I am an atheist thread 3

[Skavau]

Self-Righteousone:

Ok, so this explains how you really haven’t experienced any life to even form an appropriate opinion on my religion. Talk to you in ten years. (Maybe less)…

I think you can add patronising and condescending to the list of things that you are. It is now becoming a rather substantial document.

Moreover, I have not formulated an opinion on your religion at all. I have defended my standpoint.
Self-Righteousone:

We are talking about people who do not believe in any God. Omar has nothing to do with this. He left one faith and went to another. I am talking about atheists…don’t get off topic here.

The point of Omar Sharif in the context of the discussion obviously flies past your head completely.

You say that Howard Storm’s testimony is evidence of Catholicism.

Then, by your own argument - Omar Sharif’s testimony is also evidence of Islam.

Take some logic classes.

I’m still waiting for you, by the way to substantiate and back up your accusations of what I am. Can you ever do that?

 

[c659smith]

Your argument had some merit if all that were historical facts.
Would Paris really have given the apple to Helena if she wasn’t actually more beautiful than the godess Aphrodite?

again my point is one may die for a lie but 10 people would being dying and being killed for a lie at differnt times and places would be illogical.

 

[c659smith]

again my point is one may die for a lie but 10 people would being dying and being killed for a lie at differnt times and places would be illogical.

It is historical facts from Biblical and non biblical sources and posted the Apostles being tortured and killed at my earlier posts with these sources.

 

[c659smith]

I think you are saying that if you had no belief in god that is how YOU would be. It is not how I am, and does not describe any atheist that I personally know.
Have you ever seen this with theists? I have. What does it mean? There are plenty of atheists in the military.
Give that some thought. They do not believe in an afterlife, usually, and yet still risk their lives to protect their country.I think this is again simply how you think you would behave if you stopped believing in your god.Just because something is unexplained does not mean that your imaginary friend did it. You have to have evidence equal to the claims being made, which you have not provided yet.I don’t think it is that simple, but I don’t see the point either so…??The flood in your storybooks paints your god as the biggest mass murderer ever…Mohamed could not match his murderous reputation.It’s not 21, it’s 72, and it’s not virgins, it’s raisins.Same as females in any religion - second-class treatment.Again, what is your point?They may be interesting questions, but they do not suggest that there is a god. If you discovered that the shroud of turin was the burial cloth of a jewish washerwoman would you then lose your faith in your god?I don’t seek a god because nothing in my experience suggests that there is a god.

Again I state that an Atheist is self centered and await proof that an Atheist in history, that remained an Atheist amounted to anything but for his or her own gains.

I have been in the military for 22 years and have not seen one so it definitely is not plenty. I think there has been one request in a federal grave yard for a non religious marker. Oh wait that was wicken.

Can you prove otherwise. I not only gave it thought I was in the Military.

Your statement esspecially plenty of Atheist in the military does not compute !!!

Again other than you seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling, or touch what evidence would that be, But wait I have given you the evidence of seeing through the miracles of the Saints (incorruptible bodies) evaluated and verified scientifically by 3rd party scientists and in no other religions has this been done. Eucharist miracles esspecially Luciano evaluated and verified by 3rd party scientists, The shroud and man not being able to re-create and if he could would not with out a doubt been able to even attempt to except in the past 100 years.I gave testimony of the bible and testimony of these occurences outside the bible, I have given evidence that makes arguments against such evidence illogical, I have given evidence of supernatural and natural.

So again what evidence will you accept? your quote is it?

(Quote)nothing in my experience suggests that there is a god.

So nothing in history unless you experenced it should you believe—right?

Nothing in science esspecially theories you have not experenced you should believe —right?

Aagain Jesus as man was not imaginary so what imaginary friend are you talking about?

 

[c659smith]

I think you are saying that if you had no belief in god that is how YOU would be. It is not how I am, and does not describe any atheist that I personally know.
Have you ever seen this with theists? I have. What does it mean? There are plenty of atheists in the military.
Give that some thought. They do not believe in an afterlife, usually, and yet still risk their lives to protect their country.I think this is again simply how you think you would behave if you stopped believing in your god.Just because something is unexplained does not mean that your imaginary friend did it. You have to have evidence equal to the claims being made, which you have not provided yet.I don’t think it is that simple, but I don’t see the point either so…??The flood in your storybooks paints your god as the biggest mass murderer ever…Mohamed could not match his murderous reputation.It’s not 21, it’s 72, and it’s not virgins, it’s raisins.Same as females in any religion - second-class treatment.Again, what is your point?They may be interesting questions, but they do not suggest that there is a god. If you discovered that the shroud of turin was the burial cloth of a jewish washerwoman would you then lose your faith in your god?I don’t seek a god because nothing in my experience suggests that there is a god.

The flood in your storybooks paints your god as the biggest mass murderer ever…Mohamed could not match his murderous reputation.

Your post above;

Again Mohammed murdering as a man and claiming to be a prophet professing to obey God’s Law “thou shall not murder”. How can someone professing God’s law Murder?

God till Jesus was not Human–but creator-- the world was evil and God destroyed it. His perogative.

 

[Righteousone]

I think you can add patronising and condescending to the list of things that you are. It is now becoming a rather substantial document.

Moreover, I have not formulated an opinion on your religion at all. I have defended my standpoint.

The point of Omar Sharif in the context of the discussion obviously flies past your head completely.

You say that Howard Storm’s testimony is evidence of Catholicism.

Then, by your own argument - Omar Sharif’s testimony is also evidence of Islam.

Take some logic classes.

I’m still waiting for you, by the way to substantiate and back up your accusations of what I am. Can you ever do that?

Speaking of flying past one’s head completely…:banghead: I never said that Howard Storm’s testimony is evidence of Catholicism, as he is a Protestant minister. I simply implied he was an avowed atheist, who died, went to hell and lived to tell about it.
Since someone once told you you were headstrong, did one ever tell you that for an 18 year old you are sort of obnoxious?

 

[_A]

Where is this so called ‘testimonial evidence’? For every word you say Catholicism is wrong, I’ll show you thrice fold it is the true church.

Except this is like beating a dead horse.

There are people who also offer testimonial evidence that Islam is the one true faith. There are more of them than there are Catholics. They therefore have more testimony.

Do you agree that testimonial evidence is meaningless when considering questions about gods?

 

[_A]

Ok, so this explains how you really haven’t experienced any life to even form an appropriate opinion on my religion. Talk to you in ten years. (Maybe less)…

I think your dismissal of someone because they are young is complete nonsense.
Please do go on, I would like everyone here to know how a person like you feels about things.

 

[Righteousone]

There are people who also offer testimonial evidence that Islam is the one true faith. There are more of them than there are Catholics. They therefore have more testimony.

Do you agree that testimonial evidence is meaningless when considering questions about gods?

Catholicism is the number one religion in the world. every 6th person is a Roman Catholic…Muslims are right behind us but not quite there yet…do your homework.

 

[_A]

We are talking about people who do not believe in any God. Omar has nothing to do with this. He left one faith and went to another. I am talking about atheists…don’t get off topic here.

You offered ‘evidence’ that an atheist had ‘gone over’ to faith as proof of your religion being the right one.
I mentioned that some catholics have gone over to Islam, so by your logic, Islam is now the right one.
Or your ‘evidence’ was worthless.
Which do you think?

 

[Righteousone]

I think your dismissal of someone because they are young is complete nonsense.
Please do go on, I would like everyone here to know how a person like you feels about things.

Ok, in your mind I guess an 18 year old is just as wise and knowledgeable as a person at say…age 40…smarten up. Your the one who looks like a fool here.

 

[c659smith]

Catholicism is the number one religion in the world. every 6th person is a Roman Catholic…Muslims are right behind us but not quite there yet…do your homework.

Also that is just Roman Catholics not including all christian faiths.
Roman Catholics alone is 1.2 billion

 

[_A]

again my point is one may die for a lie but 10 people would being dying and being killed for a lie at differnt times and places would be illogical.

So if 10 or more people died, say, in a domestic air attack based on their religious belief, that would logically mean that they were following the true faith, right smith?

 

[Righteousone]

You offered ‘evidence’ that an atheist had ‘gone over’ to faith as proof of your religion being the right one.
I mentioned that some catholics have gone over to Islam, so by your logic, Islam is now the right one.
Or your ‘evidence’ was worthless.
Which do you think?

I think that you have nothing better to do than to boast about your non-beliefs here and in which you try to break the people here that truly love Christ…not gonna happen.
Again (Mother of God), the atheist who died and came back to tell about it IS A PROTESTANT MINISTER. When did I show that my religion was correct as I spoke about this righteous man?

 

[c659smith]

There are people who also offer testimonial evidence that Islam is the one true faith. There are more of them than there are Catholics. They therefore have more testimony.

Do you agree that testimonial evidence is meaningless when considering questions about gods?

Yes but testimonial evidence must be logical and stand up to the test of logic and Islam does not.

 

[_A]

Since someone once told you you were headstrong, did one ever tell you that for an 18 year old you are sort of obnoxious?

Did anyone tell you that personal attacks on other members was welcome on this forum?
Why don’t you report yourself for this comment and find out if it is indeed ‘gentlemanly behaviour’.

 

[_A]

Catholicism is the number one religion in the world. every 6th person is a Roman Catholic…Muslims are right behind us but not quite there yet…do your homework.

So when there are more members of Islam will you convert?

 

[c659smith]

So if 10 or more people died, say, in a domestic air attack based on their religious belief, that would logically mean that they were following the true faith, right smith?

These Moslems died for a belief in what they were told not in what they claimed to have seen.

testing eyewitness testimony. They preeched to have seen Jesus resurrected, were tortured,stoned, and crucified for this testimony and did not refrain from this testimony under these conditions.

Big difference

 

[_A]

Ok, in your mind I guess an 18 year old is just as wise and knowledgeable as a person at say…age 40…smarten up. Your the one who looks like a fool here.

When conducting personal attacks such as this, it would be well to remember that you are offending your hosts every time you do it. Have you reported yourself yet?

 

[Righteousone]

Did anyone tell you that personal attacks on other members was welcome on this forum?
Why don’t you report yourself for this comment and find out if it is indeed ‘gentlemanly behaviour’.

The post was not intended for you…and talk about gentlemenly behavior. You’ve come on here, bashed my religion as well as the others. I cannot believe that there are 127 pages to this thread that is full of nothings and nonsense on the part of all you atheists. I am done here. I will pray for your soul. Good luck seeing the face of Christ…then having it pass right by you.