How would anyone know? That answer is only a matter of faith. They are all pretty good. I don’t see how one can go too wrong, really. It’s all about working hard, being humble, being kind, being just. The rest is little details…
Well, you must be going out dancing tonight, cuz this is quite a dance in this post. My hat is off to your ability to avoid the subject of Jesus’ rebellion and execution and the reason(s) that the Romans put him to death.
Interesting approach,but I strongly disagree.
And I thought Catholics could only talk about one topic at a time.Oh, dear Larkin, we are perfectly capable to talk about *both *things–you and this topic!
He was executed for saying he was God.
Didn’t you say that you thought the Bible had errors? So how do you know anything about what Jesus said and did?
Yes, this was one of the things he did. Quite rebellious, too!
I am not sure we do know it all very precisely. But we have a general sense, at least.
LOL! A general sense??
Saying he was God was rebellious?
Who said “prone to error”?
No. You do not provide enough choices.
Backpedaling, backpedaling, backpedaling.
Right. And they could have been lying, then, that he was a rebel? And all those other Bible quotes you used? They could be mistaken, interpolations, exaggerations or lies, too??
Yes, I guess he could be a rebel. I could go with that.
I am not hung up on your 100% accuracy requirement for a statement or fact or historical description to be very likely true. This is not necessary in science, it is not necessary in history, and, while I grew up in a protestant minister’s household, it was not necessary for faith in the life and teachings of Jesus. Faith does not have to be an all-or-nothing proposition. Only absolutists claim this, which you appear to be claiming that you are. Well, if that works for you, then good. But it is not a logical necessity for faith, despite the RCC insistence on it. That Jesus may have actually said something different, even slightly different, from those actual words that you read in English (so all of it in that way is not what Jesus said), seems to me not to make the house of faith crumble. But, perhaps for you it does. In the same way that we can never exactly determine the decimal value of pi, we fully accept that the ratio exists and is a near constant value through most of the conditions in geometric scenarios.
AS IT IS WRITTEN, Jesus is depicted as a rebel.Right. And they could have been lying, then, that he was a rebel? And all those other Bible quotes you used? They could be mistaken, interpolations, exaggerations or lies, too??
Yes, I guess he could be a rebel. I could go with that.
But you can’t, 'cause you don’t know if what was written about him in Scripture being a rebel is mistaken, interpolation, exaggeration or a lie.
Here’s your very own words:
So now you can’t ever say he was a rebel 'cause you don’t know if the writers were “mistaken, interpolating, exaggerating or lying.”
You’re not understanding. Even if mistaken or a lie, the DEPICTION can be interpreted.Here’s your very own words:
So now you can’t ever say he was a rebel 'cause you don’t know if the writers were “mistaken, interpolating, exaggerating or lying.”
(bold and font size change mine, for emphasis on logical conclusion)
No it isn’t. If you will exercise a little bit more logic, you will know why your answer is not valid.
No it is not, but if you will actually read my post, it explains why they are related in the Christian context.
Actually, this is the most reasonable conclusion if you believe that the Bible is inspired. I have shown with a clear logic why this is so, quite patiently as matter of fact since it seems I have to keep posting it.As a catholic, they have to believe in the totality of the church teaching or else they are not in communion with the catholic church. You’re expected to accepted their teaching for it’s the church that Christ built and for 1500 years it could not be wrong.