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CopticChristian
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Jopala,
I kind of feel like writing…
gee dad where did I miss this point. Enough is enough. I have missed me. But what is you are really trying to say?
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I kind of feel like writing…
gee dad where did I miss this point. Enough is enough. I have missed me. But what is you are really trying to say?
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LEMAITRE
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I agree with you on the highlighted and underlined statement above. Everything else is
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CopticChristian
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Po,
I put it through the Jive Translator…does this work for ya…
My. Slap mah fro!..my. Slap mah fro!..my. Slap mah fro!..my. Slap mah fro! Beloved… Such learned bein’s. Has reason become yo’ Lo’d. Tell me do ya’ honestly recon’ dat eida’ of ya’ know de mind uh our Heavenly Fader. Ah be baaad… You’s gots’ ax’ed drough reason and grown t’gots’ become whut? ah’ admire yo’ dedicashun t’searchin’ out trud and know dat ya’ are senio’ amongst yo’ peers, but fo’give me beloved t’whut end. Does not da darn same fate await ya’. You’s gots’ spent yo’ ya’d pursuin’ trud and sho’ nuffly ya’ gots’ found it and it gots’ta consumed who ya’ are. What it is, Mama! Tell me whut ya’ now gots’ become? How much trud gots’ta it snatch fo’ ya’ t’say enough… dis be sufficient fo’ me. What it is, Mama! ah’ find it ironic dat God gave da darn wealdy dude an abunboogy yet not da darn powa’ to enjoy it. Are ya’ likes unto dis man. ‘S coo’, bro. Does no one miss ya’? Do ya’ not even miss ya’? ENOUGH already. Slap mah fro! It be true dat God created dude downright and dat dude has sought out many devices. And ya’ are plum as guilty as ah’ and fo’ de same reason. ‘S coo’, bro. De day gots’ta mosey on down fo’ ya’ t’set aside vanity and opuh’te on faid alone o’ you is not yet convinced? ah’ speak not fo’ mah’self but fo’ ya’. Humbly ah’ ax’ ya’ t’now set reason aside and try t’walk ‘slusively by faid. Perhaps ya’ gots’ta find da darn peace dat gots’ta eluded ya’ fo’ so’s long. ah’ say dese wahtahmelluns t’ya’ not out uh pompous self-righteousness but out uh concern fo’ ya’. Dere be no end t’discernment unless ya’ end it and walk by faid. Den peace gots’ta come t’ya’ and joy as shoooit. ah’ believe dat yo’ homeys and family gots’ta finally be glad t’get ya’ back afta’ all uh dese years and trust me. What it is, Mama!.. You’s gots’ta be glad t’get back into de land uh de livin’. Amen
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RebeccaJ
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I followed God’s love, and somehow an atheist ended up loving God. Love then, is how God’s Truth is manifest to me.
[BIBLEDRB]Romans 8:28-39[/BIBLEDRB]
po18guy
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And, one’s reassurance of this is that Christ founded a Church, giving it all authority. That Church traces both back and forward in an unbroken line of apostolic succession. The very possibility of any such “great apostosy” is absolutely destroyed by the very words of Christ.
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RebeccaJ
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Yes, there has to be assurances of reason that go with love, otherwise, I would not be able to trust it.
God is Merciful, and provides us with signs of His love and mercy. Christ’s Church, is one of those signs.meltzerboy
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As you probably know, Jews believe only in the divine word of The Hebrew Bible (what Christians call The Old Testament), particularly the Torah (Pentateuch). They do not believe in the divinity of The New Testament (Gospels), The Book of Mormon, the Qur’an or any other holy book. This is in part because of what the Torah itself says with regard to its being the definitive word of G-d, the Eternal Covenant, not to be added to or detracted from by any future generation of men or prophets even if they should perform miracles. For Jews, The Hebrew Bible is a done deal regarding what G-d expects of us. For Orthodox Jews, in particular, the Talmud (Oral Law) accompanies the Torah (Written Law) and serves largely to clarify the teachings of the Torah. The Kabbalah, however, is not divine in nature but is studied and used by some Orthodox Jews (Hassidim, especially) to further interpret the meaning of the Torah.
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Chrish1975
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Joseph Smith and his buddies made up the book of Mormon and all the other books they wrote. Yes, I have read them and they are not true to me. How anyone can fall for them is beyond me, but people will believe just about anything.
po18guy
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Back at the OP: Since the BoM is so new, how does he know that it is the word of God? Jim Jones had lots of followers. Was he telling the truth?Joseph Smith and his buddies made up the book of Mormon and all the other books they wrote. Yes, I have read them and they are not true to me. How anyone can fall for them is beyond me, but people will believe just about anything.
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aragonjohn1
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jopala
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Obviously, I have offended some and for this I am truly sorry. I was in the army when Woodstock occurred; however, I would have probably enjoyed the experience. I am a Christian Spiritualist (Gnostic). I believe that Jesus was given to us by the Father as the earthly personification of himself. I believe that when one knows Jesus he knows our Father. I believe that good and evil indwells all even the most self righteous amongst us. I believe that all of us sin on a daily basis and that Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. What am I trying to say: Jesus wept!
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504Katrin
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Because, there were thousands of eye witnesses when Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the Torah.
Oh and, I’ve watched a documentary on some folks, called Knights Templars, and they’re supposed to have the tablets.
Oh and, I’ve watched a documentary on some folks, called Knights Templars, and they’re supposed to have the tablets.
po18guy
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Much clearer. But, special knowledge is not necessary - only a humble heart which seeks the truth.
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Patrick1540
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Because everything in is True and even back up by science, not just history. Mankind in all it’s wisdom,wealth and knowledge even if they came together and tried, can’t produce one blade of grass,that reproduces. All of Creation proves the Bible is the Word of God.
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504Katrin
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The others’ responses were fun, but I think some fun is okay on a message board since people were only messing with you
And I liked your post, too. I enjoyed reading it in regards to contents and your style I also think I know what you mean. BUT…I have to disagree
I don’t think that faith is enough. The more you learn the more you fall in love imo. But maybe that’s just me. The more often I read King Davids’ Psalms the more I love him
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Porknpie
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Jopola,
Welcome. Do you have any questions?
Do you have any affiliation to Jabba? Only thing you can’t say on this forum is that you are from the Land of Jerusalem. This should make you laugh. If not, something is wrong.
m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=OPcod8IS214&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DOPcod8IS214
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AD70
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I guess the real question is whether the church defines the bible or the bible defines the church. 
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Fatboys
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You need to explain this more
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CopticChristian
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AD,I guess the real question is whether the church defines the bible or the bible defines the church.
This is the wrong question.
The Bible says that the Church is the mystery hidden for all ages. The OT was written some time after creation…the Bible nowhere says that the Bible was the mystery hidden for all ages. The letter to Romans says “for to you were given the utterances of Scripture”, ie the OT…and the Church having been hidden, produced the NT.
The OT did not define the people of God, nor did the Mystery hidden for all ages…Old T…E…S…T…A…M…E…N…T. Testament, New…T…E…S…T…A…M…E…N…T…Testament…the answer is in the title…Testament…not definition…
Rethink this.
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AD70
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Wow. That caught me off guard. You almost got me there. However, I would have to respectfully disagree.
Yes, the church is the mystery hidden for all ages - therefore the church has always been a part of God’s eternal purpose. I agree. But the word of God is also eternal, and it was by this very word that God decreed (purposed) that He would even have a church.
Now you do have a point to say that the Scriptures were not written until “some time after creation.” I agree. But I would remind you that the written word is only a MANIFESTATION (making known) of that eternal word and decree of God. But the same is true of the church. For although the church was hidden in God for all ages, it was still not MANIFEST(made known) until sometime after creation - and even after scripture.
The obvious proof for this is that the apostle Paul had to write letters to local congregations to correct them and inform them of the mystery of the church. The mystery of the church was revealed to the apostles, but until the mystery was written and explained through Scripture, the mystery would remain a mystery to everyone else.
“For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles, assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, and how the MYSTERY was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. WHEN YOU READ THIS, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND MY KNOWLEDGE OF THE MYSTERY, which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. AND THIS MYSTERY IS THAT the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.” (Ephesians 3:1-6).
Clearly therefore, the apostle Paul, in large measure, DEFINED the church through his WRITTEN epistles (Scripture).
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