From other thread on “giving to the poor”
Some people also like pie. But all of those that don’t succeed didn’t necessarily just "sit around, and not all of those who do succeed really put that much effort into it. There’s a lot more that goes into it, and a good deal of it has nothing to do with initiative, intelligence, or hard work. All of those qualities can help, but they do not by themselves really assure anything.
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Well I really wasn’t talking about doing work you’re not qualified for. Obviously you shouldn’t expect to be paid for what you can’t do.
Everyone is “qualified” to play pro basket ball. But that doesn’t mean it is the career they were meant to have. Some people were meant to have a career in the warehousing industry or medical or elsewhere. You just have to come to grips with what you are good at even if it something that does not seem like a dream job at first.
I speaking to the rather common managerial mistake of not paying attention to where effort is occurring and where its not, and its unwillingness to put effort into managing. .
That sounds like a manager who will not be moving up the chain very fast. I have worked in jobs where I did not get immediate recognition from my manager but developed a reputation as a good worker and had other opportunities open for me.
Yes, but I’d rather send money to a company with better corporate policies. But I do try to stay local. Also, I’d rather support a foreign company that actually hires American workers than an American company that won’t. The American company that won’t deserves to fail. .
This is a case of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you want decent wages then buy products from companies that pay decent wages.
Yes, they’ve all crawled into the cesspool together that’s true. It would take regulation to pull them back. We’ve led the industrialized world down a primrose path. I’m afraid it won’t be to long before the chickens come home to roost. .
The better alternative is to open more not for profit businesses. We see them opening in the financial and medical industries already and there is no reason they could not open as small businesses on the local level.
First of all, while a sweat shop worker may work more hours than an American, there is a great distance between that and “outworking”. Japan for years refused to follow our lead in making their premium automobiles, for the very fact that it was their belief that if you wanted quality you had use only Japanese, American, and Canadian workers. They were right.
I’m sorry that you seem to have such a low opinion of the American worker. You’d probably be surprised to hear that Americans have a reputation for over working abroad. Does it really set well with you to watch consumer dollars leave the country, and Chinese workers not paid a just wage? How about the fact that those dollars are helping to build the infrastructure of the world’s most powerful “leftist” nation, whose policies are often directly opposed to those of the West? All of that is cool, as long as the company gets to improve its profit margin? .
I wasn’t talking about all American workers. I am talking about those who subscribe to the do just enough to not get fired theory. I do not like seeing the companies going to foreign suppliers, it is just the hard reality of life when the average consumer only thinks of price.
Major Job Objectives. Basically a point based system for determining an individual worker’s contributions over a given year. Different companies, and managers use the concept in different ways. But you get the idea.
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I once had an employee who was assigned to me who was far overqualified for the job. They wanted more responsibility, a promotion, and more opportunity. I just needed a person to do semi medial work. The person kept complaining that I was not letting them do the work they were qualified to do. Unfortunately what they wanted to do did not coincide with what I needed done. I worked with the personnel manager that assigned the person to my team and got the person into a better job (two level promotion) but bottom line is that there are brackets of pay for every type of job and if you want to get out of that bracket you need to work towards a promotion.
Well it is true that one has to change jobs to get different pay, benefits or privileges. However, some people enter into a position they enjoy and excel at. They shouldn’t be punished for that. Why should someone go into management when they enjoy working, creating, and problem solving? Of course that is admittedly a subject thing, but honestly its silly to have to move out a position where you make a difference just so you can get paid more.
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That is a choice you have to make. Earn money or have fun.
If several other people can do the job you are doing and are willing to do it for about the same pay, why should a boss pay you more just because you want more money but are unwilling to get a harder job? Don’t those other people have a right to your job if you are unsatisfied with the wages?
No, I just have open eyes when I’m in the work place. I have a good job, and honestly my current direct mangers are pretty good. Heck my director is actually pretty darn bright, which is something totally new to me. So no I could be doing a lot worse and I know it. I also have a senior position with one of the two largest Hospital companies in the nation Having started out working on a truck farm, I have a pretty good sense for just what opportunities I have had. And I thank God for them. However, I do not think that my success is because I’m so great. I’ve had some opportunities that others haven’t. There are better men than me doing a lot worse. Its them I feel for. Just because things are going good for me doesn’t mean I’m entitled. The Corporate culture in this country is strangling it. One doesn’t have to be “leftist” or on the “right” to figure that out.
The best way to help them is to encourage them to work to their God given potential. Let’s face it about 1/3rd of our country is on some form of government assistance. If all of those people were working to their potential we could greatly increase the standard of living for all.
