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That is a V-E-R-Y narrow explanation!
}Everything that he has ever done, both good and evil.![]()
That is a V-E-R-Y narrow explanation!
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]If i may also addâŚ
Christ ascended into heaven in the flesh so He is in heaven completelyâŚWith the Eucharist one recieves all of Christ dwelling within themslevesâŚWhy settle for less then the full truth?
]I am a Christian by virtue of my baptism into the hope of Christâs resurrection.
Absolutely NOT!
I would never ever ever claim that I am a better Christian than you.
However, Christ gave us His Church to provide us with His Grace in order to be fully united to Him. There is no closer way to unite with Him than being ONE FLESH. He and I are ONE when we are joined in the Eucharist. We have the Mass, the Eucharist, the communion of saints, the 7 sacraments, the Scriptures, the Magisterium, Mary our Mother, the sublime and profound writings of the Doctors of the Church as well as the simple but eloquent lives of peasants and farmgirls who martyred their lives for Christ as our example.
How magnificent is the Body of Christ!! I invite you, 1beleevr, to come join us at this Banquet!
]No, not at all. When you accept Jesus Christ into your heart, all of the Saints and Angels come with Him.
Why are you looking for the minimum possible requirement? Your prayers to him are âsufficientâ of course, but He Himself has also commanded us to love one another as He has loved us - and surely the Saints are among those whom we are required to love?
And yet we canât find unity.]
Thanks for the invite; but it is not necessaryBecause you see, just as Mephibosheth was invited to eat at the table of King David, I was invited some years ago to eat at our Kingâs table, the Table of Grace! But this will pale in comparison to the coming WEdding Feast, when our Bridegroom returns to claim US, His Bride! And you are right, the Body of Christ is truly a joyful and magnificent place to be!
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]And yet we canât find unity.
:grouphug:
I think that saying it really doesnât matter what you believe, as long as you belong to Christ, is quite dangerous.]
The biggest stumbling block to unity among Christians, is the same thing that prevents us from being humble: P-R-I-D-E! Notice what the middle letter is in this word! Personally, just because I am a non-denominational Christian, does not mean that I want everyone to be non denom. But when someone defends their religion, rather than the Cross, there seems to be a disconnect! People from different religions have come knocking on my door; and I finally asked them,âAre you more interested in me joining your church/religion, or sharing the Gospel with me?â They generally leave shortly thereafter! The one who asked me what I was doing, I said,âSharing the truth, with you!â
Isnât this where this train picked me up, 2 weeks ago?I think that saying it really doesnât matter what you believe, as long as you belong to Christ, is quite dangerous.
It is a kind of moral relativismâalbeit, narrower than the atheistic equivalent of âit doesnât matter what you believe as long as youâre goodâ.
Itâs still relativism.
Only two weeks? It usually takes us a whole month to come back around to the starting place again.Isnât this where this train picked me up, 2 weeks ago?
You are SO right! It has been a month! How time flies!Only two weeks? It usually takes us a whole month to come back around to the starting place again.
Unofficial theme song of CAF: - Round and round and round we go, where weâll stop, nobody knows!![]()
]I think that saying it really doesnât matter what you believe, as long as you belong to Christ, is quite dangerous.
It is a kind of moral relativismâalbeit, narrower than the atheistic equivalent of âit doesnât matter what you believe as long as youâre goodâ.
Itâs still relativism.
I think what youâre saying is, really, âdifferent strokes for different folksâ, as long as itâs Christian strokes, right?Not sure that I completely understand what you mean here! I, personally have never advocated the idea that it doesnât matter what you believe as long as you belong to Jesus!But, I do raise an eyebrow, when someone tries to add, or subtract something from the Gospel, or rebuke me for not believing as they do! Just like, I have NEVER put anyone down for going to a priest for confession; merely saying that I myself do not feel the need!
]I think what youâre saying is, really, âdifferent strokes for different folksâ, as long as itâs Christian strokes, right?
If Iâve misinterpreted your position, I apologize.
What? It closes at 1,000?As this thread races towards 1000 posts, and subsequent closure, I was wondering,âHow many catholics or other religions really care how nondenominational Christians pick a church!â!I mean, think about it; could we have said,âWhy do people convert to catholicism, or how do they decide which parish to attend?â Everyoneâs walk with Christ, including the church they decide to attend, is a personal thing, between them and their God!
Iâd like to see it sooner, but you are right, I can at least expect it here.]There will be complete unity, when we stand together on Heavenâs shore! No religious titles, no division, just saints, worshipping our Lord!
What youâre saying, though, is really only about Christians, right?]
Not necessarily, but like many other aspects of our humanity, we tend to be products of our upbringing, and influenced by mentors, parents, teachers, and assorted others, who seem at the time to be wiser than us! Everyone believes what they believe for a reason, and we do not have the right to tell anyone, how to live, where to work, or what to believe! Itâs like last night at the homeless shelter; my wife and I were witnessing to, feeding and praying for people from various backgrounds, ages, and yes, religious beliefsWe just come from a position of Truth, address their needs, and give them comfort, encouragement and hope; no doctrinal discussions or debates! Letâs face it, most if not al of us will go to our graves believing the wa we do today! There will be complete unity, when we stand together on Heavenâs shore! No religious titles, no division, just saints, worshipping our Lord!
]What youâre saying, though, is really only about Christians, right?
I mean, you really donât think that a Mormon is ok believing what he believes, correct?
]What? It closes at 1,000?
As to the question, I think most denominations fear the win-loss ratio. Someone moving from their faith into a ânondenomâ would be a L.
Not for Christ, though!
Iâd like to see it sooner, but you are right, I can at least expect it here.
No it doesnât if it does guess I am a bad woman!]
If you mean as far as believing what they believe; no, I donât think we can narrow it down to just Christians! Why do people believe in ghosts, or that the sun rised in the east, and sets in the west? Because they have seen it! As far as Mormons are concerned, I learned a lot about what they believed in or didnât believe in over thirty years ago, when I briefly dated a Mormon girl, and eventually went to church with her for awhile. The way I see it, whether a person is okay or not believing what they believe, once again goes to their upbringing and teaching! If instilled in someone at a early enough age, some things never leave them! As Christians, I believe that we are charged with spreading the Gospel of Truth
(Matthew 28:19-20), planting seeds of hope and encouragement, and letting the Holy Spirit fertilize them! I have met and worked with converts from many religions(even former catholics) who have all said, that they saw the Light, the Light of Truth! So, what do you propose we do? Round up all those who donât believe as we do, and whip them into submission? I mean, I donât believe in going to a priest for confession; does this make me a bad man?
Well I love the both of you!]
You are so right, my brother in Christ!:thumbsup:To me, the only loss for Christ, is if one turns away, denounces God and abandons his salvation, turning to Satan! I mean does anyone really believe that God cares what denomination you espouse? Was not the church that Jesus(The Rock) established, done so for all? That includes you and me XavierLives! Salvation was not only meant for the Jews, but us Gentiles too!:thumbsup:It is sad that although we hope and pray for unity in the Body of Christ, pride and free will always prevent us from laying aside our diferences and loving and accepting one another!