How has the Pennsylvania scandal affected you personally?

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In my case my mother was what one would call ‘over protective’, but this came only after her three children were molested in a variety of ways. Before we were hurt, she trusted other adults with us and had the same attitude you do. None of her kids will make the same mistake.
I don’t want to go off thread, but I will quickly answer this by explaining what I mean when I say “over-protective.” I don’t see things the way your mom does. “Over-protective” to me means doing what the some of these bishops did wrongly, by not acknowledging the truth of the evil that was occurring. It’s important to acknowledge evil and teach what it is to children, in an appropriate manner, so that they will recognize it when they see it.
 
If your primary catechesis is by priests, and your faith life is tied up in your parish (as it was for many pious Catholics in generations past) it’s easy to begin to think that you’re being sold a bill of goods.

There are people who seriously (though erroneously) think the Church exists to facilitate and pay for the hedonistic lives of the clergy. And at times, some of those people have been clergy.
 
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Ah, I see. Yeah. I think we absolutely should inform kids. Keeping them in a bubble where life is perfect is not kind or good.
 
How can you say that? How are sex offenders and pedophiles getting transferred or promoted elsewhere
 
Well…

I know for a fact it happens in dentistry (I had a dentist who hopped from town to town assaulting women).

In the psychiatric field there was an epidemic in the 70s of them covering up for each other.

It’s just it isn’t as closely monitored or watched by the media so we know less about it.
 
Public school teachers don’t claim moral and spiritual authority. And I say that as one who has a jaundiced view of public schools and teachers’ unions.
 
Not really. Public school teachers get turned over to the police and get charged by the state.
 
Saying “oh it happened in the past or it’s a small percentage of priests” is missing the point entirely.
 
This. All the deflection has gotten tiresome, defending the indefensible.
 
I mean, I watch bravo…with my wife totally not gay you guys for real seriously okay
 
I doubt that the two diocese in PA are isolated incidents.

Reading that report (I haven’t) is like seeing a slaughterhouse for the first time. Or seeing a mangled dead body for the first time. Bishops are probably well aware of the crimes due to the nature of their job. Just as other professionals are aware of not so nice things because of their jobs.

Now we get a peak behind the curtain and everyone is gasping for breath. For me it’s not the crimes that are shocking, but it’s the cover ups, the reassignments, and the hypocrisy of the gay clerical culture that are somewhat surprising.
I don’t think it was a gay clerical culture. I think it was the same “culture” that leads women to cover up sexual abuse committed by their husbands, sons, and grandfathers–which, considering that it was abuse against their grandchildren, nieces and nephews and even their own children is practically impossible to believe. Yet we know that also happens. I think some of us here are old enough to remember when we found out how prevalent child sexual abuse was in the domestic church and within extended families in the world at large. It is a gut-punch every time one hears about it, but at some point it stops being a surprise. People do not want to admit their family (or their priests) aren’t exemplars of normalcy or even virtue. They don’t want people to think what people will think when these things become known. They go into denial, they cover for the perpetrator instead of defending the victim and future would-be victims, and in doing so they re-abuse the trust of the victim, sometimes on a worse level than the first offense.

For some reason, people who would never re-hire a thief to be a cashier will still convince themselves to believe that returning someone who has abused a position of trust back to another position of trust is an expression of a belief in the power of amendment of life. I don’t know why. I can’t believe they’d say that stealing money is worse than committing sex abuse or rape.

This goes to show, however, that the policies that were put into place after the Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People will always be needed and must always be vigilantly enforced. We can never allow ourselves to get complacent, to believe that 'it can’t happen here" or “that person couldn’t do such a thing.” You can’t tell by looking at people who would do such a thing. You have to deny opportunities.

Remember that when it comes time to do your parish sex-abuse-prevention training again. Don’t complain. Don’t bend the rules. Don’t hesitate to report what you have been taught to report. Be eager to help prevent the sexual abuse of children in any way you can.
 
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I don’t know why the catholic church doesn’t go to the authorities for every case so that the state can decide whether it wants to prosecute or not. The Church talks a great deal about respecting the laws of the land but in cases like these she doesn’t seem to follow through
 
I’d like to use this opportunity, too, to encourage Catholics to strongly advocate for real and active sex-abuse prevention policies in all organizations and activities that serve children and young people.

If your local youth sports programs do not have sex-abuse prevention strategies in place, advocate for them. The word is not getting out there nearly fast enough.
 
In some cases (such as Robert Finn, former bishop of Kansas City, MO), they tried to be a detective and handle it themselves instead of going to the authorities. In Finn’s case (a priest, Fr. Shawn Ratigan, was found to have CP on his computer), he responded promptly but improperly. All the same, Finn was driven out of town for it.
 
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