How to re-educate so that people will understand about abortion?

[limerick]

So I presume you are a gun rights advocate?

**A taser is not a gun. I’m a taser rights advocate.

L**

 

[limerick]

Well, taken with the next sentence after the one you quoted I clearly explain why I see it that way.

**
I will not enter into a p*ssing match with you over your poorly-constructed, self-sabotaging post.

Limerick**

 

[royal_archer]

**A taser is not a gun. I’m a taser rights advocate.

L**

What!?

Do you want to take away these women’s right to “Choose” how to defend themselves?

 

[limerick]

What!?

Do you want to take away these women’s right to “Choose” how to defend themselves?

**By choosing a taser, which rarely results in serious injury or death, I do not deprive any woman of the right to choose a conventional firearm, nor am I opposed to a Concealed Carry permit.

If you’re joking** about sexual assault and rape, you may want to consider pushing back from the table to re-evaluate your views on the subject.

Limerick

 

[royal_archer]

**By choosing a taser, which rarely results in serious injury or death, I do not deprive any woman of the right to choose a conventional firearm, nor am I opposed to a Concealed Carry permit.

If you’re joking** about sexual assault and rape, you may want to consider pushing back from the table to re-evaluate your views on the subject.

Limerick

It is unfortunatate that you are showing more compasion to rapist than you have shown to children.

I am not the one joking or being flippant about these topics.

 

[limerick]

It is unfortunatate that you are showing more compasion to rapist than you have shown to children.

I am not the one joking or being flippant about these topics.

**Children are extant. Feti are not children.

I assure you I am not joking about these topics. You are looking for a crack where there is none, so you are trying to create one.

Your post: * “If rapes are this prevalent a re-education program would need to take into consideration more protections for women such as parental escorts when they go on dates.***”

My response: *“More effective than parental escorts: tasers.” * I can only conclude that you were being cavalier with your “parental escorts” remark, as a written response expressing your disbelief at the prevalence of rape today. I responded just as much to your attitude as to what you said. If you were serious about parents escorting their kids on dates, I can only assume you have no adolescent children or, if you do, heaven help them.

Do you think the use of a taser is inspired by compassion?

*“I am not the one joking or being flippant about these topics.” * Maybe that’s not your intention, but that’s how you read.

Limerick

 

[royal_archer]

**Children are extant. Feti are not children.

I assure you I am not joking about these topics. You are looking for a crack where there is none, so you are trying to create one.**

What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a child?

Your post: * "If rapes are this prevalent a re-education program would need to take into consideration more protections for women such as parental escorts when they go on dates.*"

My response: *“More effective than parental escorts: tasers.” * I can only conclude that you were being cavalier with your “parental escorts” remark, as a written response expressing your disbelief at the prevalence of rape today. I responded just as much to your attitude as to what you said. If you were serious about parents escorting their kids on dates, I can only assume you have no adolescent children or, if you do, heaven help them.

I am being quite serious. (although I am not yet convinced rape is that prevalent) the stated ratios would justify someone looking out for the safety of the women.

Do you think the use of a taser is inspired by compassion?

Why else would you choose a taser over a more effective weapon?

***“I am not the one joking or being flippant about these topics.” *** Maybe that’s not your intention, but that’s how you read.

Limerick

I don’t think your responses are representative of someone who takes the murder of millions of children seriously.

 

[limerick]

What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a child?

Not a thing. A fetus is within the womb, a baby is outside the womb. Can you understand that if a carpenter asks for a wrench he’d better ask for the correct one? Oh, “fetus”: singular; “feti”: commonly used to describe more than one, in reproductive work among humans and animals.

I am being quite serious. (although I am not yet convinced rape is that prevalent) the stated ratios would justify someone looking out for the safety of the women.

And women cannot look out for themselves? Do you get it that little girls should be taught self-defense?

Why else would you choose a taser over a more effective weapon?

Most women would likely prefer to stun their target, and enable themselves to escape, rather than kill him. I have no personal preference one way or the other.

I don’t think your responses are representative of someone who takes the murder of millions of children seriously.

**Everything I have written is in accordance with my morals, my experience, my relationship with God as I understand Him. It doesn’t surprise me that you cannot make room for that.

L**

 

[WillieWonka]

Mind if I confuse the issue?

What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a child? Good question.

Here’s another. What exactly is the difference in the DNA makeup of a skin cell that makes it different from a child?

 

[Drawmack]

Many parents do not make that effort.

Know that there ARE public schools where biology is taught as actual biology and where pro abortion ideals are not forced in the classroom. The Bible Belt does have it’s good points!

I don’t know how many parents make that effort, but from my experience I would guess not many.

I live up north and I can tell you that the biology here is scientifically correct biology, I’m not sure what you mean by actual biology. I can also tell you that pro-abortion ideals are not pushed in the classrooms. But, they do not refer to the blastocyst, embryo, or fetus as a baby they use the scientific terms I just mentioned to describe the stages of development.

 

[Drawmack]

So I presume you are a gun rights advocate?

I am! Gun control is hitting your target.

 

[limerick]

Mind if I confuse the issue?

What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a child? Good question.

Here’s another. What exactly is the difference in the DNA makeup of a skin cell that makes it different from a child?

**Is the skin cell a complete child? Or does the DNA found within the skin cell merely represent the child?

Limerick**

 

[WillieWonka]

“Is the skin cell a complete child? Or does the DNA found within the skin cell merely represent the child?”

The DNA is exactly the same in the fetus, child, and skin cell. So, exactly how does the DNA makeup of a skin cell make it different from a child of fetus?

 

[limerick]

“Is the skin cell a complete child? Or does the DNA found within the skin cell merely represent the child?”

The DNA is exactly the same in the fetus, child, and skin cell. So, exactly how does the DNA makeup of a skin cell make it different from a child of fetus?

**I don’t remember reading any post on this thread that suggested that. You’re setting up a pretty long driveway to get to the front door, aren’t you? Let me guess:

DNA of a fetus is the same as it is for the same infant, the same child, the same adolescent, the same adult, the same senior, the same cadaver. Ergo, same should have the same rights. Am I close?

Limerick**

 

[WillieWonka]

“DNA of a fetus is the same as it is for the same infant, the same child, the same adolescent, the same adult, the same senior, the same cadaver. Ergo, same should have the same rights. Am I close?”

Yes. Very close. Don’t forget the DNA is also the same for the skin cell. So, remember, Royal Archer asked, “What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a child?”

And, I ask, “What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a skin cell?”

Does the skin cell have the same rights?

 

[royal_archer]

Originally Posted by royal archer
What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a child?

limerick:

Not a thing. A fetus is within the womb, a baby is outside the womb. Can you understand that if a carpenter asks for a wrench he’d better ask for the correct one? Oh, “fetus”: singular; “feti”: commonly used to describe more than one, in reproductive work among humans and animals.

Oh I get it. Make up a new name and you can marginalize them and use the negative public perception of the term as justification to allow the murder of them.

Fetus is a stage of development that is not exclusive of the term child or baby. A child goes through the fetal stage and the infant stage and the toddler stage and the addolescant stage.

And women cannot look out for themselves?

what do the statistics say?

Do you get it that little girls should be taught self-defense?

I am all for teaching them self defense and will give the first lesson here: Aim for center of mass.

Most women would likely prefer to stun their target, and enable themselves to escape, rather than kill him. I have no personal preference one way or the other.

…would rather not kill a rapist but willing to murder a child…

Everything I have written is in accordance with my morals, my experience, my relationship with God as I understand Him. It doesn’t surprise me that you cannot make room for that.

So your personal morals trump the rights of other humans?

So if my morals said to sacrifice people to volcanoes …

 

[royal_archer]

**Is the skin cell a complete child? Or does the DNA found within the skin cell merely represent the child?

Limerick**

Williewonka was actually trying to argue in support of your possition but thank you for topedoing him.

You are right in this aspect. The issue of Feti vs child was what type of being it is. However both are complete beings. skin cells once removed from the original being are not complete beings nor do they have souls.

 

[royal_archer]

“DNA of a fetus is the same as it is for the same infant, the same child, the same adolescent, the same adult, the same senior, the same cadaver. Ergo, same should have the same rights. Am I close?”

Yes. Very close. Don’t forget the DNA is also the same for the skin cell. So, remember, Royal Archer asked, “What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a child?”

And, I ask, “What exacty is the DNA make up of a “Feti” that makes it different than a skin cell?”

Does the skin cell have the same rights?

Are you legaly allowed to harm other peoples skin? If you were to cut or bruise my skin you would be breaking the law.

 

[WillieWonka]

You are right in this aspect. The issue of Feti vs child was what type of being it is. However both are complete beings. skin cells once removed from the original being are not complete beings nor do they have souls.*

But, skin cells have the exact same DNA as the fetus and child. DNA does not reveal if something is a complete being, nor does it say anything about a soul. It would appear DNA doesn’t matter in determining rights of anything.

We might also consider that a compete being has DNA only because each and every individual cell has DNA. If none of those individual cells has rights due to its DNA, then how would the complete being have rights due to its cells’ posession of DNA?

 

[WillieWonka]

“Are you legaly allowed to harm other peoples skin? If you were to cut or bruise my skin you would be breaking the law.”

Sure I am. Let’s say a skin cell is in a petri dish. I destroy it in a medical test. Including its DNA.

Or, let’s make it a matter of pro-choice. A woman has a beer and zaps a few brain cells and their DNA.

The appeal to DNA doesn’t work.