How would a country completely based on the Social Kingship of Jesus Christ would be?

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In my opinion an atheist in a Traditional Catholic State as conceived by the principles of the Social Kingship should refrain to display his disbelief and let his personal convictions in the private realm. The public space would be Catholic. Holidays, public prayers, symbols, statues, festivals, etc.
 
Like I said, such a state sounds like a nightmare to a non believer
 
You can always leave.

Anyways this concept is a bit silly when you can just have bunch of fervent Catholics instead. Kn a way this sort of thing can be found some religious orders to a degree.
 
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Of course, it would be a Catholic state designed to Catholics. Maybe we could convert you!
 
He doesn’t want to hear that.
 
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niceatheist said:
Like I said, such a state sounds like a nightmare to a non believer
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Perhaps you could start your own thread of what it would be like if a country removed all it’s Christians and what benefits an atheist would then enjoy. What do you think that would look like?
 
Just to be clear, the principles that I am talking about are those of Quas Primas (Benedict XI), the Syllabus of Errors (Pius IX) .
 
I think prohibition of selling meat to restaurants on Fridays would be something.
 
Read the history of Jewish people in the Papal State… 🙃 No bueno…
 
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Or would the attitude of “the ONLY job a woman should have is being a wife and mother”, which is very prevalent among those who advocate for a Catholic monarchy, be the law of the land?
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I hope not.
 
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Women should be encouraged to be mothers and wives, but I don’t think a Catholic State would forbid woman’s working in jobs that weren’t against the chastity. There are always that have a strong vocation to other callings, but the standard would be to take care of the family.
 
So you’re saying the church’s ideal is that women be mothers, but a small number choosing not to be is tolerated.
 
Yes, it is. We shouldn’t be ashamed to say that. It is the most beautiful job ever, taking care of your children and family. It is not because the modernism of the last decades changed what was the common belief of centuries that we must be afraid to say this.
 
What if someone doesn’t want to be a mother? I get that you have no intention of imposing motherhood, but there’s an underlying sentiment here that most other “vocations”, like, say, wanting to be a doctor or a lawyer, are lesser goals that, if not discouraged, shouldn’t be encouraged.

My youngest daughter is in her mid-20s, single and just finishing up a second degree, and at least at this point has no desire for a partner or children. Is she lesser than a woman who wants to have kids? Just what would her position be in this ideal Catholic state, because from where I’m standing, I’d describe this state as a “mild Iran”.
 
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I would like to know from you what important and interesting laws and policies a country 100% governed in the traditional principles of the Social Kingship of Jesus Christ, build with ultimate goal of saving souls and honoring Go, would have.
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Seriously, that country would literally be Heaven. His word in perfect practice is Heaven. HE IS Heaven. 🙂 That’s why he is our Lord and our God. And in his own words, “My kingdom is not of this world.” We will never see what the Kingship of Jesus Christ looks like on this earth until he come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom shall have no end.
 
Love and care for each other, especially the poorest and most vulnerable would be manifest.
 
I don’t think so. I think a lot of the “traditional” Catholic idea on this issue comes from the post-WW2 US needing to get women out of work so returning men could get jobs.

St Terese of Lisieux’s mother had her own business, remember.
 
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I think it was Ven. Fulton Sheen who said the error of the medieval church was trying to build Christendom on earth. Jesus was clear that his kingdom is not of this world. We shouldn’t pretend that He didn’t mean what He said, despite the temptation to shape natural government in some ideal form.

We should definitely make the culture as Catholic as we can; but the government should be secular. Natural laws should reflect natural law; there is no need to make any faith-based civil laws. Someone like @niceatheist should enjoy freedom, peace and order without feeling the need to share the faith. This freedom should include the freedom to be a freethinker and skeptic.

Although I live in a monarchy, I think royalty on earth only obscures the reign of Christ, who is our true king. If we read the Old Testament, we see how Israel gradually corrupted as it sought a monarchy to be like other nations around them. A republic that recognizes the ultimate ideal authority in God, seems like a more fitting government for our earthly sojourn, until we reach the kingdom of heaven. So the United States got a lot of things right.
 
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Neithan said:
I think it was Ven. Fulton Sheen who said the error of the medieval church was trying to build Christendom on earth. Jesus was clear that his kingdom is not of this world. We shouldn’t pretend that He didn’t mean what He said, despite the temptation to shape natural government in some ideal form.

We should definitely make the culture as Catholic as we can; but the government should be secular. Natural laws should reflect natural law; there is no need to make any faith-based civil laws. Someone like @niceatheist should enjoy freedom, peace and order without feeling the need to share the faith. This freedom should include the freedom to be a freethinker and skeptic.

Although I live in a monarchy, I think royalty on earth only obscures the reign of Christ, who is our true king. If we read the Old Testament, we see how Israel gradually corrupted as it sought a monarchy to be like other nations around them. A republic that recognizes the ultimate ideal authority in God, seems like a more fitting government for our earthly sojourn, until we reach the kingdom of heaven. So the United States got a lot of things right.
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**I think royalty on earth only obscures the reign of Christ, who is our true king.**:point_up_2:t2:

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What if someone doesn’t want to be a mother? I get that you have no intention of imposing motherhood, but there’s an underlying sentiment here that most other “vocations”, like, say, wanting to be a doctor or a lawyer, are lesser goals that, if not discouraged, shouldn’t be encouraged.

My youngest daughter is in her mid-20s, single and just finishing up a second degree, and at least at this point has no desire for a partner or children. Is she lesser than a woman who wants to have kids? Just what would her position be in this ideal Catholic state, because from where I’m standing, I’d describe this state as a “mild Iran”.
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Would “mild Iran”, mutatis mutandis, substitute Catholicism for Islam, be such a bad thing?

I have seen videos and street scenes of Tehran, showing people in their homes, living ordinary lives. It doesn’t look like a bad place to me. Quite pleasant, actually. Never been there, wouldn’t mind visiting.

In a Catholic society organized according to the social principles of the reign of Christ the King, motherhood would be encouraged, but women would have equal rights and could pursue any career they might wish to.

This little book might shed some light on what such a country would look like:

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Spangled-Crown-Simple-American-Monarchy/dp/1944339051

Note well: a Catholic social system would not necessarily have to be a monarchy. Might be helpful, but not absolutely needed.
 
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