How to intercept an abortion---confidentiality issue

[Julian_Bashir]

She can call the police.
Tho I don’t think this doctor is doing anything against the law.
But this friend interfering just might be…

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NSA hasnt done anything in violation of law, but we have still have people up in arms, saying it is unjust and unethical. I don’t think laws carte blanche protect us from doing God’s will. The laws in place must be just.

The question is whether nor not the person was sure this was an abortion, which morally is no different than knowing they were going to murder their spouse, and if they knew, what could they do.

Again, the law is frankly irrelevant unless it if protecting a just act. Laws in other countries allow for stoning a woman who has been raped. I wouldn’t hide behind the law in that case either - the stoning is always wrong, and most people would do what they could to stop it.

Again, the question is whether or not the OP could know indeed something immoral was going on; that’s where it gets dicey.

True. But she didn’t know that was the case. And she didn’t have the right to know.

A) You are correct that she may not have known. We don’t have enough info.

B) There is no right to privacy morally speaking for murder, if it was abortion. There was no right to privacy for Aaron Hernandez in the alleged murder of Odin LLoyd. The right to privacy would only apply to just acts. All laws only apply to just acts. How best to handle the situation in each case is what is at issue. We have sidewalk counselors at the abortion clinic where we pray. They confront women going in, educate them, and pray with them. They do not of course forcefully stop them. Again, we talk about the right to privacy in absolute terms, when no law that does not come from God can be spoken of in absolute terms. This isn’t to say a person may not violate US law, but that is secondary to doing the right thing.

 

[BellsMom]

If aborting a fetus is truly the moral equivalent of murdering a toddler, I can’t believe there would be any discussion about privacy before rushing to stop it.

I can only surmise that they aren’t really the same, even to people who are pro-life.

 

[Julian_Bashir]

If aborting a fetus is truly the moral equivalent of murdering a toddler, I can’t believe there would be any discussion about privacy before rushing to stop it.

I can only surmise that they aren’t really the same, even to people who are pro-life.

They are the same, hence my point. Murder is murder, correct?

 

[maryjk]

If aborting a fetus is truly the moral equivalent of murdering a toddler, I can’t believe there would be any discussion about privacy before rushing to stop it.

I can only surmise that they aren’t really the same, even to people who are pro-life.

The problem is, there is no way to know that this woman is having an “abortion.” “Abortion” isn’t a medical term.

She is possibly having either a D&C or D&E. Both terms are used for procedures that are perfectly legitimate medical conditions. Neither of which are abortions.

It is a good thing we have privacy laws. Otherwise my entire parish could know I had a D&C last year. Oh, my, I had heavy periods. That must mean I had an abortion.

 

[RoseMary131]

Our Lady of Guadalupe ~ Patroness of the Unborn ~ Pray for us.

I would like to first say how much I dislike confronting issues with people. I would like to speak today as if I had just witness this thread take place in my parish. How would I feel? What would I want to say to address statements from my fellow Catholics? (Would I have the courage to say or am I too afraid what others will think of me?)

I do not want to seem as if anything I say is a personal attack, but I do want to state honestly what I “see”, which is only my poor interpretation. Please, do not be personally offended, I would like to act as a teacher using this fictional tale “Prayer Group at St. Michael’s” based on this post.

I am swirling this tale all together as if distraught in the emotions of someone hearing about a personal account of an abortion and seeking help.

Prayer Group at St. Michael’s

As Catholics, we are called to Live the Gospel of Life in every aspect of our day. (For those who are non-Catholics, non-Christian, or atheist, I am voicing the call for Catholics to live their faith.)

Our sister Casey has walked into our prayer group a bit upset. She’s been crying and is wiping her eyes with a Kleenex. She looks around the room and notices the board with prayer requests for important aspects in the lives of our friends. “For my niece to find a job. For our dog who has been missing since yesterday. For the closing of the local abortion mill. For the soul of my friend who died in Iraq. For my sister who is addicted to alcohol.”

She shares with us that her dear friend has called her in a state of distress. This dear friend has noticed by accident, that someone she knows is scheduled to abort her dear child today. Casey and her friend pray for this mother and child. Casey wants to know from us is there anything her friend can do to help this poor abortion-minded mother.

Casey and her friend are very aware of the delicate nature of this issue and aware of the need to keep anything about this woman in utmost confidence. Having not been in this situation before, there is a question on what can the friend do to assist this poor mother.

Casey asks us for guidance. Casey does not share the location of the hospital where her friend works or the location of where her friend lives. She does not tell us anything about her friend’s position at the hospital or any other details. We don’t even know if Casey herself knows the name of this mother.

Casey seems to want to know “How does one live the Gospel of Life while working in a hospital that performs abortion?” She wants us to help her understand a situation that is new to her and is causing her discomfort, as well as, her friend. She wants us to help her with “Is there a way, the friend can reach out to this woman?”

Here is what Casey hears from the Catholics and other friends gathered together.

“Your friend should be fired! Your friend shared confidential information about a patient. Your friend broke HIPPA laws. Your friend invented the patient is having an abortion. She has no way of knowing what the patient is scheduled for in the OR . Your friend should not be on the nursing staff during the patient’s abortion, since she knows the patient personally. You broke HIPPA laws because you told us, Casey, that some place a lady is scheduled to abort her child.”

Casey continues to stand there in the room, the room where she thought she could find an answer “What is the right thing to do? We prayed. Is there anything else we can do?”

She looks around the room, a little confused about all the negative statements that feel more like attacks than prayerful, helpful advise. Is this the right room? Yes, there’s a picture of St. Maximilian Kolbe and his quote: “A single act of love makes the soul return to life.” She knows she can find love in this room.

People keep grilling Casey that there is no way the friend knows the patient is having an abortion. Casey only knows what the friend said. The friend didn’t give Casey details. Maybe the friend knows “When Dr. Kermit is in the hospital, we all know he’s here for abortions.” Someone else shares other stories about how to read an OR schedule, still insisting that the friend can have no idea if its an abortion.

The room swirls with “attacks”. We even now have friends saying, “What if a freak accident leaves the mother dead during the abortion and its on the news.” Well, now Casey sees a news story on the tv, just like all of us . Maybe Casey will know that’s the mother and child she prayed for this morning.

Mothers are harmed by accidents on the abortion table all the time, not isolated “freak accidents”. Many abortionists don’t have hospital admitting privileges. Some abortion mill websites in the FAQ say: “Do not go to an emergency room if you have complications. Call us.” If an accident occurs in their mill, sometimes they call an ambulance and sometimes they have the patient ride in her personal car to the ER.

continued in another post…

 

[RoseMary131]

… continuation of my above message and the tale as if this post were from a prayer meeting at my parish…

Prayer Group at St. Michael’s

One very sad reality is that in this patient’s situation she is in a better place to abort her child than in most abortion mills. All abortion is horrible. The conditions that the US government allows abortion mills to be so lowly maintain is horrific. If women are going to have legal surgical abortions, these mills need to be maintain at the same level as other surgical centers. They are not. Pro-life law makers are working on laws to make our government protect these women who abort their babies with laws regulating the health standards of abortion mills.

For a woman to be able to abort in a hospital, at least when the abortionist perforates her womb, she has a quicker chance of being treated by an emergency doctor who can save her life.

Casey looks around the room at the comforting posters. “Not my will, but thou will, be done.” She sees the crucifix and has comfort once more. She looks at the poster of the priest elevating Christ in the Eucharist. She sees a quote from Abraham Lincoln: “With charity for all”.

She hears more conversations. "Your friend should be sacked!

"Your friend has ruined it for the Pro-Life cause because the liberal news might write ‘Pro-Life Catholics share information that abortion is performed in a hospital. An unnamed worker in an unknown job at an unknown hospital in an unknown location asked if she could do anything except pray for an unnamed patient who prepared to undergo an abortion. The worker saw an acquaintance’s name on the OR schedule and was distraught with the thought this mother would suffer an abortion.’

Some people speak up saying to their friends, “Casey is asking us how to deal with murder in the medical community. Casey wants to know what do we do when someone we know is about to abort their child.”

Sarcasm is heard, “Call the police and report murder… accept its legal… but Casey you and your friend broke the HIPPA law by saying some lady is having an abortion. You don’t even know if it is an abortion and you want us to help you to know what to do.”

Yes, HIPPA laws protect patient confidentiality. Lets get laws protecting mothers in abortion mills by regulating the abortion industry like other surgical centers. Lets even work for laws to make abortion illegal.

What can each of us do daily for the Gospel of Life?

Have we been so ingrained by our US government laws that when someone asks us for help we attack them? Can our hearts not ache for those we accidentally notice are in danger that we can not ask “Is there more that I can do?” Does our laws take away our compassion?

Did God place Casey’s friend in the place and time so that she accidentally saw this woman’s name?

It is okay to say, “Casey, sadly you and your friend know that the mother’s name can not be known to anyone. However, if God happens to place your dear friend in the mother’s path today, trust that God will provide the right timing and the right words to the mother. Just as God guides the words of those who prayerfully gather outside of the abortion mills, He will guide your friend if He puts their paths together today.”

As hours pass, another friend mentions that the point is moot since its been over 6 hours and most likely the procedure is complete.

This is not a moot point, we use today to ready ourselves even more in the battle of evil, in the battle of abortion.

We all need to be able to comfort anyone on the subject of abortion. It may be 1 in 4 women you pass has had an abortion… that includes those sitting in the pews at Mass. The number of people one abortion affects is huge. Boyfriends, husbands, parents, grandparents, friends - anyone who encouraged, forced, or walked beside the mother - anyone who helped in any way with an abortion is highly affected.

There is much hope. Christ forgives this sin. The hardest part for most post abortive mothers and fathers is forgiving themselves.

We need to know where a mother and father in a crisis pregnancy can receive love and free help. Do you know where the Crisis Pregnancy Center in your town is located?

Invite your parish to collect baby items to donate to the Pregnancy Center.

Have a list of places mothers and father (anyone affected by abortion) can receive help in post abortion healing.

When a friend walks up to you and shares a story like Casey did with us, speak to her with love and kindness. Comfort her in her sorrow as she comforted her friend.

People who pray outside of abortion clinics need our prayers and support as well. It is not easy going to such a place of evil and witnessing the destruction of the lives of the babies and the lives of the mother.

Just as those prayer warriors need us to support them in their volunteer witnessing of the Gospel of Life, so too, do our friends like Casey who did not expect to hear such a distressing call from her friend.

Let us support Casey - and all those who find themselves in her shoes - with love, not attacks.

Our Lady of Guadalupe ~ Patroness of the Unborn ~ Pray for us.

 

[maryjk]

She shares with us that her dear friend has called her in a state of distress. This dear friend has noticed by accident, that someone she knows is scheduled to abort her dear child today. Casey and her friend pray for this mother and child. Casey wants to know from us is there anything her friend can do to help this poor abortion-minded mother.

Casey and her friend are very aware of the delicate nature of this issue and aware of the need to keep anything about this woman in utmost confidence. Having not been in this situation before, there is a question on what can the friend do to assist this poor mother.

And we tell dear sister Casey that there is no way to know for sure that this woman is having an abortion.

And the only thing she can do is pray.

Confronting someone about a medical procedure of which she should know nothing about, is wrong. Assuming that someone is having an abortion is wrong. And telling other people that they “know someone having an abortion,” is wrong.

 

[RoseMary131]

And we tell dear sister Casey that there is no way to know for sure that this woman is having an abortion.

And the only thing she can do is pray.

Confronting someone about a medical procedure of which she should know nothing about, is wrong. Assuming that someone is having an abortion is wrong. And telling other people that they “know someone having an abortion,” is wrong.

We do not know why the hospital worker said the person is schedule to have an abortion.

It could be based on who the doctor was - and knowing the doctor is only at that hospital for abortions. It could be based on a number of things, but for the sake of this discussion, lets assume it is an abortion and how to know if God is calling us to do more than pray.

Yes, most likely all she can do is pray.

Confronting someone is not the only thing that might be a possibility.

I place myself in all the “what-ifs”. “What if” I was the hospital worker and I noticed that someone I knew was scheduled for what I thought was an abortion or what I knew was an abortion.

I would pray and let God know that if He could use me today, that I will be a voice for the Gospel of Life. I can feel right now, the internal shaking I would feel at that moment. A shaking that others wouldn’t notice but that I would feel.

How would I do what God wants me to do? I don’t know, but I would recognize it when that moment arose. What if I noticed I was near this patient, I would pray more.

I would be aware of every step God lead me on. I would notice where my work sent me and when I was approaching the patient… if my only words as we passed… passed any place… were “God bless you”… then I would know I had done the work God sent me on.

If we were to pass and more was exchanged in our greetings to each other, I would be very aware of every syllable she spoke to me. God would show me exactly where a word she spoke would give me an opening to what ever He called me to say.

I would do nothing in malice, nothing to harm, nothing that could be felt as confronting or attacking.

God would lead me how to speak and how to act. I would notice every moment and word of both of us. Afterwards, I most likely would not even be able to tell you what exactly I said.

So, I would actually go from being keenly aware of words and actions, to not remembering what exactly I spoke. I know this because of my experience in unexpectedly encountering abortion minded couples and in experience in speaking with those who are outside of the abortion mill.

Yes, this case is different as it takes place in a medical facility and would be between a worker and a patient. I know how God has worked in my life and can “imagine” how this scene might play out in my life if I were in that situation.

God can use us in many ways - ways that allows us to follow the rules and laws - and at the same time - help one of His children in need.

We will never know why Casey’s friend called this an abortion. The most hopeful case is that the mother did not seek an abortion. Yet, her friend also wants to be prepared for if this happens again.

We can make statements for her friend that the patient’s name must always remain confidential and is never shared with anyone. We can do that with love. Her friend is distressed about seeing something she is not expecting. Casey is distressed because of her friend’s needs.

Casey was attacked on this thread and she meant no malice.

 

[maryjk]

We do not know why the hospital worker said the person is schedule to have an abortion.

It could be based on who the doctor was - and knowing the doctor is only at that hospital for abortions. It could be based on a number of things, but for the sake of this discussion, **lets assume it is an abortion **and how to know if God is calling us to do more than pray.

Let me just say, that I am glad others don’t just assume it is an abortion.

 

[epan]

Hi, everyone. Received a distressed phone call from a friend this morning. She works at a hospital and totally by accident she saw the O.R. list for today and noticed that an acquaintance was booked for an abortion. Confidentiality is a big thing to breach; does one breach it in this instance? Can she seek out this woman after looking at a list that she wasn’t privy to look at? We’ve been praying hard all morning. What more can be done? :bighanky:

Your friend should reconsider her choice of employers, if she is so lax with issues of confidentiality. I can assure you, that if her superiors find out about her conversation with you, then they will assist her in making the decision to leave her job.

 

[Julian_Bashir]

Your friend should reconsider her choice of employers, if she is so lax with issues of confidentiality. I can assure you, that if her superiors find out about her conversation with you, then they will assist her in making the decision to leave her job.

Possibly true, but the broader point is if we come to possess information of a mortal interest, regardless of whether or not we should have it, how do we respond?

Again, if you eavesdrop (and immoral act) and find out a woman is planning on killing her husband, how do you respond? Say as Catholics we are only concerned with just laws, I’d saw the response is going to be the same when dealing with abortion.

However, as Mary said, we do not know for sure if she was having an abortion in this case.

 

[RoseMary131]

by maryjk: It is a good thing we have privacy laws. Otherwise my entire parish could know I had a D&C last year. Oh, my, I had heavy periods. That must mean I had an abortion.

Dearest MaryJK,

I am sorry that you have experienced health problems that lead to the D&C procedure last year.

Casey is not telling a name in her message asking for advice. She did not announce a name to her whole parish or to us. She didn’t announce a name of a patient or an employee at the hospital. We don’t even know if Casey knows the patient’s name. Casey’s friend had a private conversation with her… maybe not even revealing the patient’s name. All we know is a situation ----- no names. No one shared a person’s name with an entire parish.

So, if for example you were the acquaintance listed on the OR schedule and Casey’s friend was so distraught that she thought you were having an abortion and she called Casey and never mentioned your name or any way to identify you… your entire parish does not know that you had a D&C. Your entire parish does not know you have heavy periods. No one is told you had an abortion. Your name is not mentioned to your parish.

We are to help one another along the road of the Gospel of Life with love not sarcasm. If you want to express this same idea you can do so without this harsh manner to Casey.

“Dear Casey, Hopefully your friend is having a procedure in the OR that is not an abortion. I had a D&C last year for heavy periods. Maybe the patient has a similar problem and is not having an abortion. I would be upset if anyone thought my D&C for heavy periods was an abortion. I will pray with you for this patient. Please make sure her name is not shared with anyone.”

It could be based on who the doctor was - and knowing the doctor is only at that hospital for abortions. It could be based on a number of things, but for the sake of this discussion, lets assume it is an abortion and how to know if God is calling us to do more than pray.

Let me just say, that I am glad others don’t just assume it is an abortion.

I am sorry that I offended you and made you mad (emoti-con). I did not say that we should walk around assuming women (who have procedures in the OR) are having abortions.

My assumption is for the sake of this discussion in how to deal with the situation that Casey gave us and asked for advice.

We can all say… “WE don’t know the patient scheduled for the OR is having an abortion”. We can follow that same thought over and over and never offer Casey advice for her friend because we don’t believe a patient is having an abortion. However, we CAN ASSUME for the sake of the discussion that the patient is having an abortion AND how can we offer advice to Casey.

If we only refuse the possible idea the patient is having an abortion, we can’t offer suggestions.

When we accept the possibility or assume the situation to be true… then we can offer advice.

I sent links that might be helpful to someone who might encounter an abortion-minded mother or a post abortive mother or father. I sent them because there is a high possibility that Casey’s friend might find help in them for today or the future. Knowledge on abortion minded mothers and post abortion syndrome is important and I thought these link might be insightful to her or anyone reading.

When we, as people of the Gospel of Life, spend so much time bickering amongst ourselves… we weaken our brothers and sisters, we weaken ourselves, we weaken our work towards Life. We can offer sound advice without using sarcasm or being mean.

Look how much was spent telling Casey that her friend is “bad.” Casey’s friend’s heart must have been broken when she saw what meant to her: “Someone I know is aborting their precious baby today. I am right here in this moment of sorrow and evil. I will pray, but is there any thing I can do more to help this poor mother?”

May we all find peaceful ways to daily walk with each other in the Gospel of Life.

 

[Viki63]

If aborting a fetus is truly the moral equivalent of murdering a toddler, I can’t believe there would be any discussion about privacy before rushing to stop it.

I can only surmise that they aren’t really the same, even to people who are pro-life.

I believe they are the same. But just as slavery, an obvious evil, was not overturned overnight by people attacking slave owners, abortion must be removed by changing society. Hopefully we will not need to fight a Civil War over it either.
Abortion is legal. Stopping one abortion by force will not prevent the next one, it will merely put you in jail, where you can’t provide for your family or fulfill your other obligations.
And if you stop an abortion, the mother may just go to another facility to have it done. It is not like preventing the murder of a toddler, which can then be placed with social services for protection if need be.
Sad though it is, the hospital worker could not have said anything to her acquaintance, without risking the loss of her job. She could only pray for her.

 

[Rence]

Hi, everyone. Received a distressed phone call from a friend this morning. She works at a hospital and totally by accident she saw the O.R. list for today and noticed that an acquaintance was booked for an abortion. Confidentiality is a big thing to breach; does one breach it in this instance? Can she seek out this woman after looking at a list that she wasn’t privy to look at? We’ve been praying hard all morning. What more can be done? :bighanky:

No, you cannot breach it in this instance, unless you want to lose your job, incur a fine and/or go to jail. No, she absolutely cannot seek out this woman, not without losing her job, incurring a fine, and/or going to jail. Nothing more can be done but to pray for this woman. And anyway, just because your friend “accidentally” saw that this acquaintance was booked for ‘an abortion’ does not mean she was getting an abortion. Stay away from her. She’ll end up shamefully fired one day, and you don’t want to get dragged down with her. I can’t even imagine someone calling someone on the phone to gossip about a patient.

 

[Rence]

Possibly true, but the broader point is if we come to possess information of a mortal interest, regardless of whether or not we should have it, how do we respond?

You don’t respond to the patient at all whatsoever. As for responding to the OP’s friend, she should tell her not to violate patient’s rights and mind her own business.

Again, if you eavesdrop (and immoral act) and find out a woman is planning on killing her husband, how do you respond? Say as Catholics we are only concerned with just laws, I’d saw the response is going to be the same when dealing with abortion.

It’s not the same, and if you think it’s the same don’t work in healthcare where you can stumble on someone else’s medical information by “accident”.

One isn’t going to win any brownie points with the Vatican by breaking the law because you can’t do bad in order to do good. It doesn’t work that way.

However, as Mary said, we do not know for sure if she was having an abortion in this case.

Another reason to do one’s job, in the manner it’s expected to be performed, and mind one’s own business.

 

[severus68]

Possibly true, but the broader point is if we come to possess information of a mortal interest, regardless of whether or not we should have it, how do we respond?

Again, if you eavesdrop (and immoral act) and find out a woman is planning on killing her husband, how do you respond? Say as Catholics we are only concerned with just laws, I’d saw the response is going to be the same when dealing with abortion.

However, as Mary said, we do not know for sure if she was having an abortion in this case.

Do we then go to abortion clinics and use force to stop abortions?

 

[RoseMary131]

Do we then go to abortion clinics and use force to stop abortions?

As Pro-Life People: We pray peacefully outside abortion mills. We softly ask mothers if they would like any help. We invited them for free ultrasounds and free baby items at local Pregnancy Centers. We offer the mothers who abort their babies information where they can find healing after their abortion such as with Project Rachel.

Project Rachel hopeafterabortion.com/

May I invite all of you to participate in the upcoming International 40 Days for Life campaign, praying peacefully outside abortion mills (or city halls, etc. in cities blessed enough not to have an abortion mill), and praying from home and fasting. Sept. 25 - Nov. 3.

40 Days for Life 40daysforlife.com/

 

[RoseMary131]

Stay away from her. She’ll end up shamefully fired one day, and you don’t want to get dragged down with her. I can’t even imagine someone calling someone on the phone to gossip about a patient.

Dearest Renace,

Casey’s dear friend did not call her on the phone to gossip about a patient.

Casey’s friend was in distress, a very real emotion and she needed prayers. She called Casey out of a true concern for a woman. We have no idea if she shared the woman’s name. What we know is, Casey’s friend was emotionally upset and needed prayers since she believed someone she knew was about to abort her precious child.

It says the friend was suffering a heartache…not calling for gossip time.

When we have a friend that hurts, we do not turn our back to them. Telling Casey to stay away from a friend who was hurting because she believe an acquaintance would experience the loss of her child through abortion is not a Christian attitude.

Maybe one day this friend is fired, hopefully none of our friends experience being fired. Being fired does not always mean shame. Being friends with a person who is fired does not mean “they will drag you down”. Maybe their prayers together will help them as they live the Gospel of Life in the world.

We need to work to build up the Body of Christ, not run away from one another when we hear a friend is in distress about the sadness of a possible abortion. We comfort our friends and help them find other spiritual help from a priest or pastor.

May we all find a way to share the Gospel of Life in Peace with each other.

 

[Julian_Bashir]

Do we then go to abortion clinics and use force to stop abortions?

Who said anything about stopping them? As I already posted once, sidewalk counselors talk to women going into clinics with the endorsement of the Diocese. They do not forcibly stop women. They give them advice, implore them, and pray with them.

Again, if we believe abortion is murder (which we do), I don’t really see much difference. If she wants to discuss it with her friend, that is between them. You can’t say it is different than if she had found out her friend was going to kill her husband, without explaining how it is different, since the Church make no such distinction.

You can say the Church does not endorse snooping, which I agree with, but once the information is out there, it becomes a lot more dicey. And that is what we are dealing with. Saying “she shouldn’t be in the profession she is in” is avoiding the fact that she already has the information (so she thinks). It is a little late for that advice, however valid it is in the future.

 

[asd72]

Dearest Renace,

Casey’s dear friend did not call her on the phone to gossip about a patient.

Casey’s friend was in distress, a very real emotion and she needed prayers. She called Casey out of a true concern for a woman. We have no idea if she shared the woman’s name. What we know is, Casey’s friend was emotionally upset and needed prayers since she believed someone she knew was about to abort her precious child.

It says the friend was suffering a heartache…not calling for gossip time.

When we have a friend that hurts, we do not turn our back to them. Telling Casey to stay away from a friend who was hurting because she believe an acquaintance would experience the loss of her child through abortion is not a Christian attitude.

Maybe one day this friend is fired, hopefully none of our friends experience being fired. Being fired does not always mean shame. Being friends with a person who is fired does not mean “they will drag you down”. Maybe their prayers together will help them as they live the Gospel of Life in the world.

We need to work to build up the Body of Christ, not run away from one another when we hear a friend is in distress about the sadness of a possible abortion. We comfort our friends and help them find other spiritual help from a priest or pastor.

May we all find a way to share the Gospel of Life in Peace with each other.

Her friend has seriously violated a patients privacy. The OP has not done anything wrong. I hope the OP advises her friend that she needs to be prepared to lose her job if she tries to intercede. She is best to work in an organisation that does not perform abortion if she is going to disregard privacy obligations like she has done.