Hypostatic Union and sin

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Jesus has human nature so He in principle can sin. God, however, cannot sin so I was wondering how such a union is possible.
 
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The Third Council of Constantinople ”almost unanimously, with the exception of two individuals, condemned the Monothelite doctrine as one that diminished the fullness of Christ’s humanity, and asserted that Dyothelitism was the true doctrine, with Christ possessing “two natural wills and two natural energies, without division, alteration, separation or confusion”.”

Your question was the subject of interest 1400 years ago, so you might find something to address your question there.
 
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Dovekin said:
The Third Council of Constantinople ”almost unanimously, with the exception of two individuals, condemned the Monothelite doctrine as one that diminished the fullness of Christ’s humanity, and asserted that Dyothelitism was the true doctrine, with Christ possessing “two natural wills and two natural energies, without division, alteration, separation or confusion”.”

Your question was the subject of interest 1400 years ago, so you might find something to address your question there.
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So, something union can sin and cannot sin at the same time?
 
To “sin” is to “miss the mark”.
It means to aim at something other than Union with the Father in heaven and to try to attain that Union with something other than the Father in Heaven as the one sole Purpose in being alive and happy.
Jesus never aimed at anything besides his Father’s will and Union with his Father and so he never missed the mark. We, however, aim at something else and we miss the mark of where we should be which is with the Father.
Anyone “holy” can serve in the presence of God without being consumed in destruction. That is the reason we are able to offer the sacrifice of the Mass - we are a holy people, priests to our God. We are restored to holiness with the confiteor and absolution, so missing the mark is removed from sight and we are able to be within God in the union of the sacrifice, and he in us in the raising of his Son, whose flesh and blood we have consumed.
 
Christ’s Godliness, His Divinity, perfected His human nature. His human nature is perfectly united to that of the Father. He suffers no concupiscence as we do. It is from our concupiscence that we attempt to make Christ as we are. Impossible. It is we who are tarnished by concupiscence - a lack of perfection; a tendency to do wrong. Thus we question perfection, having only the experience of imperfection.
 
John_Martin said:
To “sin” is to “miss the mark”.
It means to aim at something other than Union with the Father in heaven and to try to attain that Union with something other than the Father in Heaven as the one sole Purpose in being alive and happy.
Jesus never aimed at anything besides his Father’s will and Union with his Father and so he never missed the mark. We, however, aim at something else and we miss the mark of where we should be which is with the Father.
Anyone “holy” can serve in the presence of God without being consumed in destruction. That is the reason we are able to offer the sacrifice of the Mass - we are a holy people, priests to our God. We are restored to holiness with the confiteor and absolution, so missing the mark is removed from sight and we are able to be within God in the union of the sacrifice, and he in us in the raising of his Son, whose flesh and blood we have consumed.
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A free agent is always free to choose not God and sin even in Heaven. God is free but He cannot sin. I am talking about the tension which exist in union since in one hand the union is able to sin and in another hand He cannot sin.
 
His human nature had the capacity to sin. However, God chose a human body and soul that would not as it would be a contradiction if the divine person assumed a human nature and sinned through it.
 
po18guy said:
Christ’s Godliness, His Divinity, perfected His human nature. His human nature is perfectly united to that of the Father. He suffers no concupiscence as we do. It is from our concupiscence that we attempt to make Christ as we are. Impossible. It is we who are tarnished by concupiscence - a lack of perfection; a tendency to do wrong. Thus we question perfection, having only the experience of imperfection.
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Can Jesus sin? If not then He is not a human by definition.
 
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po18guy:
Christ’s Godliness, His Divinity, perfected His human nature. His human nature is perfectly united to that of the Father. He suffers no concupiscence as we do. It is from our concupiscence that we attempt to make Christ as we are. Impossible. It is we who are tarnished by concupiscence - a lack of perfection; a tendency to do wrong. Thus we question perfection, having only the experience of imperfection.
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Can Jesus sin? If not then He is not a human by definition.
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That’s… just making up your own definitions without listening to other people.
 
STT said:
Can Jesus sin? If not then He is not a human by definition.
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That is not correct; you are mistaken. No one can sin in the presence of God; no human can sin in the presence of God, but can only sin when facing away from God or out of the presence of God. That is why, when we are in heaven, we will never sin, even though we will remain human for eternity. The capacity to sin is contingent upon the proximity to God, which is why the good Angels never sin whereas is the bad Angels always sin. It is also why Mary never sinned - because of her proximity to God, the Holy Spirit within her from her conception.
 
Wesrock said:
His human nature had the capacity to sin. However, God chose a human body and soul that would not as it would be a contradiction if the divine person assumed a human nature and sinned through it.
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Are you saying that God sees eternally that Jesus does not sin eternally and that is why He choose to assume this specific soul and body? How God could create something free that He knows his fate?
 
He took with him Peter, James, and John, and began to be troubled and distressed. Then he said to them, “My soul is sorrowful even to death. Remain here and keep watch.” He advanced a little and fell to the ground and prayed that if it were possible the hour might pass by him; he said, “Abba, Father, all things are possible to you. Take this cup away from me, but not what I will but what you will.”
Mark 14:33-36
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I share your concerns. But I do not know what to say about them.
 
John_Martin said:
That is not correct; you are mistaken. No one can sin in the presence of God; no human can sin in the presence of God, but can only sin when facing away from God or out of the presence of God. That is why, when we are in heaven, we will never sin, even though we will remain human for eternity. The capacity to sin is contingent upon the proximity to God, which is why the good Angels never sin whereas is the bad Angels always sin. It is also why Mary never sinned - because of her proximity to God, the Holy Spirit within her from her conception.
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Why we cannot sin in presence of God? We are in presence of God since God sustain us right now.
 
Whoa! Hold it right there! Those words are your alone. I suggest that you go and read up on the hypostatic union. No good to run in circles.
 
po18guy said:
Whoa! Hold it right there! Those words are your alone. I suggest that you go and read up on the hypostatic union. No good to run in circles.
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Could you please answer this question? How do you define human when it comes to sin?
 
Dovekin said:
I share your concerns. But I do not know what to say about them.
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You can decide to do not sin. That doesn’t mean that you are not free to sin. A free agent can always sin. God is free but He cannot sin. He is an exception.
 
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We are in presence of God since God sustain us right now.
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The object known is in the knower (Augustine and Thomas)
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If you do not know God you are not in his presence because you have to know him for him to dwell within you. We’re not talking about God sustaining things externally without being known by the things he sustains. That is a philosophical construct of God’s omniscience and omnipresence; it is not being face-to-face with God, it is not being in his presence.
Again in the presence of God a human person cannot sin;
 
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