false teachings, which they do, she doesn’t have to go along with her husbands beliefs.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Because it says that we are saved by grace through faith. It doesn’t meantion anything else but faith. So from this passage how does it say that we are saved?

By grace through what? FAITH

Why would it say that we are saved by FAITH if baptism saves? If baptism is so important to salvation, why does the majority of the salvation verses fail to even meantion baptism but only meantions faith in Christ Jesus?
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So do you believe that an infant or child who dies goes to hell? After all, they cannot have faith according to your definition.
 
misslollipops—

I’m sorry you were not properly catechized as a child.

Neither was I.

So I understand the confusion and the misunderstandings.

It is good that you ask lots of questions, that is how I learned.

May the Lord be with you on your journey.
 
If you don’t know ask the church

**1 Timothy 3:15 **

15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

The church is where we find the truth.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Because it says that we are saved by grace through faith. It doesn’t meantion anything else but faith. So from this passage how does it say that we are saved?

By grace through what? FAITH

Why would it say that we are saved by FAITH if baptism saves? If baptism is so important to salvation, why does the majority of the salvation verses fail to even meantion baptism but only meantions faith in Christ Jesus?
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What is it with Smorgasbord Christians who tend to pick and choose teachings that feel right and fit their recent tradition of how to interpret Scripture in a particular way in order to refute almost 2000 years of Catholic interpretation.

You would think it would be possible for them to actually READ the Bible instead of jumping all over like a flea in a fit, grabbing a verse here and another verse there and trying so hard to fit it to their new way of thinking.

Thank God I don’t have to re-invent the wheel, I can just read the Bible with the help of the ECF, those closest to Jesus and the Apostles and find out how it was interpreted by the earliest Christians… the ones who WROTE the NT, who formed the CATHOLIC CHURCH. :banghead:
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Submission until the husband goes against God’s word. Being catholic is not part of her submission requirement.
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That is not what every NON-CATHOLIC Biblical submission teaching I have ever heard said.
If she believes that the catholic church teaches false teachings, which they do
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, she doesn’t have to go along with her husbands beliefs.Y’know…you have a thread where you are supposed to be offrering your evidence for this allegation. So far you haven’t offered a single scrap of that evidence.

Here: here’s the link… Bring it on!
SPLIT: The Catholic Church thinks they are the true church, yet teaches so many heresies.
 
fellowChristian said:
misslollipops—

I’m sorry you were not properly catechized as a child.

Neither was I.

So I understand the confusion and the misunderstandings.

It is good that you ask lots of questions, that is how I learned.

May the Lord be with you on your journey.
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I know the feeling…but the fact is that I wasn’t paying attention…not that they weren’t preaching and teaching the faith to me.🤷
 
All I remember was “Jesus loves you”
Which is true.
I just needed more specifics.

I teach CCD and Youth Group
and it is still alot of “Jesus loves you” in CCD.
In Youth Group it is “Good answer,heres a candy.”

I bring the apologetics into the classes.
And explain why Catholics do that.
I try to bring it down to the level they can understand.
I have 5 children and from my 17 year old to my 7 year old they understand
All 7 Sacraments and the 10 Commandments.
Because I ask the questions they sometimes can’t ask.
Do you know why we do this or that? Then they say no and I explain.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Because it says that we are saved by grace through faith. It doesn’t meantion anything else but faith. So from this passage how does it say that we are saved?

By grace through what? FAITH

Why would it say that we are saved by FAITH if baptism saves? If baptism is so important to salvation, why does the majority of the salvation verses fail to even meantion baptism but only meantions faith in Christ Jesus?
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James 2

Faith and Works

14 What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him?

15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food,

16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that?

17 Even so** faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself. **

18 But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.”

19 You believe that God is one You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.

20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?

21 Was not **Abraham our father justified by works **when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar?

22 You see that faith was working with his works, and **as a result of the works, faith was perfected; **

23 and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God.

24 You see **that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. **

25 In the same way, was not **Rahab the harlot also justified by works **when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way?

26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also **faith without works is dead. **

Baptism is a work.:rolleyes:
 
James 2
19 You believe that God is one You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.

So are the demons saved? They believe.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
No, this is accomplished by the Holy Spirit.
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Hello … here is some money :twocents: , buy a clue. 😃
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It is accomplished by the Holy Spirit, through baptism.**

Ezekiel 36:25-27
I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. A new heart I will give you, and a new spirit I will put within you; and I will take out of your flesh the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to observe my ordinances

Do you believe that this passage is foreshadowing baptism?
What spirit is it speaking of which will cause us to walk in God’s statutes and help us observe His ordinances?

John 1:11-13
He came to what was his own, but his own people did not accept him. But to those who did accept him he gave power to become children of God, to those who believe in his name, who were born not by natural generation nor by human choice nor by a man’s decision but of God

What “Power” do you believe that we are given to become children of God when we are born of God.

John 2:23-25
While he was in Jerusalem for the feast of Passover, many began to believe in his name when they saw the signs he was doing. But Jesus would not trust himself to them because he knew them all, and did not need anyone to testify about human nature. He himself understood it well

Why won’t Jesus trust himself to them when they see the signs He is doing?

John 3:1-5
Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicode’mus, a ruler of the Jews.This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that you do, unless God is with him.”
Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicode’mus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

Why did Jesus tell Nicodemus that he had to be born again after NIcodemus saw the signs that Jesus was performing?
Could this passage be referring to the previous passage I posted?
Why did Jesus say that we must be born of water and spirit to enter the kingdom of God, instead of just born of spirit, didn’t he know that we must be born of women first, maybe he was just reminding us of that fact?
Is Jesus telling us that we can’t enter the kingdom of God if we were born by a cesarean section before the water of our mother broke?

I will tell you what I believe what these passages are teaching us:
We must be baptized and recive the Holy Spirt through that baptism to give us the power that is needed to be cleased of our sins, and to be able to follow Jesus and his commands. We can not do this on our own power. I would say that it is the graces we recieve though baptism that makes it possible for Jesus to trust himself to us, we can’t do it on our own human power, we need a supernatural power.
Baptism isn’t something we are doing on our own, it is a sacrament that Jesus gave us so that he could bestow his grace upon us. It is the vehicle in which we are born again.
I know that you won’t accept this, but it makes the most sense to me.
 
If you suddenly find yourself surrounded by wetness and darkness and then seeing light, then you will indeed know you are born again, however your mum may not be quite as happy this time around.
 
misslollipops said:
It is a good example. Thanks
Jesus was offered to God as an infant lk2:22-24
But when did the Holy Spirit descend on Him?
Lk3:21-22 as an adult
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Surely you are not suggesting that Jeus’s baptism was sacramental?

Similarly i hope you are not suggesting that Holy Spirit EVER descended on him. That kinda rejects the Trinity doesnt it?
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Submission until the husband goes against God’s word. Being catholic is not part of her submission requirement. If she believes that the catholic church teaches false teachings, which they do, she doesn’t have to go along with her husbands beliefs.[/QUOTEW

Which false teaching is that? The hypostatic union , perhaps the Trinity? "“Condemnant quod intellegunt”
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😃
 
estesbob said:
Surely you are not suggesting that Jeus’s baptism was sacramental?

Similarly i hope you are not suggesting that Holy Spirit EVER descended on him. That kinda rejects the Trinity doesnt it?
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I don’t follow. You’re correct that John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance, not an actual Trinitarian sacramental baptism. But the Holy Spirit did descend upon Jesus at that time. “And when he came up out of the water, immediately he saw the heavens opened and the Spirit descending upon him like a dove, and a voice came from heaven, ‘You are my beloved Son, with you I am well pleased.’” Mark1:10.
 
Gamera said:
I don’t follow. You’re correct that John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance, not an actual Trinitarian sacramental baptism. But the Holy Spirit did descend upon Jesus at that time. “And when he came up out of the water, immediately he saw the heavens opened and the Spirit descending upon him like a dove, and a voice came from heaven, ‘You are my beloved Son, with you I am well pleased.’” Mark1:10.
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Literally the Spirit did descend but not to the same sense that the Spirit descencded on the Apostles at the Pentecost.or myself at confirmation/ Jesus WAS(is) the Spirit-he had no need for it to “descend” on him in the Spiritual sense.
 
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