How we can find peace without any meaning?

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We are given lives, we grow, we enjoy and sometimes suffer and we eventually die. It is promised that we are given new lives again, after resurrection, and we go either to Hell or Heaven. But how all these could give any meaning to our lives? How we could find peace if our lives is meaningless?
 
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We are given lives, we grow, we enjoy and sometimes suffer and we eventually die. It is promised that we are given new lives again, after resurrection, and we go either to Hell or Heaven. But how all these could give any meaning to our lives? How we could find peace if our lives is meaningless?
The very existence of an afterlife gives our life meaning. Our lives are the foundation upon which our eternity will be built.

I just wanted to drop by to say this, I won’t be engaging in another one of your threads. Feel free to respond if you want, but I won’t see it.
 
We are given lives, we grow, we enjoy and sometimes suffer and we eventually die. It is promised that we are given new lives again, after resurrection, and we go either to Hell or Heaven. But how all these could give any meaning to our lives? How we could find peace if our lives is meaningless?
Your question is confusing? Which quote are you referring to with the question?

Are you referring to this quote?
We are given lives, we grow, we enjoy and sometimes suffer and we eventually die.
Because doesn’t this quote already answer you questions?
It is promised that we are given new lives again, after resurrection, and we go either to Hell or Heaven
 
The very existence of an afterlife gives our life meaning. Our lives are the foundation upon which our eternity will be built.

I just wanted to drop by to say this, I won’t be engaging in another one of your threads. Feel free to respond if you want, but I won’t see it.
The existence of an afterlife does not give us any meaning. It is simply another mode of experience which is very reacher but at the end of the day it is simple meaningless experience.
 
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Your question is confusing?
My question is not confusing. It is plain and simple. I can formulate it as following. We enjoy our lives here and we could enjoy much more our afterlives later. Enjoying simply is a mode of experience and it cannot grant any meaning to our lives. So the main question is what was Go’d purpose for creating the universe.
 
My question is not confusing. It is plain and simple. I can formulate it as following. We enjoy our lives here and we could enjoy much more our afterlives later. Enjoying simply is a mode of experience and it cannot grant any meaning to our lives. So the main question is what was Go’d purpose for creating the universe.
Ok I’m following you now. I guess what confused me is “meaning”. Isn’t our experiences what creates the meaning of our lives?
We are given lives, we grow, we enjoy and sometimes suffer and we eventually die.
I can easily explain what the meaning of my life is and why I am here. I guess in order to answer the question the first question that needs to be answered is: Have you discovered the meaning of your life, or the reason you are here?
 
We are given lives, we grow, we enjoy and sometimes suffer and we eventually die. It is promised that we are given new lives again, after resurrection, and we go either to Hell or Heaven. But how all these could give any meaning to our lives? How we could find peace if our lives is meaningless?
As St Teresa of Avila put it,**“It is love alone that gives worth to all things.” **

This is an enormously profound statement, made by one who has tasted God’s boundless, ineffable love. The Resurrection is just the beginning, in a way, of an eternal existence of uncompromised happiness to a degree the human mind cannot even begin to imagine. This is realized in us by nothing more or less than God’s presence; it’s that over-powering.

Coupled with that is His knowledge-we’ll plumbing it’s depths for eternity as well. If there’s even a hint of meaning and happiness in this relatively godless world (and I’d submit that there’s a lot more than just a hint), then He’ll provide complete satisfaction in those areas in the next.
 
The very existence of an afterlife gives our life meaning. Our lives are the foundation upon which our eternity will be built.
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If life was temporary and everything would eventually die and burn up in the sun and the universe dies and grows cold then ultimately life would have no lasting meaning. However, God gives our lives meaning, not only by creating us to be in a relationship with him, but by extending our lives to forever. Thus, maximum possible meaning. You could not get more meaning then that. What you do matters eternally.
 
Ok I’m following you now. I guess what confused me is “meaning”. Isn’t our experiences what creates the meaning of our lives?
The mere experience cannot possibly grant any meaning. We can say that love is a meaning but that is not ultimate one. So we should look for more otherwise our lives become meaningless and fall in the state of missery.
I can easily explain what the meaning of my life is and why I am here.
What is it? To love?
I guess in order to answer the question the first question that needs to be answered is: Have you discovered the meaning of your life, or the reason you are here?
Love is the only thing that can sometimes give me comfort so sometimes I fall in the state of misery because I feel that Love cannot fulfill me as a meaning.
 
As St Teresa of Avila put it,**“It is love alone that gives worth to all things.” **
Love is something deep in our nature that we could depend on it in our earthly lives. You didn’t provide any reason that Love as a state of mind can grant any meaning to our lives.
This is an enormously profound statement, made by one who has tasted God’s boundless, ineffable love. The Resurrection is just the beginning, in a way, of an eternal existence of uncompromised happiness to a degree the human mind cannot even begin to imagine. This is realized in us by nothing more or less than God’s presence; it’s that over-powering.
Experience of happiness does not grant any meaning to our lives. We are partially happy in our earthy life and we can be more happy in the next life. So what?
Coupled with that is His knowledge-we’ll plumbing it’s depths for eternity as well. If there’s even a hint of meaning and happiness in this relatively godless world (and I’d submit that there’s a lot more than just a hint), then He’ll provide complete satisfaction in those areas in the next.
Satisfaction is a state of mind which can be fulfilled when we need something. Satisfaction does not grant any meaning to our lives hence we can fall in state of misery once we get used to satisfaction.
 
If life was temporary and everything would eventually die and burn up in the sun and the universe dies and grows cold then ultimately life would have no lasting meaning.
We could die and rest in state of peace or we could fall in state of sanity living forever when there is no meaning in our lives. You need a meaning to live peacefully and eternally.
However, God gives our lives meaning, not only by creating us to be in a relationship with him, but by extending our lives to forever.
What is the meaning of your life being as a Christian?
Thus, maximum possible meaning. You could not get more meaning then that. What you do matters eternally.
How an eternal life can grant any meaning to you? The eternal life can simply put you in state of misery. Simply a permanent Hell.
 
The mere experience cannot possibly grant any meaning. We can say that love is a meaning but that is not ultimate one. So we should look for more otherwise our lives become meaningless and fall in the state of missery.
I didn’t bring “Love” into the discussion Fhansen did. I also said experiences, plural. I agree we are incapable of showing love as God does and this is the reason we have to keep looking for more or our lives become meaningless.
What is it? To love?
Sure love is part of it but the meaning of my life is to use the incredible gifts God has given me to serve others. I always believed I was here for a reason, should have died when I was 6, and always try my best to put others first.
Love is the only thing that can sometimes give me comfort so sometimes I fall in the state of misery because I feel that Love cannot fulfill me as a meaning.
Yeah ups and downs are a part of life. Sometimes Love will fulfill us and sometimes it won’t. Sometimes I can love others so much that I forget about myself and why I am here. I feel your pain, I have been in that state of misery. My dad is slowly dying and I spend about an hour each day in that misery, it makes us feel empty inside. It is times like these I have to remind myself that God has a reason for giving me this pain. Someday I will understand why. It might be in this life or it might be in the next. But even this daily pain I feel is part of the meaning of life. I haven’t figured it all out yet. I guess that is why life is the journey and heaven is the destination. Sometimes the road is level and sometimes it is an easy coast down a hill. However, quite often it is steep and rocky and difficult to climb. But if we open our hearts and minds to God he will eventually show us that he was with us in these rocky times and these difficulties give as much meaning to our lives as the love does.

Take care Bahman, I said a pray for both of us, that God will give us strength in these times of misery.
 
I didn’t bring “Love” into the discussion Fhansen did. I also said experiences, plural. I agree we are incapable of showing love as God does and this is the reason we have to keep looking for more or our lives become meaningless.
Love is simply an emotion. It cannot grant meaning.
Sure love is part of it but the meaning of my life is to use the incredible gifts God has given me to serve others. I always believed I was here for a reason, should have died when I was 6, and always try my best to put others first.
You are mixing purpose with meaning when you said that you are here to serve others.
Yeah ups and downs are a part of life. Sometimes Love will fulfill us and sometimes it won’t.
That is the point. We cannot possibly depend on Love since it is mere an emotion so it goes up and down. Meaning is what we need.
Sometimes I can love others so much that I forget about myself and why I am here. I feel your pain, I have been in that state of misery. My dad is slowly dying and I spend about an hour each day in that misery, it makes us feel empty inside. It is times like these I have to remind myself that God has a reason for giving me this pain. Someday I will understand why. It might be in this life or it might be in the next. But even this daily pain I feel is part of the meaning of life. I haven’t figured it all out yet. I guess that is why life is the journey and heaven is the destination. Sometimes the road is level and sometimes it is an easy coast down a hill. However, quite often it is steep and rocky and difficult to climb. But if we open our hearts and minds to God he will eventually show us that he was with us in these rocky times and these difficulties give as much meaning to our lives as the love does.
That is life. Sometimes is up and sometimes is down. I have no idea why it should be like this. I suppose you know and accept it considering the fact that you are a believer. That should be duty of Church to explain this to you.
Take care Bahman, I said a pray for both of us, that God will give us strength in these times of misery.
Thank you.
 
Love is something deep in our nature that we could depend on it in our earthly lives. You didn’t provide any reason that Love as a state of mind can grant any meaning to our lives.
If a person experiences it on the scale that God can grant, then they realize that love, alone, is what makes life worth living. It’s much more than a mere emotion; it’s the reason, motivation, and power behind life itself. It’s the cause of most of our own actions as well because we’re drawn to that which we love. The problem is that we don’t* know* love in its pure and highest form; we don’t even look for it because we settle for lesser, vain, and futile things to satisfy our primordial need for it. But we’re actually here to look for it. As we seek God, we seek love. To the extent that we find God, we find love.
"Glory in his holy name;
let the hearts of those who seek the Lord rejoice.
Look to the Lord and his strength;
seek his face always."
Ps 105:3-4
Satisfaction is a state of mind which can be fulfilled when we need something. Satisfaction does not grant any meaning to our lives hence we can fall in state of misery once we get used to satisfaction.
Satisfaction is complete once union with God is complete, which only occurs on a permanent or static basis in the next life. Here we only taste of Him, more or less profoundly depending on the level of revelation He grants us. In any case, “God alone satisfies”, as Aquinas put it.
 
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