How To Handle Abusive In-laws And Family?

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My in-laws and BIL are extremely abusive to me and to our family.

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Verbally or physically or both?
Do you live near them?
Do you visit them or are they visiting you?
 
Both. They are very abusive, and non-supportive to me and my family. I have posted 4 times, all the while my posts have been erased.
 
Abusive people, family or not are to be avoided at all costs.

Let them know if the abuse continues that you and your family will disappear from their lives. Then DO IT.
 
If your posts keep getting deleted, please feel free to drop me an email. We’ve dealt with the abusive in-law situation and it’s a long story to tell. Let’s just say that we don’t see them any more but I’m happy to talk as we had to deal with them for 14 years.
 
Any abuse is intolerable. If there are children involved then it is especially important to remove them from the situation. My sister (and the family as a consequence) went through a horrendous years-long ordeal after discovering sexual abuse of her 2-year-old daughter. Not saying this will always happen, but do be on the look-out.
 
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mommyaprilj:
Abusive people, family or not are to be avoided at all costs.

Let them know if the abuse continues that you and your family will disappear from their lives. Then DO IT.
Amen. My in-laws were abusive in ways I feel uncomfortable even going into on a public forum. Even our Catholic therapist finally told us, after nine months of counseling and trying to “work things out with them,” to completely eliminate these people from our lives. He told us he’s only reccommended that extreme step one other time in all his years of practice, but that he had never ran into people like my DH’s parents before. (Btw, our Catholic therapist is also the psychologist who does the evaluations for Fr. Corapi’s community. He is a very solid man.)

We have moved, changed phone numbers, jobs, email addresses, etc and they have no idea where we are. (We are very close to a cousin of my husband’s, however, and she and her husband know where we are and completely support our decision. They were forced to do the same thing, though a slightly different set of circumstances.) It is the only way we feel safe from his parents, who truly are extremely venomous and unwilling to acknowledge or change their behavior. After we cut off contact on our end, with plenty of warning and many opportunities for them to discuss and mutually come to a compromise–which they refused to do, they literally began stalking us and moving was a step our therapist reccommended and something we discerned through prayer to be the right choice. Obviously our situation allowed for it (being young, not owning our own home and not having to worry about uprooting children), and obviously it is rare to have a situation like ours that even called for such a drastic step. Unfortunately there are some truly sick and toxic people out there.

Sparkle, obviously your situation is entirely different than mine, but I know you’ve been posting about it for as long as you’ve been a member. Have you read any of the Boundaries books by Cloud and Townsend? Have you spoken with your counselor about the situation? What does your husband say about it? Does he set boundaries and protect you from the abuse?

I am really fortunate in that my husband recognizes his marital responsibilities and his duty to protect me and the foundation of our family together. He made it clear that he will not tolerate any attacks on either of us and when his parents persisted, they got exactly what my husband told them would happen if their behavior did not stop. He often comments how peaceful our lives are without them harrassing and abusing us…

I am not saying that you should cut off contact with your in-laws, as that is a drastic step and really only feasible and appropriate in certain situations. I am only sharing with you what it took from us in order to establish a healthy distance–we tried many, many other things before it came to this. What I am saying, however, is that *you need to be willing and able to set boundaries for yourself and choose how you will or will not be treated. *We came to realize that including these people in our lives out of obligation, merely because they happen to be biologically related to us, was simply not our moral duty. Putting up with abuse is not acceptable and we decided to no longer put ourselves in harms way and be on the receiving end of their poisonous dysfunction. To do so meant we shared responsibility in how we were treated, as we knew exactly what to expect and it happened without fail.
 
Thank you. This is the 5th post I’ve written explaining the situation more fully and it gets erased. What’s up? As I explain my situation–it gets erased. Thank you for replies. May God Bless You all~
 
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sparkle:
Thank you. This is the 5th post I’ve written explaining the situation more fully and it gets erased. What’s up? As I explain my situation–it gets erased. Thank you for replies. May God Bless You all~
It may be too long of a post and then erases it when you try to edit it. Start saving it (copy, paste) and then your computer will hold on to it when you try to post it the next time (by pasting it into a new post).
 
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sparkle:
Thank you. This is the 5th post I’ve written explaining the situation more fully and it gets erased. What’s up? As I explain my situation–it gets erased. Thank you for replies. May God Bless You all~
Are your posts more explicit than they should be for a family forum? Check the stickies for rules or PM a moderator.
 
No. My posts are not explicit in any way.

I just wanted to say, after 17 years of taking abusive from my in-laws, who never want to quit, now I am taking it from a BIL. He charged in our home last evening, proceeding to verbally abuse me and hubby in front of our kids, calling me a bad “b” word all the while. I was just astonished. He complained because we had the porch lites on at nite, and started yelling at me in particular saying “who’s paying the bills? --my parents’ money…you have no business”, etc…yes, hubby’s parents have helped on occasion. This is between my H and his parents. Well it was very out of line, inappropriate, etc.

How can I set boundaries and be a Christian all the while dealing with this? He is in no way a healthy influence on my sons, never has been, he lives a loose lifestyle, numerous live-in girlfriends, smokes pot, drinks, swears alot, etc., yet he’s one of my husbands brothers. I don’t know how to handle it. I really think I should forbid him entry into our home, as he, same as the in-laws only seems to want to stir up strife. I have talked with my husband about it often, yet he does or says nada. Last nite, he meekly said “hey, this is not your business”. Then I politely asked this BIL to leave, which he did. Once again, it seems this family I married into is nothing but trouble. They speak bad about me, the mom, and spit on my H too. Then he screams about how my H still owes him some money.
Insight? I plan to e-mail him telling him to leave us alone. That we’re trying to raise our kids in a Christian manner.
I truly know what it is to know wolves in sheeps clothing. A trial.
Last week he was helping H with something around the house in the yard, and shows up at kids bedtime one nite, dinner time twice, doesn’t call first, disrupting entire family, accusing me of being “paranoid” because I lock my doors, generally very awful, just like in-laws were/are before I had to put my foot down telling them they were not welcome unless they call first. This is highly disruptive to my family. How should I handle it friends?
 
1.) This is at least assault, BIL’s behavior, if not breaking and entering. Ever thought about calling the police? A night in the pokey might do him some good.

2.) Ever thought about taking out an order of protection? These are usually free to file. Some places have advocates who help during the court procedure.

3.) It might come down to counseling and moving, as somebody else suggested.
You are in my prayers. Abuse is confusing and a tough one to sort out. But nobody should have to take abuse.
 
OutinChgoburbs said:
1.) This is at least assault, BIL’s behavior, if not breaking and entering. Ever thought about calling the police? A night in the pokey might do him some good.

2.) Ever thought about taking out an order of protection? These are usually free to file. Some places have advocates who help during the court procedure.

3.) It might come down to counseling and moving, as somebody else suggested.
You are in my prayers. Abuse is confusing and a tough one to sort out. But nobody should have to take abuse.

Thank you friend. It almost got to this with the in-laws, as after repeated nice requests to ask them to call first before coming over, after literally years of asking, I almost had to resort to this. Finally, they complied, after a letter I wrote them. Man–this BOUNDARIES thing can be very hard.
I would like to know what some of you have to say regarding how to set boundaries within your families/neighbors, etc. Yes, it seems when you say them, declare them, mention is just NOT acceptable, these insensitive folks like to turn it on you, like you’re the bad person. You know? I just don’t find any place in my home for destructive people and will not tolerate it. I think being firm and speaking up in truth is the right thing. Too bad these are my H’s family. Mine are so completely different. A real spiritual battle I am facing. Need the weapons to gird myself for this battle!!!
 
Thank you Princess Abby for your very wise response. YES, you are most right especially where you say you do not have a DUTY to abusive folks, family or no family. This has been a real lesson for me. For I tolerated it for so long in my home, tried so hard to be nice and loving, no no avail, they never could change, despite my efforts. I need to re-read the Boundaries book. Read it once years ago when dealing with the in-laws, not one BIL is an exact extension of them lately, very sick and very toxic. Have you read the book “Safe People”, by the authors? Think I’ll go look for it soon.

Thank you PA for your reply. I read all of these posts from all and they are most helpful!

Sincerely,
 
Sparkle,
I know you want to try to get along with your hubbys family but not at the expense of your children. My sister and I had to come to the same conclusion about our own mom. We now only invite her to formal events like my wedding but we don’t allow her to run our lives. We also have come to the point where we have to point out her bad behaviors to her. Yes, it is ok to politely point out bad behavior. It looks like you have been trying for years to be a part of a family that shows no respect. If you have to severe ties with them for the sake of your family and children, then so be it. Just be aware that if you do severe ties they will react badly at first then it will occur to them that it won’t be on their terms anymore but yours. Be upfront and let them know what your terms are. If they don’t respect them, don’t answer the door to them or their phone calls. I know it is easier said than done but it does have to be done. The main thing is you have to do what is right for you and your hubby and kids.
 
Hi there, seperating yourself from these people may well mean you have to stop accepting any financial help from them. When you accept money it gives you a sense of obligation and they feel they have certain rights. Never a good thing.

I’ll recommend two books to you by Dr. Susan Forward. “Toxic Inlaws” and “Emotional Blackmail”. Make that three - there’s also “Toxic Parents”. We’ve found them very insightful and helpful.

My MIL has carried the emotional blackmail to the point that she has decided that she will punish us by, as she said, ‘removing [herself] from our lives’. She sure doesn’t understand the meaning of ‘punishment’ 😉 We’ve done everything we can to open communication but this just seems to serve her purposes more so we’ve given up and left the ball entirely in her court. Have informed her of this as well. She did the same to her father and a sister so it’s just part of her life pattern to be the victim when someone won’t live their lives according to her dictates. She is missing out on so much but my husband’s self-esteem has rocketed and he’s feeling much happier with her out of the way. Sometimes I think this situation bothers me more than him but I’ve managed to let it go.

Anyway, good luck, you can often find those books on Ebay.
 
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mumto5:
Hi there, seperating yourself from these people may well mean you have to stop accepting any financial help from them. When you accept money it gives you a sense of obligation and they feel they have certain rights. Never a good thing.

I’ll recommend two books to you by Dr. Susan Forward. “Toxic Inlaws” and “Emotional Blackmail”. Make that three - there’s also “Toxic Parents”. We’ve found them very insightful and helpful.

My MIL has carried the emotional blackmail to the point that she has decided that she will punish us by, as she said, ‘removing [herself] from our lives’. She sure doesn’t understand the meaning of ‘punishment’ 😉 We’ve done everything we can to open communication but this just seems to serve her purposes more so we’ve given up and left the ball entirely in her court. Have informed her of this as well. She did the same to her father and a sister so it’s just part of her life pattern to be the victim when someone won’t live their lives according to her dictates. She is missing out on so much but my husband’s self-esteem has rocketed and he’s feeling much happier with her out of the way. Sometimes I think this situation bothers me more than him but I’ve managed to let it go.

Anyway, good luck, you can often find those books on Ebay.
THX! I’ll look for those books! Just what I need. Sounds like you really handled your situation very well mumto5. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to. Yep. As far as financially, H hasn’t not taken one dime from them in a few months now, but every time they offer to give him $ to help with bills, and he accepts they hold it over his head and never let him hear the end of it, and manipulate him and us up to yin yang. H said it has to stop after this latest BIL episode. I’m very glad for this.
 
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sparkle:
THX! I’ll look for those books! Just what I need. Sounds like you really handled your situation very well mumto5. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to. Yep. As far as financially, H hasn’t not taken one dime from them in a few months now, but every time they offer to give him $ to help with bills, and he accepts they hold it over his head and never let him hear the end of it, and manipulate him and us up to yin yang. H said it has to stop after this latest BIL episode. I’m very glad for this.
We had that thing going on where MIL would pass my husband money ‘to help out’. In reality, what she was doing was making him feel inadequate as it carried the suggestion that he couldn’t provide for his family and needed to be helped. My MIL needs to be needed. She actually can’t handle a relationship where she is not a rescuer. How does your husband feel about the money thing? I realise this may sound to some like we’re being ungrateful but in the full context, I think it’s easy to see the message behind her ‘helping’. She’s always put him down and made suggestions he’s not capable. When he was putting our fourth child (so you’d think he’d have a clue about babies by then) in the highchair she came rushing over and took over stating.“Here son, let me do this, we don’t want him to get hurt!”

Does your husband ‘see’ what his mother does or is he blind to it? It can be hard for them when they’ve seen it all their lives.
 
Sparkle: this was part of my answer to your post about your son…but with a little tweaking, seemed applicable here as well:

…Start seeing yourself as someone who is worthy of respect. If you allow yourself to be run over and kicked like a stray dog–by anyone–it’s like inviting abuse into your life. Being a “good Christian” has never meant tolerating abuse. As a member of the Christian family, you are of God, His creation, His own beloved daughter–that alone makes you worthy of being treated with dignity–and should give you the fortitude to stand up and defend yourself whenever you are degraded or insulted by anyone. Ask yourself if you would you stand by silently and allow anyone, including your family members, to ransack or vandalize your church or other sacred symbol or place? If not, how can you let them abuse what is living and holy in their midst?

As a member of your own family you are a loyal wife (+DIL,SIL) and dedicated mother–both roles and their related sacrifices have earned you the expectation that you will be treated with respect in your own home. Abuse should never be tolerated or swept aside as if insignificant. I think you are making the mistake of thinking if you assert your right to be treated with respect–it’s the same as being demanding or defiant for your own sake. But what you are defending is really God’s dignity and your role in His plan for you and your family’s life. It is essential that your family see you as strong, confident and committed in that role–not that you are trying to “wear the pants” or undermine your husband, but that you understand your duties and responsibilities and that no human being will derail your effors to fulfill them.

Your husband has repatedly demonstrated that he cannot be counted on to stand up for you. It’s time to learn to do this for yourself and your kids–knowing that many of our prayers and good wishes are with you.
 
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