Hulu Series "Mrs America" hate piece on Phyllis Schlafly?

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How can a scene where her husband rapes her be showing another light/side to her. Really?
 
gam197 said:
Do we want to delve into what happens in other people’s bedrooms? How do we know this? She is not here to defend herself or her husband.
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It’s possible this is the writers’ way of depicting her well-publicized quotes that martial rape did not exist, because by marrying a man, a woman gives universal consent to sex whenever he wants.
 
I don’t know. It may afford some inkling into her personal psyche that people are not aware of. Hopefully, the series does not dwell only on this aspect of her life. Why not wait and see it before passing judgment?
 
What is a false premise. The people who have seen the scene say he forced himself on her.
 
It certainly has some effect on a woman’s way of thinking about men and people in general, don’t you think?
 
The truth of her life stops. Yes it does unless there is new information about how she lived.

This woman was out there in the news. All that was written about her over the last 50 years has already been written.

Hollywood /Hulu does not have the right to make up stories on her life such as the rape scene or credit card scene. She was around for a long time, why not ask at that time about such things.
 
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gam197 said:
The truth of her life stops. Yes it does unless there is new information about how she lived.

This woman was out there in the news. All that was written about her over the last 50 years has already been written.

Hollywood /Hulu does not have the right to make up stories on her life such as the rape scene or credit card scene. She was around for a long time
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How do you know there is not new information that you are so certain everything is known?

Yes, all that was written has been written… 🤨

You are the one saying they are making them up. How do you know for sure they didn’t happen?
 
Irishmom2 said:
How do you know there is not new information that you are so certain everything is known?

Yes, all that was written has been written… 🤨

You are the one saying they are making them up. How do you know for sure they didn’t happen?
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How do you know it did happen? You (not personal) are putting out there that her husband raped her.
 
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I am not saying any such thing. I merely spoke against your assumption that we know everything because she is dead. I have not seen this program, nor do I know much about her. You, on the other hand are full of accusations and indignation over a story that has not yet aired.

I refuse to speculate further on what is the truth or not.
 
If a diary in her handwriting or something with proof comes forth, then fine.

We may not know everything about her life but this series does not have the right to make things up.

Her daughter is defending her parents.
That scene bears no recognition to the parents she knew, said Mrs. Cori She added that the show’s previews give a “horrific misrepresentation” of her mother and called the marital rape scene “a falsehood and a slur against my father.”
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My parents were married for 43 years. They had a loving relationship,” she said. “They were in love, and both of them treated each other with the utmost respect. They were both devout Roman Catholics, and they believed in marriage as a sacrament.
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Irishmom2 said:
@gam197, how is it that you think you know so much about her truth? Maybe what is in the movie has research backing it up that you don’t know about, but the person writing it does. That is what investigative reporters, historians and good journalists do. And screenplay writers are not just making it up as they go along, they also research their story.
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Oh yes, I’m sure we can expect that
Hollywood is going to give an even-handed and fair treatment of a conservative political figure. Yup.
 
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Jbrady said:
Schlafly was a lot like Fred Phelps: dripping with pure hatred
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Fred Phelps did a huge amount of civil rights work for African-American people and won the respect of many before he went off the rails with his hatred of gay people.

Nobody is all good or all bad.
 
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gam197 said:
No it does not stop when the person dies but the truth stops. A writer cannot write that her husband raped her. She cannot defend herself.
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Who says truth stops? New information, even if it is uncovered long after events happen, can shed new light.

This is one reason why long-past people and eras continue to fascinate. There IS new information, and so new truth, being.discovered about Ancient Rome, Tudor England, the US Civil War, WWI etc.
 
LilyM said:
Who says truth stops? New information, even if it is uncovered long after events happen, can shed new light.
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No one is saying real truth stops. If a diary with her handwriting come forth, fine as I’ve stated…

This was in reference to the rape scene.
 
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Jbrady said:
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Nepperhan:
Some of her positions were very odd and hard to support even as logical.
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Schlafly was a lot like Fred Phelps: dripping with pure hatred, and luxuriating in being as obnoxious as possible to everyone on a nationwide scale.

It’s sickening that a lot of her hatred was directed toward women, and even more sickening that she found an outlet for her venom in the Religious Right.

Why did they make a series about it? Because TV audiences like to see stuff about awful people: The Sopranos, Dexter, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, and not one, not two, but THREE series about Pope Alexander VI and his charming family. There is just something fascinating about evil when one is protected from it by one’s TV screen or the Big Screen.

And no, it’s nothing new. Audiences have been lapping it up since Shakespeare’s time and before. Titus Andronicus, Othello and King Lear are prime examples.
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That’s a pretty strong term : dripping with pure hatred. You sound so charitable. Care to give us some examples?
 
gam197 said:
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LilyM:
Who says truth stops? New information, even if it is uncovered long after events happen, can shed new light.
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No one is saying real truth stops. If a diary with her handwriting come forth, fine as I’ve stated…
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No comment on the scene (not knowing neatly enough about either Ms Schlafly or what sources of information exist about her).

A diary in her handwriting could be made-up garbage in whole or part.

On the other hand, as a hypothetical, if the daughter had come out and said “actually, my father was abusive to my mother in all sorts of ways, and probably did rape her”, you would dismiss it because it is not from the woman herself?

History is about using both primary and secondary sources and carefully considering the reliability of each on a case-by-case basis. Not merely credulously taking first hand accounts as gospel and ignoring everything else.
 
If anyone read the Federalist piece, her biographer states that the show is “so inaccurate it’s shocking”.
 
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