How many Catholics are being put off by the new Mass translation?

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I really like the new translation of Holy Mass.
A lot of people cant seem to catch on yet. Its only been two weeks and I have it down. But I do stumble over the creed now.
I think by Christmas the people attend Mass on a normal basis will have it down but come Easter Sunday those people who only show up for Christmas and Easter are gonna be so confused. :rolleyes:
 
bcra said:
my only complaint is that they took away all reading prayer books so i cannot read the words of the bible therefore its discrimating against seniors who have a hard time hearing therefore i do not know what the priest is saying before i could follow the gospital every day now i have no idea what todays gospital is since i cannot read it (no books are in our church ):crossrc::blessyou::confused:
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You could always pick up a personal missal from a Catholic bookstore or an online source. There is also Magnificat Magazine.
 
bcra said:
my only complaint is that they took away all reading prayer books so i cannot read the words of the bible therefore its discrimating against seniors who have a hard time hearing therefore i do not know what the priest is saying before i could follow the gospital every day now i have no idea what todays gospital is since i cannot read it (no books are in our church ):crossrc::blessyou::confused:
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bcra, there is a similar problem here. The priest has insisted that we do not need missalettes because we are to focus simply on listening alone. I don’t like it at all, because when each reading is announced, the verses aren’t mentioned. If I had a missalette, I could take note of the verses, and look them up later at home for further meditation.

Also, I prefer to read along, damnable as it seems.😉 Sometimes I can’t make out what the lector is saying, and sometimes the words are so mispronounced that it changes the meaning!
 
opus101 said:
Also, I prefer to read along, damnable as it seems.😉 Sometimes I can’t make out what the lector is saying, and sometimes the words are so mispronounced that it changes the meaning!
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I agree. Too many homophones in English and too many proper names in the readings.
 
Personally I love the new wording. It is beautiful and reflects what the Greek/Hebrew/Latin really says. We had a lot of help in our parish and a couple of meetings with the explanations as to why this was done.

I haven’t heard anyone in my parish complaining. I am almost 70, telling you this because the posters seem to say the older folks don’t like the new translations. Perhaps they haven’t been catechized properly–or choose not to be.

I went through the Latin to English–which originally I didn’t like. But I love the Engish and we still do a bit of Latin.
 
opus101 said:
bcra, there is a similar problem here. The priest has insisted that we do not need missalettes because we are to focus simply on listening alone. I don’t like it at all, because when each reading is announced, the verses aren’t mentioned. If I had a missalette, I could take note of the verses, and look them up later at home for further meditation.

Also, I prefer to read along, damnable as it seems.😉 Sometimes I can’t make out what the lector is saying, and sometimes the words are so mispronounced that it changes the meaning!
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Simply look up and read the readings in advance.
They are easily available with a simple google search. Or, purchase a sunday or weekday missal (both currently available online with the new translation.)
 
drforjc said:
Simply look up and read the readings in advance.
They are easily available with a simple google search. Or, purchase a sunday or weekday missal (both currently available online with the new translation.)
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I’ve ordered a missal. Can’t wait to get it!
 
Rence said:
I hate it and it takes away from the experience for me, and my friends hate it, but what can we do? It’s not like the Church is a democracy or anything 🤷
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How does it take way from the experience? if you look at a missil that is in latin on the english side it translates with and with thy spirit so it is a much better translation of the Latin.
 
opus101 said:
bcra, there is a similar problem here. The priest has insisted that we do not need missalettes because we are to focus simply on listening alone. I don’t like it at all, because when each reading is announced, the verses aren’t mentioned. If I had a missalette, I could take note of the verses, and look them up later at home for further meditation.

Also, I prefer to read along, damnable as it seems.😉 Sometimes I can’t make out what the lector is saying, and sometimes the words are so mispronounced that it changes the meaning!
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Opus101, maybe you could send your Priest this link:ncregister.com/blog/seven-reasons-to-own-your-own-missal/

Just sayin.😉
 
Garyjohn2 said:
I really like the changes. I’m 28. Maybe it’s just the way they were presented to us by our pastor and other documents, but it seems to make more sense and is more meaningful with the new translation.

However, I’m not a fan of the music. Some of the music had to be changed to match the new words (gloria. holy holy holy) and the new tunes seem kind of awkward. Maybe its just because the old ones are really catchy to me from hearing them so many times…but I think in time better melodies will be written, or I’ll get used to these.

The funniest part is when the priest says “the lord be with you” I can distinctly hear about half of the people saying “and with your spirit” and the other half absent-mindedly saying “and also with you” and they both get jumbled together in to a big mess of “andalsowithspirityourspirit.” hahahaha. 😃 If nothing else, it will get people to stop and think about what is being said. 🙂
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I have a similar reaction. I love the translation and especially appreciate the care that the parish & the Archdiocese took to prepare us for the changes. But I don’t like the music. I have tried to appreciate chant, but it is like screeching chalk to me. “Un-sing-able” The music is so bad at my parish that I go to the “quiet” Mass whenever possible. I miss the contemporary choir.
 
Rence said:
I hate it and it takes away from the experience for me, and my friends hate it, but what can we do? It’s not like the Church is a democracy or anything 🤷
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fall fox

Hate it?? The new translation hasn’t even smoothed out yet. Folks are still saying
“and also with you”, “and also with your spirit”, and lastly “and with your spirit”,
all blended together. We’ll get it eventually. Try to imagine going from “Latin” to English.
Takes away from your experience? The words the Priest is saying are much deeper in Faith than they were.
 
I love it. Because the Church said it must be done. And if attending Mass means I must change then so be it.
It is funny watching the expression on our Priests face as half the congregation gets it right and the other half don’t. He smiles and continues and we have the little prayer cards and Father tells everyone when to look at it and that is the funny part they still mess it up. But, we are getting there and it seems the older generation likes it better. I am post VII so I know no other Mass as the one that just changed. Which is fine, I enjoyed it for forty years and God willing I will enjoy the new translation another forty.
 
At least people may stop using that silly hand gesture that accompanied “And also with you.”
 
It seems to be going well in our church. I am 30 and a recent-ish convert. My husband (cradle and a very devoted altar boy when younger) is a little sad about it, but not really. We both agree that the new missal is more reverent. It is much more easy learning these small changes than it was learning it all from scratch when I first started to attend mass.
 
ProVobis said:
. And what about those who aren’t especially fluent in English? Imagine what the change does to them.
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I spend several weeks in western Tanzania. I was fortunate to be staying at the residence of the local bishop.

Tanzania has Swahili as it’s native language, but it used to be an English colony, so all educated people speak English to a certain extent, but fluency is not really all that common in the rural areas I was in.

He was very much in favor of the new translation. Not the least of which because the people who knew English recognized that what was said in the English Masses didn’t match up to what they said in Swahili

In addition, the bishop himself was fluent in Italian and German, and passable in Latin.

He common response was that the English translation was deficent, but they were working on a new one.

This trip was in October, so prior to Tanzania’s adoption of the new translation. But the bishop had already mandated that the regular English Masses in his seminary be done with the new translation, as well as saying his personal Masses in English using the new translation ( so those were my first actual Masses in the new translation).

The Masses were well done, even by priests who were not especially fluent in English. and the seminarians responese were well done as well.
 
JerrySeibert said:
I love it. Because the Church said it must be done. And if attending Mass means I must change then so be it.
It is funny watching the expression on our Priests face as half the congregation gets it right and the other half don’t. He smiles and continues and we have the little prayer cards and Father tells everyone when to look at it and that is the funny part they still mess it up. But, we are getting there and it seems the older generation likes it better. I am post VII so I know no other Mass as the one that just changed. Which is fine, I enjoyed it for forty years and God willing I will enjoy the new translation another forty.
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Unfortunately, when my church was preparing people for the new translation, I was recovering from surgery as a result, I have missed all of preparation as well as the first advent mass. I went for the last half of the mass last Saturday and from what I saw, I was personally appalled with some of the language. My degree is in English literature and as far as I am concerned, the bit I heard was over translated. English is a very symbolic language therefore the translation didn’t take that into account either.

My opinions might change because when I attended the mass, I was extremely tired, stressed and was still sore from my surgery. I had an emergency just before mass was due to begin. In addition, I am also a new convert because I converted this past March therefore I am just beginning to get the hang of the responses. We’ll see what happens. God is awesome, plus I belong to a great church so I’m just going to see what happens.
 
Rence said:
Ok, I’ll be careful 👍
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fall fox

For what it’s worth, I’m proud of your response.

It sounds like your Pastor is saying a hodgepodge Mass like they do on EWTN, Part English part Latin. I’m old enough that I knew all the Latin responces of the pre-V II Mass. I would never want to go back to the Latin Mass. I can’t think in Latin so it doesn’t make much sense to me to pray in Latin.
 
Corki said:
I have only heard a few people express discontent with the new translation. They were in their 50s/early 60s. The younger ones all seem to take it in stride. Nothing more than mild annoyance at having to learn something new. No one seems to object to the reasons, they are just a little less comfortable since the old words were so familiar.
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fall fox

I am surprised that folks in their 60’s are having trouble with it, we have done this before only from Latin. To me there is a lot that is familiar about the new translation.
 
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