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Buckeyeboy
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They can only do that under the elements of Tennessee/Garner.
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PoorKnight
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Exactly.
It is legal for Law Enforcement to shoot someone in the back, given certain circumstances.
Say your daughter is being held hostage. Bad guy has her around the neck, pulled against himself using her as a human shield. He has a knife to her throat, gun to her temple, or hand around her neck, or knife at her back.
He says, “I’m going to kill her in 10 seconds. 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4…”
I happen to be the officer standing behind the bad guy. I cannot reach him in 10 seconds, but I am a very good shot, have my patrol rifle out and already aimed where I can stop his threat with minimal risk to your daughter.
Tell me you don’t want me shooting him in the back.
Or another scenario. Bad guy just robbed a convenience store and shot the clerk. You get there and the bad guy just ran out the front door, gun clearly in hand. He’s now running away from you, but turns and shoots. Then turns back and starts shooting at the traffic in front of him.
Did you know that per Force Science Research Institute, an untrained person be running away, turn, fire and turn again faster than a trained officer can go from “low ready” - that is gun out, and pointed somewhat low in front of him / her - to aimed and shooting? In that scenario the officer is constantly faced with threat of death / great bodily harm (justification needed for use of deadly force) but when he shoots, the bad guy’s back might be towards the officer.
Know the law, and the reality of Law Enforcement before using blanket statements.
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Buckeyeboy
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The VAST majority of police are good decent people, but as we all know, some hide behind QI.
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Trader
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First, thank you for your service.
Several years ago we had a local situation where a long time drug addict took his family hostage with a gun and neighbors called the police. At that time, Fort Wayne police were not equiped with tasers because some self-appointed civil rights groups had called them inhumane. After several hours of negotiations police finally shot him with bean bag guns, the only non-lethal resource they posessed. The bean bags did not knock him down-they made him mad. He shot one of the officers in the chest. At that point, police had no option but to shoot him with real guns. Due to the officer’s body armor and what must have been bad aim by the other officers, no one died.
The really remarkable thing about this incident is that the kidnapper who shot a cop was tried and sentenced to only two years, despite a long criminal record of drug offenses. Under Indiana law, he only had to serve one year with good behavior in prison.
Fort Wayne Police now have tasers, and their aim has improved. Last year three criminals who pointed weapons at police were killed in police shootings, and an armed robber was shot and killed by a civilian victim. No Fort Wayne police officers or Allen County deputies have been shot and killed in the line of duty since Eryk Todd Heck was killed after stepping in front of his wounded partner and returning fire that killed his own murderer in 1997. That killing took place only a mile from my home.
indianasnewscenter.com/nbc33/After-16-Years-A-Community-Still-Remembers-219846141.html
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styrgwillidar
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Aviation runs close, both civilian and military. Mishap investigations will take months calling in experts in psychology, human dynamics, physics, metallurgy, manufacturers of the specific airplane and/or systems, meterology poring over every detail, all of them arguing and than coming to a consensus to tell how in months they concluded the decisions made by the pilot in an emergency allowing seconds or minutes to react were wrong.
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