How to tell parents that my brother is gay

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No. Wrong again. The constant yammering about personal rights was totally unconnected to the truth - except to you. You are the only person relating not taking abuse to some sort of lofty, ideological concern for individualism. It is simply a way to distract from what others are actually saying in an attempt to just make them look like cruel, inflexible people.

And yes, the record more than speaks to that.
Thank you so much for having common sense. I’ve never seen people so in denial about what they said. I don’t even think saying anything else will really make much of a difference. Either way it really doesn’t matter other than how it speaks volumes about them.
 
Deny my own words to cut mum some slack? Why? Empathy and compassion for the son was well addressed by other posters (and with which I concur), but it is those posters who chose to direct nothing but derision toward the mother, or my suggestion to go easy on her, with whom I took exception. If a poster is obligated to remark on all sides of an issue, then we’d be all guilty of “bias”. My aim was to add some balance, and doesn’t it seem to have caused a fuss with some. :rolleyes:

I won’t quote or comment on the last para in your post - other than to reject is as unconnected with the truth.

I am happy with the record as it stands and feel no need to further re-hash it. Over and out.
Again, what exactly do you mean by slack? Stop being gay? Stop acting gay? Stop NOT being Catholic? Stop not abiding by my parents rules even as self supporting adult? Is your issue with “personal rights” or free will?
 
So try harder to follow the thread. 🤷
This comment you have made is nothing short of intolerably rude to the very person who is the original poster and is the whole purpose of this entire thread.

I join my voice to the others who denounce such behaviour.
 
Sort of. Our dad is actually taking it much better than anyone. He’s actually having issues with our mom right now because she’s the one that’s being really…concerned, to put it lightly and kindly, about all this. We did tell them about Thanksgiving to which my dad will be attending for a little while while my mother boycotts the event at their home. 🤷 We tried coaxing her to come but she refuses unless my brother shows up alone. Either way, it’ll all work out eventually.
Thank you very much for returning and sharing news with those of us who have followed your situation with concern and empathy.

You and your siblings have remained very much in my thoughts across these months, as I know that the holidays are approaching – and that this will, no doubt, be a contentious time…especially in light of the significant others that inhabit your lives.

I am glad to read that your father, at least, will be joining you for something of the celebration – and, of course, that you have each other to support and sustain each other in the face of your mother’s behaviour.

I am also glad to read that your father is coming to terms with the decisions of his now autonomous adult children and I hope that the relationship that each of you has with him can not only be a source of encouragement and consolation to each of you but also to him, as well, as you all grow into the reality that children do become adults and make decisions that are, properly, theirs.

I am, of course, very sorry to read that your mother’s situations seems…non-ameliorated. From my pastoral experience as a priest, I know that this can only be painful for all of you and, of course, really it is saddest of all that she is isolating herself from her family and now runs the risk of even harming her relationship with her husband as well as her children. That is most sad.

I continue to pray that some priest, deacon or religious in her life can help her through pastoral counseling or urging her to seek help in order to emerge from this self-inflicted isolation.

I am grieved for all of you. In the face of this, which must present an even greater challenge for how you view the Church, I am reminded of what the bishop of San Diego just said in the context of a diocesan synod on the family which he just convoked. in an interview, he said:

*The group working on how to bring spiritual depth to family life raised the issue of inclusion. What they said is that we really need our marriage and family outreach to stress that families are all-inclusive. They include single people, they include gay and lesbian people, they include the homeless, the marginalized. They include everyone. They are all part of our families.

And thus, when we talk about the spirituality of family life, it has to convey very powerfully the fact that Christ calls to each and every one of us and invites us to be part of this family, which is the Church, but also to be a part of family life, the families which we’re born into and those created in our lifetimes.*

I wish your mother would have the occasion to hear these words expressed by and enacted by Bishop McElroy.

I hope, as time passes, that the wounds you and your siblings have received can begin to heal and that you will find attitudes – which are certainly to be found – that are less wounding than what you have received heretofore.

As I believe I wrote before, at least you who are siblings are there as a strong and loving presence to each other and, hopefully, in addition to that continuing and growing…your mother will eventually modify her behaviour…at least to resign herself that her children are now adults and exercising their autonomy to choose lives for themselves.

I do hope that the path will remain open so that she can find her way to be an integral part of the lives you will create for yourselves and with those whom you choose to be part of your lives…the families you will create as well as the family into which you were born, to use the good bishop’s above expression.

In so far as the Catholic Church, or your memories of aspects of it, remain a positive influence to you, please allow me to extend to you my best wishes for the holidays ahead…that they may be meaningful in every positive way possible. May they be moments that will strengthen you in your bonds to each other and in forging positive memories you can cherish. May they speak to you on levels that transcend human love and speak to a love that is transcendent across human history and that uplifts and ennobles the human spirit, the human heart, and human dignity.

Into each of our lives, there is so much for which a reaction of thankfulness helps us to grow as persons as well as to grow in a conscious sense of gratitude for things seen and unseen in our lives. And Christmas, of course, can speak to us on so many levels of love, selflessness, self-sacrifice, and the beauty of self-giving.

With every best wish for you and those who are part of your lives, I thank you again for coming back to visit with us. I do hope you return once more, at least, to find this message.
 
Hello everyone! I haven’t used this site since sophomore year of college but I do need some advice.
Hi,
So my twin brother is gay and has been in a relationship for a little more than four years.
😦
Our older sister, and a few close relatives know he’s gay and of course he has all of our love and support.
May I ask are you Catholic? If so, it depends what you mean by ‘love and support’ as I believe ‘love and support’ is a good thing, but not if it’s a kind of ‘love and support’ that encourages and advocates such a path for him. In short, it depends what you mean by ‘love and support’ I believe.
I guess I can say all of our family is baptized Catholic but the only devout and heavily practicing Catholics are our parents who go to daily mass, adoration, have crucifixes on every wall etc. due to this (and the fact that they make comments about another relative’s son being gay as if it were an awful tragedy) my brother never came out to them.
😦 It probably could have been handled a lot better if he felt he could come out to his parents much before, what I believe is wrong is when ‘coming out’ implies having a same sex partner who they may or may not be sexually involved with. As it’s like, they only told you because they couldn’t hide it from you any longer, and it’s now so deep that even if you thought you could have given some words of advice that may have helped them, it’s too late now.
My sister and I have a closer relationship with him as well as his partner. My parents just think he’s his best friend and are always lamenting that my brother hasn’t met a “nice Catholic girl” to marry.
😦 The worst part about this, is when/if they do find out, not only will it be one thing, but they will also have another pain of feeling like they have been ‘fooled’, so when/if they do tell them, I would keep in the back of ones mind that they could also be upset about not being told, especially if the other children knew and they all agreed not to let their parents know.

That’s not really your fault though, there isn’t much you can really do about it because of the love for your brother and for your parents, I don’t know what I would do other than encourage my brother to tell my parents, and say to your brother “if Mum or Dad ask me I can’t lie about it to them so you need to tell them.”

Or as another poster I think mentioned, if they asked you could possibly take the approach of “It’s not for me to say.”

Kind of like* “I think it would be incriminating for me to confirm or deny anything.” *
We all live independently so we wouldn’t really have to give a hoot about our parents religious beliefs but this upcoming thanksgiving we are celebrating at my sister’s house. We are more than happy to invite my brother and his boyfriend so he can meet the rest of the family but we’re trying to figure out how to give my parents the heads up. Obviously my brother will be the one telling them and my sister and I will just be there for moral support.
Moral support for who? I think it would be wrong for you all to gang up on your parents if that’s what it could mean or entail.
I looked up other threads similar to the situation but the main thing a lot of people say is to not come out to the parents at all,
Whoa, I haven’t been on those threads then, because my advice is exactly the opposite.
which, to me seems unlikely because I don’t want my mother or father to get a brain aneurism from seeing my brother and his boyfriend act like a couple for the first time at thanksgiving dinner. 🤷
Not only that, but the feeling they have been lied to and that they had to ‘suspect’ it would compound the problem I believe.
I would appreciate any advice on how and when to break it to our parents in the most gentle way possible. Thank you!
By trying to understand where your parents are coming from I believe would be the best way, the Catholic thing for the parents I believe, would be to still disagree with what their son is doing here, but to pray for him and perhaps talk to him about it if he is open to it.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of pro LGBT material out there, that tries to paint Christians as evil bigots and haters, if you believe that, than I don’t think it will go down well, especially if you try to use lines out of their books to attack Christians who hold true to Christ’s teachings on marriage and the family.

Anyway, just some of my thoughts, sorry for the late reply, maybe it will still help.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
Friend, we are way past all that by now. Please read the entire thread.
 
Friend, we are way past all that by now. Please read the entire thread.
Sorry, it’s 18 pages in, thought I could perhaps give my opinion/advice and cover it a bit by answering the original post (will read through it, although I don’t think I can really comment on anything because of how many posts there are now and how much time has pasted).

Thank you

God Bless You

Josh
 
Ok let’s clear up a few things.
  1. YES, my brother has asked for my help. My parents scare him, he has never had a close relationship with them since he came to terms with his sexuality. We are part of his support system, he confides in us, we were the first family members he introduced his boyfriend to. Obviously if he didn’t want us involved in this we would have the common sense to let him handle it by himself. :rolleyes:
  2. My brother and his boyfriend are a couple. They do things me and my boyfriend do, such as hold hands, kiss, terms of endearment etc. Like us, they’re not going make out on the couch or the family table. Share a kiss? Most likely.
  3. We love our parents and respect their beliefs. Do we share their beliefs? Absolutely not. Are we aware that they might boycott Thanksgiving dinner, shun my brother, never want his friend over etc.? Yes, we’re hoping for the best but knowing how they are we’re not going to lose sleep if they decide to take that stance.If they decide they would rather have Thanksgiving alone than to see their son with another man then those are the consequences they’ll have to live with, same goes for us. 🤷
  4. Of course my brother will be the one telling them. He has requested my sister and I to be there and we’re just offering moral support and advice. Any advice I receive here that I think might be helpful I will pass on to him.
There is a categorical difference in one being homosexual and being a practicing homosexual. The former is a cross, the latter an evil.

If your brother was an adulterer and brought his adulteress to the family dinner, what would be different? Would you support your brother as an adulterer?
 
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