How to live in Mortal Sin

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Mr. Friscus, if you’re still out there, I hope this demonstrates why you should simply go to confession instead of trying to figure out and define everything. The above disaster is exactly what happens when a committee is formed to get to the bottom of an issue. Pure confusion. Just get to confession. Jesus desires to abide with and in you, even though you are a terrible sinner. Don’t deprive Him.
 
So while the Church teaches that dying in a state of mortal sin sends you to hell, you can never know who dies in a state of mortal sin and so we can hope that a suicide or anyone else had their chance to reach perfect contrition.
Very well said!

Look it, we all have to examine our conscience, and one of the things we’re examining is our subjective guilt.

It’s not enough to simply say, “Well, I committed this act, so it must be a mortal sin.” There’s more to it than just that, beause there is more to mortal sin than committing a gravely immoral act: there’s knowledge and consent as well.

But again, someone who dies subjectively guilty of mortal sin cannot be saved. It’s just that the Church never presumes to know whether or not a particular individual was subjectively guilty of unrepentant sin at the time of their death.

… but on the theoretical level, she is quite sure that someone in that state would go to hell.

I think this is all quite clear and basic. 🙂
 
Very well said!

Look it, we all have to examine our conscience, and one of the things we’re examining is our subjective guilt.

It’s not enough to simply say, “Well, I committed this act, so it must be a mortal sin.” There’s more to it than just that, beause there is more to mortal sin than committing a gravely immoral act: there’s knowledge and consent as well.

But again, someone who dies subjectively guilty of mortal sin cannot be saved. It’s just that the Church never presumes to know whether or not a particular individual was subjectively guilty of unrepentant sin at the time of their death.

… but on the theoretical level, she is quite sure that someone in that state would go to hell.

I think this is all quite clear and basic. 🙂
Whoops, the disaster continues.
 
First off, I want to thank you guys for replying to my post of woe.

I very much appreciate the words of encouragement, but it’s not as if I’m trying to figure this out myself as you suggest. The church has laid out what is, has it not?

You either are, or are not in mortal sin… correct?

And leaning on possible excuses to explain away the sin isn’t a healthy practice for human behavior, would you agree?

I certainly need help. However, I refuse (and I think the Catholic church would refuse) to admit that I’m in a place where I need not worry.

I do need to worry. I need to be afraid, and I am afraid. There is a warmth to God regarding love, grace, and mercy, but there’s also what some might call a “coldness” as far as judgement and rejection from heaven, which is possible for anybody. Fearing God is a healthy practice, it can’t all be warm and fuzzy.

I know God is there for me, He hasn’t given up on me. I’ve given up on Him. I’ve harmed my own relationship with Him. I can’t control my life. I have obvious character issues, as far as being a productive Catholic, and spreading the grace that I’ve been given. Will I go to Confession? Yes, I think I will, for the first time in months. However, how long will I be saved from hell before I mortally sin again? This whole latest experience I had has certainly calmed me down a bit, but then again, I’m struggling in many aspects of my life. I’m depressed, I’m an unproductive person, I don’t even have the desire to take good care of myself. All of those point to a lacking… not receiving God’s grace, having a lack of respect for the body God has given me, not having ambition or a wish to change things… feeling hopeless.

Such a thing can be the product of inward brain function, but can also be simple habitual thinking, which I’m known to have.

Is there something wrong with knowing that if you don’t change, you very well might go to hell? Sometimes, I think we’re too easy on ourselves and others… don’t you agree?
No, no, no! You are NOT to determine for yourself by reading the Catechism if you, in your particular case, are going to hell. No, no, no!!!

Go to your confessor and stop thinking of yourself as being unforgivable, etc. That idea is a lie straight from Satan himself.

If you have physical or mental difficulties that make it hard for you to resist sin, then you are NOT culpable of that sin. You are being overly scrupulous–scrupulosity is damaging to your heart, mind, and soul. Let it go, for the sake of your soul, for this is doing far more damage than the sin you think you are guilty of since it is stopping you from seeking the sacraments and the help you need.

See your confessor and do what he tells you and believe what he tells you and stop second-guessing your eternal destination and taking your spiritual temperature. Let your confessor tell you what state you are in and what you need to do. Do that now!
 
Are you trying to say that you’re under the impression the OP is not repentant? Do you not recognize that this is a soul reaching out for help? Does it make you feel better to try to make it abundantly clear that the OP has no relationship with God at the present time? I would love to debate this point with you, but can it be in a separate thread? Can’t there be at least ONE discussion where we try to be helpful to someone in need rather than being like the ones who objected to Jesus healing on the Sabbath?
I do not know the OPs soul. It brings me no pleasure at all to think of someone not having a relationship with God.

Nonetheless IF the OP is conscious of a mortal sin, the way for them to come to God’s Mercy is by repentance and trust. Thinking that mortal sin can coexist with Heaven or Purgatory or a state of grace, can lessen contrition. Also it is simply not true.

In a soul in mortal sin, God continues to act through actual graces, but He is not indwelling the soul through sanctifying grace. This is because He cannot be united to sin. This state of sin cannot lead to Heaven. BUT - if the person repents, God joyfully forgives as the Father in the parable of the Prodigal Son.

We need to trust in God’s Mercy. I am trying to encourage the OP towards that. But we don’t need to, should not need to, excuse our sins to do this. Rather, we face them and repent humbly.

If the OP did not have perfect consent, then it would be a venial sin. This is something to discuss with a confessor, I am not stating if the OP is in a state of grace or not, but responding to what was described in the original post.

All this is simply the Church teaching… You are speaking as if to have confidence we need to limit the reality of sins effects on us. God’s Mercy is such that He would forgive even after a grievous thing like mortal sin. The more we see its effects, the more apparent it becomes how incredibly merciful God is. It takes more mercy to forgive someone who has broken the relationship
Yet God forgives. That is our hope and trust - that nothing is big enough for His Mercy.
 
Dearest Brother in Christ,
I tried to respond in the Spirit. It wouldn’t go through. I did send one short prayer and scripture verse. That made it. But another try, failed.
So, one more time. Holy Spirit guide me and Mr. Friscus. Dear Lord, you know all your children and the state of our souls. Psalm 54 guides us to pray, "CREATE , IN ME, A CLEAN HEART, OH LORD. " Jeremiah 29/11 " I HAVE A PLAN FOR YOU, my son Mr. Friscus., IT IS A GOOD PLAN WITHOUT EVIL. IT HAS A FUTURE AND A PURPOSE. ". You are not in His plan for you. There is joy and fulfillment in walking in His plan. You think your sin is so satisfying. But, when you get to the mountain top…What freedom. " HE WHO THE SON SETS FREE IS FREE INDEED. ". You are in bondage. Manacles are around your soul. You are a slave to Satan. If you have a mistress you are keeping her from finding her walk with Jesus. "YOUR TRADITIONS AND HOLOCOSTS ARE AN ABOMINATION TO ME. WHAT I WANT IS THE CIRCUMCISION OF YOUR HEART. "
"I AM A JEALOUS GOD, PLACE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME. "
Read Ephesians Chapter 3: 14 to 21. Paul prays for the church to feel the total love of God. Please read it.
In Jesus name,
Amen
Knowing the prayers will work soon
Tweedlealice
 
It’s very difficult, and not something I would advise anyone to do.

However, I just can’t help myself.

It separates me from God. It has stopped me from going to weekly Confession. I can’t in good conscious continue to take confession for granted, and say I intend to sin no more when I know I can’t control myself, and I won’t be able to fulfill my promise, nor will I even try. I actively seek the sinful behavior, and I have a proven disconnect between what my soul wants and what my body desires.



We are all sinners, but I feel my issue is beyond that line. I’m a defeated man. I don’t seek God like I used to because of this. I don’t pray every night. I don’t pray to Mary as often.

However, when I do pray, I beg that even though I knowingly and maliciously sin, that He may remember me, just as Barrabus did next to Jesus on the cross. I need to go to Confession, but like I said, how do I make a promise I know I cannot keep?



I’m a slave to sin, it’s a viscious cycle. Being sinful harms my relationship with God, and my disconnected relationship with God allows me to more easily sin.
You have taken responsibility for your actions, now you must make a choice to turn away from them. You are going to have to get back in a state of grace as soon as possible if you even hope to make progress. If you are true in what you say above, that you don’t intend to stop sinning, then you have been taking confession for granted and have been invalidating your confessions. You must have the intent to not commit the sins if you really hope to have sufficient contrition/attrition to receive the Sacrament validly.

Now, it isn’t necessary to ‘know’ that you won’t commit the sin again - something which is impossible. It isn’t a problem to realize that you are weak and could fall again. But, you must have the firm resolution to never commit the (mortal) sins again. To assume that God will heed your prayer to forgive you though you do not repent is mere presumption on His mercy and a grievous sin itself. There will be no forgiveness without repentance - for God to forgive as such would not be mercy, but rather a want of justice (and God is both perfect in His justice and in His mercy). So, therefore, repent that you may be saved.

You are going to have to build up your will. You should start praying the Rosary every day, if possible, (as if your life, nay your soul, depended on it) begging our Lady to intercede for you for the graces to repent and persevere. You should probably sit down with a faithful priest and discuss your issues with him, get his advice and insight on how to get back on track (he will be able to advise you in your specific circumstances). You are going to have to avoid, as you are able, the occasions of sin (especially the near occasions of sin, which you are obligated under pain of mortal sin to avoid if possible) You should start doing some small penances and mortifications; spend a short time under the cold water when you shower, pray the Rosary with your arms outstretched (in the form of a cross), deny yourself small lawful pleasures, fast - though being careful not to damage your health. These things fortify your will on a natural level because you must deny your natural inclination (to avoid pain and seek pleasure) to do them and if done in a spirit of contrition and penance is very pleasing to God.

God loves you, as He loves us all, and He desires our salvation more than we ourselves do. So make no mistake that the grace is there to conquer sin. Our Lord suffered at the hands of sinners out of love for us; He bore the agony in the garden, to the point of sweating blood, He was scourged, crowned with thorns, beaten, spit upon, mocked, forced to carry His own cross, then crucified. I would exhort you not to turn away from Christ, who died for you, nor to grow despondent, but rather to turn to Him in faith and submit yourself to His will. It is only in Him that we find true happiness, not in the pleasure of vice which lasts for such a short time. What is this when facing an eternity of Hell? Moreover, what is this when compared to the Vision of God which only those who love God shall see? Indeed, from my experience, vice is often repugnant even while it is giving you pleasure. You would do well to meditate on this; all the riches and pleasures in the world are as nothing when compared to eternity.
How do you guys do it?
You will it… In the end, you must make a choice; to serve God or to serve your base passions, as if you were a mere brute beast. One will lead to Heaven if we persevere in a state of Grace while the other will most certainly lead to Hell if you persevere in impenitence until the end. You must not be divided in this, and you must do everything in your power to build up your will to resist temptation when it comes. Most importantly, you must pray for the grace to persevere, because without grace we can do nothing.

“Return into your heart, O sinners and cleave to Him who has made you. Stand with Him, and you shall stand firmly; be at rest in Him, and you shall be rested. Where are you going into the rough places? Where are you going? The good which you love is from Him. But, it is only in relation to Him that it is good and sweet. It will be bitter, and justly so, for whatever is from Him is not loved justly, if one abandons Him. What is your goal in walking on and on, through difficult and toilsome ways? There is no rest where you are seeking it. Seek what you are seeking, but it is not where you are seeking. You are seeking the happy life in the area of death; it is not there. For, how could a happy life be found where there is not even life at all?” - St. Augustine, Confessions Book IV Chapter XII
 
Whoops, the disaster continues.
I have read your posts in this thread and I advise you to cease spilling your poison out upon whatever hapless soul might read your posts. Some of the content of your posts is dangerous, heretical, and completely contrary to the constant teaching of the Church and every Saint through the ages. You will not find a single Saint that agrees with your statements that ‘mortal sin does not destroy your relationship with God.’ at least understood in the way you seem to be articulating it. A single mortal sin does destroy your relationship with God, because it drives out sanctifying/habitual grace, without which we are actually an enemy of God and we will not enter Heaven but rather Hell will be our abode. Now, God still loves us and desires our repentance even in this state of mortal sin, but nevertheless, if one were to die in state of mortal sin, he would immediately go to Hell - forever, end of story. To say otherwise is contrary to the teachings of the Church founded with all authority by Jesus Christ Himself, and is heresy.

So, for the sake of your soul and the souls of those reading your posts, please stop.
 
One more thing, Mr. Friscus: do not despair!

I shall pray for you.

Pax Domini
 
I have read your posts in this thread and I advise you to cease spilling your poison out upon whatever hapless soul might read your posts. Some of the content of your posts is dangerous, heretical, and completely contrary to the constant teaching of the Church and every Saint through the ages. You will not find a single Saint that agrees with your statements that ‘mortal sin does not destroy your relationship with God.’ at least understood in the way you seem to be articulating it. A single mortal sin does destroy your relationship with God, because it drives out sanctifying/habitual grace, without which we are actually an enemy of God and we will not enter Heaven but rather Hell will be our abode. Now, God still loves us and desires our repentance even in this state of mortal sin, but nevertheless, if one were to die in state of mortal sin, he would immediately go to Hell - forever, end of story. To say otherwise is contrary to the teachings of the Church founded with all authority by Jesus Christ Himself, and is heresy.

So, for the sake of your soul and the souls of those reading your posts, please stop.
As I and others have stated, the OP is in no position to determine himself that he is objectively in the state of mortal sin, and as I have stated repeatedly, he needs to go to confession rather than sitting around despairing that his relationship with God is over and he is going to hell. If you think this is heretical, it is you spreading poison, not me.
 
I have read your posts in this thread and I advise you to cease spilling your poison out upon whatever hapless soul might read your posts. Some of the content of your posts is dangerous, heretical, and completely contrary to the constant teaching of the Church and every Saint through the ages. You will not find a single Saint that agrees with your statements that ‘mortal sin does not destroy your relationship with God.’ at least understood in the way you seem to be articulating it. A single mortal sin does destroy your relationship with God, because it drives out sanctifying/habitual grace, without which we are actually an enemy of God and we will not enter Heaven but rather Hell will be our abode. Now, God still loves us and desires our repentance even in this state of mortal sin, but nevertheless, if one were to die in state of mortal sin, he would immediately go to Hell - forever, end of story. To say otherwise is contrary to the teachings of the Church founded with all authority by Jesus Christ Himself, and is heresy.

So, for the sake of your soul and the souls of those reading your posts, please stop.
Yes this is indeed the Church teaching…
 
As I and others have stated, the OP is in no position to determine himself that he is objectively in the state of mortal sin, and as I have stated repeatedly, he needs to go to confession rather than sitting around despairing that his relationship with God is over and he is going to hell. If you think this is heretical, it is you spreading poison, not me.
We are not against you saying that the OP should speak to a priest. What we are objecting to is the general statement that mortal sin doesn’t break ones relationship with God, because the Church clearly says that it does, because it takes the soul out of sanctifying grace. This doesn’t mean a person in mortal sin is to despair, rather pray for contrition and trust in God’s Mercy. As for the OP, if he is not planning on leaving sins of grave matter, then he would be in mortal sin, but I don’t know his thoughts and I can’t read his soul. He would need to speak to a good priest about that. 🙂
 
I went to confession yesterday and asked the priest to explain to me mortal sins, he said that it would increase my scrupulosity and that any teaching that is not based on God’s Mercy is not a Christian teaching. After confession, the scrupulosity in me made me ask him if I could take Communion, he said that I could have done that even before confession and this priest is no ordinary one, he is specialized in these matters and told me to stop visiting any website that preaches that God is not Mercy.

And of course, after the Mass, I run into another priest, and the same story all over again, I fear that they will kick me out if continue with asking about these matters.

Bottom line, Jesus is not bound to our rules when he judges us, other Christians do not have confession, He won’t throw them in hell just like that, He performs miracles on atheists and non Christians, His ways are beyond our 3 dimensional understanding, He is the the absolute Being.

I really hope that a priest gives a definitive answer and closes this thread.
 
I went to confession yesterday and asked the priest to explain to me mortal sins, he said that it would increase my scrupulosity and that any teaching that is not based on God’s Mercy is not a Christian teaching. After confession, the scrupulosity in me made me ask him if I could take Communion, he said that I could have done that even before confession and this priest is no ordinary one, he is specialized in these matters and told me to stop visiting any website that preaches that God is not Mercy.

And of course, after the Mass, I run into another priest, and the same story all over again, I fear that they will kick me out if continue with asking about these matters.

Bottom line, Jesus is not bound to our rules when he judges us, other Christians do not have confession, He won’t throw them in hell just like that, He performs miracles on atheists and non Christians, His ways are beyond our 3 dimensional understanding, He is the the absolute Being.

I really hope that a priest gives a definitive answer and closes this thread.
Jesus already gave the definitive answer. We don’t need to argue.
 
Mr. Friscus, if you’re still out there, I hope this demonstrates why you should simply go to confession instead of trying to figure out and define everything. The above disaster is exactly what happens when a committee is formed to get to the bottom of an issue. Pure confusion. Just get to confession. Jesus desires to abide with and in you, even though you are a terrible sinner. Don’t deprive Him.
I’m here sir.

Yes, I simply should go to confession. I’ve had a sudden fortunate turn away from my own personal “cardinal sin”, and feel more in control even if I struggle in other areas of my life. Those can exist, my ignoring of major Catholic standards to fulfill pleasures of sin cannot.

It really irritates me how there’s only one or two times I can confess at the churches around me. Saturday afternoon, or Monday evening. I wish confession was more available.

I appreciate your responses, even if, in my love of theology, I think you’re a little fluffy. I think multiple good points have been made in this discussion, and it’s the type of thing I gladly welcome.

You seem reluctant to accept that Catholics who believe and are struggling with sin can go to hell. It’s certainly possible, and it’s spelled out why and how in the cathecism. Did I seal my own judgement? I think I feared, and fear, for my soul, but I did not condemn myself to hell. The list given as far as factors that, as far as we know, can be considered in God’s judgement as far as if you’re in true mortal sin. While they can be considered, they’re something I should never take for granted, or rely on. I might have bad established habits, I might have psychological issues with medications, or massive guilt that clouds me from acting in the way my soul desires… all of othese are “on the list”… but, for stated severe sins in Christinaity, I think it’s important to keep the mindset of not falling into a mental trap of explaining things away, which is a pretty negative aspect of sinful human nature. Hold the standard, and base yourself on the standard. Obey by action, to the best of your ability. If you cannot obey, it’s okay to be in despair and broken, is it not? Such hard times can be “gems”, so said St. Theresa, as far as one’s development in strength of the faith. Sure, it’s risky business, which is why I don’t take it lightly, and I truly fear for my fate. I never assume my judgement. If I don’t mortally sin, I cannot feel entitled to heaven. I can simply be aware of God’s promise, and hope he judges on me with favor.

This debate in the church is ever on-going. Vatican II addressed it, our current Pope is addressing it. Simply following the law is what Jesus preached against to the Jews. However, feelings and emotions are ever so dangerous to us human beings. The warmth can conflict us.

Yes, I did “accuse” you of sounding like a Protestant LOL. I think it’s just a way to say that, in my mere opinion, you sounded as if you weren’t holding me accountable enough for my actions, even if you gave not only words of encouragement, but reminders of the Grace and Mercy of God. I realize you don’t know me, and don’t know what I know. I didn’t reveal them. I know of God’s grace and mercy. I know of God’s promise.

But in one thing you are correct. I was staying away from Confession out of shame, guilt, and probably some reverse ego. Your simple and correct advice to just go there is undeniably true to Catholicism. You’re right on in that one.
 
You have taken responsibility for your actions, now you must make a choice to turn away from them. You are going to have to get back in a state of grace as soon as possible if you even hope to make progress. If you are true in what you say above, that you don’t intend to stop sinning, then you have been taking confession for granted and have been invalidating your confessions. You must have the intent to not commit the sins if you really hope to have sufficient contrition/attrition to receive the Sacrament validly.

Now, it isn’t necessary to ‘know’ that you won’t commit the sin again - something which is impossible. It isn’t a problem to realize that you are weak and could fall again. But, you must have the firm resolution to never commit the (mortal) sins again. To assume that God will heed your prayer to forgive you though you do not repent is mere presumption on His mercy and a grievous sin itself. There will be no forgiveness without repentance - for God to forgive as such would not be mercy, but rather a want of justice (and God is both perfect in His justice and in His mercy). So, therefore, repent that you may be saved.

You are going to have to build up your will. You should start praying the Rosary every day, if possible, (as if your life, nay your soul, depended on it) begging our Lady to intercede for you for the graces to repent and persevere. You should probably sit down with a faithful priest and discuss your issues with him, get his advice and insight on how to get back on track (he will be able to advise you in your specific circumstances). You are going to have to avoid, as you are able, the occasions of sin (especially the near occasions of sin, which you are obligated under pain of mortal sin to avoid if possible) You should start doing some small penances and mortifications; spend a short time under the cold water when you shower, pray the Rosary with your arms outstretched (in the form of a cross), deny yourself small lawful pleasures, fast - though being careful not to damage your health. These things fortify your will on a natural level because you must deny your natural inclination (to avoid pain and seek pleasure) to do them and if done in a spirit of contrition and penance is very pleasing to God.

God loves you, as He loves us all, and He desires our salvation more than we ourselves do. So make no mistake that the grace is there to conquer sin. Our Lord suffered at the hands of sinners out of love for us; He bore the agony in the garden, to the point of sweating blood, He was scourged, crowned with thorns, beaten, spit upon, mocked, forced to carry His own cross, then crucified. I would exhort you not to turn away from Christ, who died for you, nor to grow despondent, but rather to turn to Him in faith and submit yourself to His will. It is only in Him that we find true happiness, not in the pleasure of vice which lasts for such a short time. What is this when facing an eternity of Hell? Moreover, what is this when compared to the Vision of God which only those who love God shall see? Indeed, from my experience, vice is often repugnant even while it is giving you pleasure. You would do well to meditate on this; all the riches and pleasures in the world are as nothing when compared to eternity.

You will it… In the end, you must make a choice; to serve God or to serve your base passions, as if you were a mere brute beast. One will lead to Heaven if we persevere in a state of Grace while the other will most certainly lead to Hell if you persevere in impenitence until the end. You must not be divided in this, and you must do everything in your power to build up your will to resist temptation when it comes. Most importantly, you must pray for the grace to persevere, because without grace we can do nothing.

“Return into your heart, O sinners and cleave to Him who has made you. Stand with Him, and you shall stand firmly; be at rest in Him, and you shall be rested. Where are you going into the rough places? Where are you going? The good which you love is from Him. But, it is only in relation to Him that it is good and sweet. It will be bitter, and justly so, for whatever is from Him is not loved justly, if one abandons Him. What is your goal in walking on and on, through difficult and toilsome ways? There is no rest where you are seeking it. Seek what you are seeking, but it is not where you are seeking. You are seeking the happy life in the area of death; it is not there. For, how could a happy life be found where there is not even life at all?” - St. Augustine, Confessions Book IV Chapter XII
I think it’s safe to say that my will is lacking. And it’s not just in my faith, but in many areas of my life.

However, one is far more important than the others.

Building will isn’t easy. However, it shouldn’t be. I can whine all I want, it gets me nowhere.
 
I went to confession yesterday and asked the priest to explain to me mortal sins, he said that it would increase my scrupulosity and that any teaching that is not based on God’s Mercy is not a Christian teaching. After confession, the scrupulosity in me made me ask him if I could take Communion, he said that I could have done that even before confession and this priest is no ordinary one, he is specialized in these matters and told me to stop visiting any website that preaches that God is not Mercy.

And of course, after the Mass, I run into another priest, and the same story all over again, I fear that they will kick me out if continue with asking about these matters.

Bottom line, Jesus is not bound to our rules when he judges us, other Christians do not have confession, He won’t throw them in hell just like that, He performs miracles on atheists and non Christians, His ways are beyond our 3 dimensional understanding, He is the the absolute Being.

I really hope that a priest gives a definitive answer and closes this thread.
It makes me wonder sometimes if some Priests, and some Catholics, are afraid to simply tell it how it is in fear of driving people away. Such a thing feeds off a persons emotions, and not on simply revealing the demands of the Christian faith. It can even come across as backwards support for not condemning it strongly enough.

I’ve been very surprised at what a few Priests have said to me before in regards to the topic. I think it’s something that will need to be addressed in future councils. It needs clarification in the modern world.
 
It makes me wonder sometimes if some Priests, and some Catholics, are afraid to simply tell it how it is in fear of driving people away. Such a thing feeds off a persons emotions, and not on simply revealing the demands of the Christian faith. It can even come across as backwards support for not condemning it strongly enough.

I’ve been very surprised at what a few Priests have said to me before in regards to the topic. I think it’s something that will need to be addressed in future councils. It needs clarification in the modern world.
And you’re not even going to consider the possibility that it’s YOU that is lacking understanding, rather that the priests? And that it’s you who is afraid to accept the truth of who God is, because you’re feeding your ingrained emotions of self-hatred and guilt that are your “comfort zone”?

If you don’t like being surprised, why even talk to a priest at all? Why not stay in your comfort zone, if you think you already have everything figured out?

There are indeed many demands of the Christian faith. Fear, shame, and guilt are not among them. Neither is a perfectly strong will that is always aligned with God’s. The sacrifice that God demands of us is a broken spirit. That’s why I was so excited by your first post, because I recognized your broken spirit, and it was so clear that you were on the verge of a miracle. But you must cooperate with it. If you try to correct God and convince Him that you don’t in fact deserve to be forgiven, how will you ever, EVER be in a condition to receive grace? By waiting until your will is strong enough to stand up and resist temptation on its own? Good luck with that.

God’s grace is too good to be true. But it’s still true.
 
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