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I go once or twice per month, just really depends. If I have to, I’ll go every week just receive communion.
Just to clarify, the knowledge of the grave matter is simple knowledge, they must know that the Church teaches that it is grave matter.As Anathama pointed out in an earlier post, it is one of the three conditions that must be met in order for a sin to be mortal.
I personally believe that stealing a $3 item is just as bad as stealing a $1000 item. Killing a man that no one cares about is just as bad as killing a popular man. Stealing is stealing and murder is murder. Would you say that my conscience is not as well-formed? I know that you aren’t here to judge others, but I just want your honest opinion. If I were a family member of yours and you wanted to pray that I become a better person, would you pray that my conscience become more like those of some of the other posters here?Many of the items you listed are venial. Stealing a $3 item wouldn’t be grave matter, for instance.
However, if you have a well-formed conscience, which everyone is supposed to have, you know when something is grave matter.
Now, if someone is truly having a hard time discerning, then he/she does not have a well-formed conscience, and that’s another problem altogether.
Actually you are obligated to receive once a year but you are only obligated to confess if you have any mortal sins to confess. You are not obligated to confess if you have not committed any mortal sins during the year.You are only obligated to confess and receive once a year, during Easter time. However, confession once a week should be our goal, and communion every day or at the very least on Sundays.
Greetings RosaryFan,This is why I’m both happy and relieved to leave the job of judging others to God.![]()
Greetings to the OP,Many of the items you listed are venial. Stealing a $3 item wouldn’t be grave matter, for instance.
However, if you have a well-formed conscience, which everyone is supposed to have, you know when something is grave matter.
Now, if someone is truly having a hard time discerning, then he/she does not have a well-formed conscience, and that’s another problem altogether.
Greetings Truthseekerjay,I personally believe that stealing a $3 item is just as bad as stealing a $1000 item. Killing a man that no one cares about is just as bad as killing a popular man. Stealing is stealing and murder is murder. Would you say that my conscience is not as well-formed? I know that you aren’t here to judge others, but I just want your honest opinion. If I were a family member of yours and you wanted to pray that I become a better person, would you pray that my conscience become more like those of some of the other posters here?
All of this the church already does. If you are not Catholic or Orthodox, you have no such Sacrament available to you. No way of knowing if a sin is mortal, venial, or if it is even a sin at all. What if someone who does not have the Sacrament confesses directly to God, but God does not forgive that sin? Without confession and absolution, you do not know - cannot know if your sin is actually forgiven. I would also worry about all of those Christians, who make no distinction at all between sins - yet the bible does.Driving 70 mph in the desert still threatens one’s own safety. And can anyone say, without a doubt, that stealing $1000 from Bill Gates is a venial sin? I believe that people sin all the time and if they honestly don’t think so, then they might be being prideful (the sin that got Satan kicked out of heaven). Anyway, I don’t know if anyone can truly tell if a sin is venial or mortal. I would think that the Catholic Church would want to play it safe and not have it’s members receive communion in an unworthy fashion by emphasizing in mass or religious education the consequences of receiving communion with a mortal sin on one’s conscience. If it doesn’t do so, then I feel that it could potentially be enabling people to continue “eating and drinking damnation unto themselves.” People should definitely take responsibility for their own actions, but since the Catholic Church sees itself as the authority, then I would think that it has a responsibility to its members especially on matters that could lead them to eternal punishment in hell. It seems like there are many people here who already go to confession regularly, but we all know of many people that don’t including family members and friends. I know that we are not here to judge others, but out of love, wouldn’t you and the Catholic Church want to play it safe and encourage people to go to confession more often?
For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must be met:Driving 70 mph in the desert still threatens one’s own safety. And can anyone say, without a doubt, that stealing $1000 from Bill Gates is a venial sin? I believe that people sin all the time and if they honestly don’t think so, then they might be being prideful (the sin that got Satan kicked out of heaven). Anyway, I don’t know if anyone can truly tell if a sin is venial or mortal. I would think that the Catholic Church would want to play it safe and not have it’s members receive communion in an unworthy fashion by emphasizing in mass or religious education the consequences of receiving communion with a mortal sin on one’s conscience. If it doesn’t do so, then I feel that it could potentially be enabling people to continue “eating and drinking damnation unto themselves.” People should definitely take responsibility for their own actions, but since the Catholic Church sees itself as the authority, then I would think that it has a responsibility to its members especially on matters that could lead them to eternal punishment in hell. It seems like there are many people here who already go to confession regularly, but we all know of many people that don’t including family members and friends. I know that we are not here to judge others, but out of love, wouldn’t you and the Catholic Church want to play it safe and encourage people to go to confession more often?
I’m not saying that you can’t tell when you’re sinning. I’m saying that you can’t tell how God views the seriousness of your sin. I listed a couple of actions that I thought were serious sins including downloading songs from the internet without paying. I think it was you that said that this would probably be venial sin, however, I think this is a mortal sin. Would God think that you were right or that I was right? At this point, know one can really say for sure. So to play it safe, I would think that people would act more conservatively and consider all their sins mortal.To insinuate that we’re all so stupid as to not realize we’re sinning is as ludicrous as the example of driving 70mph in the dessert.
Put it this way - if you think it’s a mortal sin, and you go ahead and do it anyway, you will be judged more harshly by God than someone who doesn’t realize there’s anything wrong with it.I’m not saying that you can’t tell when you’re sinning. I’m saying that you can’t tell how God views the seriousness of your sin. I listed a couple of actions that I thought were serious sins including downloading songs from the internet without paying. I think it was you that said that this would probably be venial sin, however, I think this is a mortal sin.
We should certainly never deliberately set out to commit sin - not even venial sins - and if we catch ourselves in sin, we need to discern whether we need to go to Confession as soon as possible, before the next time we go to Mass, or if we can wait for the weekend.Would God think that you were right or that I was right? At this point, know one can really say for sure. So to play it safe, I would think that people would act more conservatively and consider all their sins mortal.
I think you’ve misunderstood. We can still be conscious of them. For instance, if I went to a porn site and masturbated, that would be two Mortal Sins, and I would be conscious of the fact that I committed them. If I then received the Eucharist in this state, that would be sacrilege, and sacrilege is the worst sin you can commit. However, if you commit a Mortal Sin and then forget about it, you’re forgiven and you are allowed to receive the Eucharist, the same way that if you go to confession and immediately after you’re done you remember a Mortal sin you’re forgiven. But you’re only forgiven if you truly forgot about it. Trying to forget about it is a sin. There’s no problem with saying, “It would be really convenient if I forgot about this…”, but if you really tried to forget about it, that is most likely a Mortal Sin in and of itself.-The five precepts only require Catholics to go to confession at least once a year.
-I learned in CCD that one can’t receive communion if they haven’t confessed their mortal sins.
-I was told that if one received communion without confessing their mortal sins, that they would be in danger of severe punishment.
-In another thread, I think there was a conclusion that only God truly knows if an individual has committed a mortal sin or a venial sin.
Does the Catholic Church expect individuals to only receive communion once a year? I would think that if they wanted Catholics to receive communion weekly that they would recommend going to confession weekly as well. Since one can’t tell which sins committed during the week are mortal and which are venial, couldn’t someone receiving communion without going to confession be endangering themselves of severe punishment? Is there something that I’m missing or misunderstanding?
I actually posted this on another thread, but this might show you where I’m coming from.I noticed your religious status, and I realize that you keep bringing up things of this nature. All sin is bad, but there are sins that are worse than others. And there are circumstances which increase the gravity of a sin. You have to factor all of this in, and that is best left up to the Confessor and to God.
Greetings Truthseekerjay,I actually posted this on another thread, but this might show you where I’m coming from.
I identify myself as Christian with mainline Protestant beliefs and I feel that ALL sin breaks our relationship with God. With my limited human knowledge, I usually think of sins as more severe if they have more severe visible consequences. So from past experience with visible consequences, I would say that stealing a $1000 item is PROBABLY worse than stealing a $3 item. However, with this line of thinking, a thief may steal a $3 item not knowing that it had sentimental value for the victim. We may have seen the results of our sins in the past, but we can’t be completely sure of the true effects of our sin. For all we know, pride could be worse in God’s eyes than murder (wasn’t pride the sin that got Satan kicked out of heaven?).
Back then, I used to think that it was not that bad to listen to gossip or to steal a $3 item, but it was only after I accepted Christ, that I started to see that these “minor” sins might actually have more serious consequences that I can’t see or understand with my human knowledge. To be completely honest and just so that everyone knows that I’m not trying to be judgmental, I still often fail with regards to these “minor” sins and choose to focus more on my sins that have visible consequences, like fixing my relationship with my family members and friends. However, I don’t expect God to be lenient with me for these “minor” sins and I TRY to be ready to receive whatever consequences they bring. I’m not perfect and I do have to pick my battles, but as I grow in Christ, I would hope that fixing these “minor” sins becomes more of a priority. Aren’t we supposed to be undergoing a process of purification all the time? To me, it seems like distinguishing between mortal and venial sins doesn’t give many people an incentive to fix the sins they perceive as venial, but this is just my opinion.
1 John 5:16
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
The Church guides us in discerning which of our sins results in a complete break in our relationship with God.16He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask.
The answers are in the Catechism.-The five precepts only require Catholics to go to confession at least once a year.
-I learned in CCD that one can’t receive communion if they haven’t confessed their mortal sins.
-I was told that if one received communion without confessing their mortal sins, that they would be in danger of severe punishment.
-In another thread, I think there was a conclusion that only God truly knows if an individual has committed a mortal sin or a venial sin.
Does the Catholic Church expect individuals to only receive communion once a year? I would think that if they wanted Catholics to receive communion weekly that they would recommend going to confession weekly as well. Since one can’t tell which sins committed during the week are mortal and which are venial, couldn’t someone receiving communion without going to confession be endangering themselves of severe punishment? Is there something that I’m missing or misunderstanding?