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when people find out i have six children, they often say, “well, God bless you!” like i need it, but i just reply, " He already did, 6 times!"
Well, obviously.And, if you CAN’T support them, for whatever reason (Iike say for instance your family is doing well, you have a large family and then the economy crashes and you’re suddenly NOT doing well), WHAT THEN?
This is unbelievable. I am so sorry anyone would say anything like that to you.This is very true, and something I have to keep telling myself.
When I refer to judgemet though, I am speaking more of the situations like this.
A bunch of church members and I sitting down to a church potluck dinner. They are all talking about their kids. I sit there silenty, nibbling on my bread and add what I can based on my experiences in my job. It’s typical at some point for someone to turn to me and say: “You know, catholics aren’t supposed to be contracepting. You really should fulfill the marital duty at some point.” or “career is good, but children are more important. You should realize this” or 'You’ve never had to work a day in your life until you’ve had kids"or just the “you know, contraception is a disgusting sin.”
and of course the ever helpful:
“If you don’t use those soon, they will dry up!”
Then there is the judgement in my job:
“How can you work with kids when you don’t have any yourself? You don’t know the first thing about children.”
“Until you are prepared to stop being selfish and have your own kids, you really don’t have any authority to work with them.”
I really could go on. The best part is church statistics. You aren’t counted in “family counts” if you don’t have kids. Technically, hubby and I don’t exist as a family in church stats. He technically gets counted on some level as part of his parent’s family, I don’t since I don’t come from catholic home. This typically doesn’t bother me, but at times I feel marginalized. It’s like…unless you come from a catholic family, or have kids imediately upon getting married, you don’t count. You don’t matter. You’re a waste of space. I can’t tell you the times I’ve cried mysef to sleep because of my empty arms. When I have someone telling me that I don’t realize what a blessing children are just because I don’t have any it tears me to shreds inside. I believe that i know more than many parents about the blessing children are because I have am deprived of that joy.
Hubby tries to reassure me that our day will come. He believes God will be faithful to us. I dearly hope he will. Until then, I have empty arms, a broken heart, and people who belittle my very existence as if I were stealing something from the world.
Whitacre: to be a “real” married couple, you must only be OPEN to life and completing all marital acts in a form that is open to life. You must have said your vows infront of a priest, with full consent to each other and you must have consummated the marriage after you said the vows. Then you are a real married couple, whether or not you had/have children.I wish I shared your conviction. I am insanely jealous
Our childlessness isn’t necessarily by choice. I mean, we aren’t financially ready for kids, so I guess it’s a blessing in disguise. But i hurt terribly, so the judgement only hurts more. After all, to be a REAL married couple, you have to have kids. Right? At least, that’s what I am getting from the church.
It works like this: If you have no kids, the church judges you or looks down on you. Okay, not the church, just the people in the pews.
If you have too many, society judges you. It’s just further proof that you can’t please everyone. I just wish people were judging me for having too many, than not having any. The pain I feel myself is torture enough without the noisy or pointed comments. And then we could revel in the joy of our children, instead of treating the cat like a baby…LOL
My husband and I had eight children, four boys and four girls. The only comments we got were “You must be Catholic.” We just smiled.My wife and I are both 37 and we have 7 children. We get alot of funny looks in public and my boss has been making comments lately too concerning insurance, etc. (he’s a “Catholic” too - lapsed) I’m sick of being looked at as if we are freaks. I’m not sure why people are so concerned about it. What do you say to them? Many times I’m caught off guard and only later think of a comeback. How do you deal with it? We love our kids and can’t imagine like without them.
You have my prayers that God will grant you peace regarding this. I understand this very well. I have only one son and my doctor said he does not understand how that was possible. (Yes, my son looks like me.)You didn’t include an option for 0.
Hubby and I are not able to have kids yet. We get funny looks and judgemental glances in church. It sucks.
I understand how it sucks to be judged for your fertility…or lack thereof.
Prayers for you and you family. Enjoy the blessings of your children, and realize that the people who judge you obviously have their own problems. It’s what I have to do.![]()
THIS is AWESOME!!! :clapping:when people find out i have six children, they often say, “well, God bless you!” like i need it, but i just reply, " He already did, 6 times!"
This is terrible.This is very true, and something I have to keep telling myself.
When I refer to judgemet though, I am speaking more of the situations like this.
A bunch of church members and I sitting down to a church potluck dinner. They are all talking about their kids. I sit there silenty, nibbling on my bread and add what I can based on my experiences in my job. It’s typical at some point for someone to turn to me and say: “You know, catholics aren’t supposed to be contracepting. You really should fulfill the marital duty at some point.” or “career is good, but children are more important. You should realize this” or 'You’ve never had to work a day in your life until you’ve had kids"or just the “you know, contraception is a disgusting sin.”
and of course the ever helpful:
“If you don’t use those soon, they will dry up!”
Then there is the judgement in my job:
“How can you work with kids when you don’t have any yourself? You don’t know the first thing about children.”
“Until you are prepared to stop being selfish and have your own kids, you really don’t have any authority to work with them.”
I really could go on. The best part is church statistics. You aren’t counted in “family counts” if you don’t have kids. Technically, hubby and I don’t exist as a family in church stats. He technically gets counted on some level as part of his parent’s family, I don’t since I don’t come from catholic home. This typically doesn’t bother me, but at times I feel marginalized. It’s like…unless you come from a catholic family, or have kids imediately upon getting married, you don’t count. You don’t matter. You’re a waste of space. I can’t tell you the times I’ve cried mysef to sleep because of my empty arms. When I have someone telling me that I don’t realize what a blessing children are just because I don’t have any it tears me to shreds inside. I believe that i know more than many parents about the blessing children are because I have am deprived of that joy.
Hubby tries to reassure me that our day will come. He believes God will be faithful to us. I dearly hope he will. Until then, I have empty arms, a broken heart, and people who belittle my very existence as if I were stealing something from the world.
I love this!I joke about 12 boys named after the Apostles
Even that is a crazy thing to say, as only 47% of the U.S. population pays taxes…there are only a few of us paying for the necessitities of all (police, roads, education, etc.)Well, obviously.LOL Actually, it’s my fault…I wasn’t clear or specific. Things happen. I have 2 kids, and the economy came crashing down on me and I had to accept assistance. Things happen. I meant people having children ***intending ***on the taxpayers supporting them. Big difference. I know it sounds strange, but I know people who actually do this. I guess it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round!
:hug3: Together we are called to be a light of Christ and the face of God’s will on Earth. You face those above comments, and I get the “you should have an abortion” when I’m pregnant, comments. I try to show them how I can be joyful as a mom of 9 kids, and how great a large family can be. It’s a shame that most of society believes in a contraceptive mentality, as people assume you carry those beliefs, too.This is very true, and something I have to keep telling myself.
When I refer to judgemet though, I am speaking more of the situations like this.
A bunch of church members and I sitting down to a church potluck dinner. They are all talking about their kids. I sit there silenty, nibbling on my bread and add what I can based on my experiences in my job. It’s typical at some point for someone to turn to me and say: “You know, catholics aren’t supposed to be contracepting. You really should fulfill the marital duty at some point.” or “career is good, but children are more important. You should realize this” or 'You’ve never had to work a day in your life until you’ve had kids"or just the “you know, contraception is a disgusting sin.”
and of course the ever helpful:
“If you don’t use those soon, they will dry up!”
Then there is the judgement in my job:
“How can you work with kids when you don’t have any yourself? You don’t know the first thing about children.”
“Until you are prepared to stop being selfish and have your own kids, you really don’t have any authority to work with them.”
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I know my DH had to deal with those type of comments when working for others. It never was worth causing a fuss to higher-ups, as the attitude seemed to be universal, excepting perhaps one or two in the entire company. My dh now owns his own business, so he thankfully doesn’t have to hear those comments any more (at work.) Perhaps you could ask your boss if he complains about smokers, or overweight people raising the insurance costs? Is this a small business or large? If its fairly large, one family should not increase the premiums that much. and unless your boss is in perfect health, he really shouldn’t be saying much. How’s his cholesterol levels? how good is his blood pressure? Middle age men can be kind of expensive, medically speaking. (FYI, as business owners, we pay 75% of the insurance premiums for the employees.)Hi, I’m the original op. I asked the question because many people make us feel like we are being irresponsible by having 7 children. They (the kids) are not dirty, or sickly either. Its funny because only a generation or two people had large familys and that seemed to be the norm. My wife’s mom comes from a family of 7, her dad a family of 6.
I guess I’m upset because my boss made a crack that he didn’t think I heard on my way out of the office Friday. Other times he complains about the health insurance because it keeps going up because of our family size (we also pay a portion of our insurance too). Our kids go to Catholic school too (4 of them), he says “how do you afford that?” I said, “we do without some things.” He says, “what, food.” It bothers me because he’s a Catholic too. My doctor also makes comments, like “when you going to get fixed?” I’ll say, “well it seems to work just fine.” We also get the “boy, I bet your busy, probably, don’t have any free time.” I’m just sick of the negative comments and the stares.
Honestly, I’d go have a talk with your Human Resources Department. Unless this is a small family-run business owned by your boss, he really doesn’t have any say in how you choose to use your company benefits.Hi, I’m the original op. I asked the question because many people make us feel like we are being irresponsible by having 7 children. They (the kids) are not dirty, or sickly either. Its funny because only a generation or two people had large familys and that seemed to be the norm. My wife’s mom comes from a family of 7, her dad a family of 6.
I guess I’m upset because my boss made a crack that he didn’t think I heard on my way out of the office Friday. Other times he complains about the health insurance because it keeps going up because of our family size (we also pay a portion of our insurance too). Our kids go to Catholic school too (4 of them), he says “how do you afford that?” I said, “we do without some things.” He says, “what, food.” It bothers me because he’s a Catholic too. My doctor also makes comments, like “when you going to get fixed?” I’ll say, “well it seems to work just fine.” We also get the “boy, I bet your busy, probably, don’t have any free time.” I’m just sick of the negative comments and the stares.