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TheMc
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Excuse me, the council intended that the OF be mainly in Latin. That’s what should be happening.
How many Catholics are being put off by the new Mass translation?
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ProVobis
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That’s a good way of putting it. Italian is probably the most singable because of the vowel endings. (Latin is very close behind.) Even words or syllables which end with “m” “n” “s” are sustainable, whereas it’s very difficult to hold words ending with “d,” “t,” “f” etc in chant. I think you probably know that already, though.
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LilyM
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I’ve seen one parishioner use the gesture while saying ‘and with your spirit’. But thanks be only two or three people ever did it here to begin with, so it’s not a huge deal.
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MartyrForJesus
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What hand gesture? I’ve never seen it.
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Corki
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I think they are talking about the one where it looks like they are trying to hand something back to the priest. Sometimes it comes with a swoop.
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Corki
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It’s not that they have trouble saying it; they just object to a change that they see as “going backwards”. This is the same age-group that seems to be the most liberal in the Church.
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MartyrForJesus
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Wouldn’t they hit the person in front of them?
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Sarahforgiven
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I don’t think it has been a problem in our parish 
The changes are not that many & we practiced some with the Gloria, etc. Before advent.
I think Latin is good, & wish we had more. There are no EFs in our area.
The changes are not that many & we practiced some with the Gloria, etc. Before advent.
I think Latin is good, & wish we had more. There are no EFs in our area.
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YoungTradCath
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That is so annoying.
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onmyknees
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I am 52 and I love, love the changes! They are so reverent, beautiful, and closer to the old English prayers! The people in our parish that don’t like it are in their 60’s and 70’s and 80"s. My mother is in her 80’s. She and all her friends are making a big deal about having to say under my roof.
I have been very fortunate that all three pastors I have had since I came back to the Church have used some Latin every Sunday at the 10:30 mass. The Agnus Dei, The Sanctus, and the Greek Kyrie. All chanted. Our priest loves the beauty of the new translations. He compared it to Shakespeare. He chants the prayer right before the Sanctus too.
I was wondering if other priests pray a Latin prayer out loud on the altar after the Eucharistic prayer. I can hear our priest praying it quietly.
I have been very fortunate that all three pastors I have had since I came back to the Church have used some Latin every Sunday at the 10:30 mass. The Agnus Dei, The Sanctus, and the Greek Kyrie. All chanted. Our priest loves the beauty of the new translations. He compared it to Shakespeare. He chants the prayer right before the Sanctus too.
I was wondering if other priests pray a Latin prayer out loud on the altar after the Eucharistic prayer. I can hear our priest praying it quietly.
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fall_fox
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I have met some of these folks and it makes me wonder what kind of experience they went through to learn their faith, apparently it was much different than my own. What they like about our watered down version of Catholicism is that it is quasi Protestant where fellowship is the main focus, not Christ in the Eucharist.
“going backward” yep and that is a wonderful thing. We need to go back and correct damage done. We have going on three generations that have no clear idea what the Catholic Church is all about. Post Vatican II has been a very dangerous time for the Church. It’s fortunate that Jesus said he would be with us to the end of time, his presence in the Church is the only reason the Catholic Church has survived.
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fall_fox
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No excuse needed here.
I really must write down what all the abbreviations mean, I just can’t seem to place enough importance to them to remember them. A flaw I’m sure.
We will always have the Latin Mass, or at least I hope so, to be the bench mark of our Mass in the vernacular, something that will never change. Just like they did with the new translation, the Latin base was there.
However, as I said, I can’t think in Latin, so why should I want to pray in Latin?
As I have said before in the CAF, I was an alter boy way back and of course, I knew all the Latin responses. Now, when I hear Latin, whether in song or phrase I do love the sound, but I don’t want a daily dose of it.
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duneman
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wow sounds like more than mass change upsetting you in your life…maybe your scaring your friends into agreeing with you… you need to sit and watch this movie… to refresh your perspective!!!I hate it and it takes away from the experience for me, and my friends hate it, but what can we do? It’s not like the Church is a democracy or anything
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p.s. i think it is a beautiful change!!!
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NewEnglandPriest
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That’s not how the Church works. While there is a tightening of things lately there is no great push for a “mainly in Latin” Mass. Contrary to popular opinion, the Church really does listen to the people and the people overwhelmingly like Mass mainly in the vernacular.
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LilHomemaker
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Oh, I hope so, so very much.
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ProVobis
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People like everything in their own vernacular. The Reformers knew this too.
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NewEnglandPriest
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And your point is?People like everything in their own vernacular. The Reformers knew this too.
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oneGODoneCHURCH
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People like to stay hiome and watch tv on sunday or sleep in. The devil knows that to. just because it is what the “people” want does not make it the right thing to do.People like everything in their own vernacular. The Reformers knew this too.
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YoungTradCath
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That’s exactly ProVobis’s point.
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A_G
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I honestly like the new translation. I sometimes attend Mass in both Croatian as well as English. The English Mass at my parish and the Croatian Mass that I grew up with and still attend today, is pretty much the same translation. I think it’s beautiful how much closer to a word for word Latin translation the english Mass has become.
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