I am bothered by why some Baptists...

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blackstone:
I have only time for one short comment. Not all the early chruch fathers were in one hundred percent agreement on very single bit of church dogma.
Right. But when the Church comes together in her bishops to define something, then that position becomes definitive. As you follow the history of dogma, you see that definitions arose out of controversy. The Church generally does not nail something down until there is a dispute over an issue that would jeopardize a key element of the faith, such as the doctrine of God.
 
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blackstone:
Let me just say that I personally do not know of any Baptists that have converted to Catholic. In my study of religions I find no need to.(convert that is). Being a Baptist is the closes think to being in a first cenutary church.
Well, I’m not a Catholic, but I’m not so ignorant as to suggest that Baptists are even remotely synonymous with the Early Church. The earliest known Christian document, the Didache (Di-da-kee), written ca. AD 50, is traditionally attested as the writings of the Apostles concerning salvation, damnation, and the way a church should be organised, and run. I think the Baptists wouldn’t recognize the Church if they saw it being practiced as it was in the Early Church; that is, the way the Didache lays it out.

Christopher J. Freeman
 
I am a Baptist but I have to tell ya. It isnt about Baptist. I disagree with some of the Baptist decisions because they arnt biblical. Anyhow I follow Christ and his teachings. Not the man behind the pulpit because that what he is a man. We all fail and need to repent for doing so.
 
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seetiger33:
I am a Baptist but I have to tell ya. It isnt about Baptist. I disagree with some of the Baptist decisions because they arnt biblical. Anyhow I follow Christ and his teachings. Not the man behind the pulpit because that what he is a man. We all fail and need to repent for doing so.
A passage for you in regards to listening to your pastor, and by implication the need for an undivided Church: Luke 10:16.

Christopher J. Freeman
 
We don’t just follow men either, Catholics believe they have the understanding of the faith from the apostles, that is how they understand the Bible.

All Catholics are called to repent and confess their sins, just like the Bible says.

We follow Christ teachings and His Church He founded, I invite you to look into where the Bible came from and how the Church decided it’s canon.

God Bless
Scylla
 
Catholic Heart:
Blackstone…You may have a good point. My own sister and her husband are members of a Baptist church, but are no more Baptist than I am…

I thnk you could safely say that many people who claim to be of one denomination or another are not really grounded in their faith. Catholics are nortorius for this…That’s why so many Cathoilcs become evangelicals…They do not know their faith well enough to effectively refute evalgelical claims and criticisms.

Having worked with the RCIA for a number of years I can attest to the fact that we DO take in a lot of so-called Baptists. Most, of course, are interested in becoming Cathoilc because of family issues, but there they are…They are often very open to our faith, and eager to learn…They ask lots of questions, too!
It’s funny…when I considered converting and taking RCIA the priest told me - “yes, we see many Baptists coming to Catholicism”. I’m a life-long Southern Baptist - deeply rooted and knowledgeable about the Baptist faith. Baptists do convert to Catholicism more so than people think. I was ALMOST living proof of that.

Peace…
 
So ahimsaman72 are you still Baptist? Or have you gone for something more liturgical?

In Christ,
Scylla
 
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blackstone:
Let me just say that I personally do not know of any Baptists that have converted to Catholic. In my study of religions I find no need to.(convert that is). Being a Baptist is the closes think to being in a first cenutary church.
Your prfile says you hav eno religion - why would you care?
 
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scylla:
So ahimsaman72 are you still Baptist? Or have you gone for something more liturgical?

In Christ,
Scylla
Yes - still Baptist. I love the liturgy of other denoms, but considering everything me and my family would have to go through isn’t worth it. I mean, none of my kids are baptized. Me and my wife are baptized. We “dedicated” all our children.

If we were to switch to Methodist, Episcopal or Lutheran, we would have to baptize children and go through classes. At this point, my wife is not open to these things.

Peace…
 
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ahimsaman72:
Yes - still Baptist. I love the liturgy of other denoms, but considering everything me and my family would have to go through isn’t worth it. I mean, none of my kids are baptized. Me and my wife are baptized. We “dedicated” all our children.

If we were to switch to Methodist, Episcopal or Lutheran, we would have to baptize children and go through classes. At this point, my wife is not open to these things.

Peace…
Having the fullness of the faith isn’t worth it to you?? Why did you quit RCIA?

My prayers are with your family… :gopray:
 
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blackstone:
I have only time for one short comment. Not all the early chruch fathers were in one hundred percent agreement on very single bit of church dogma.
But as Pope Benedict XVI explains, it is our duty to submit to the Church, even if we might not personally like a particular teaching.

One of my favorite examples is St. Jerome. He favored the shorter Jewish canon. But he tranlated into latin the entire old testament including the deutero’s.
 
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RCCDefender:
Having the fullness of the faith isn’t worth it to you?? Why did you quit RCIA?

My prayers are with your family… :gopray:
I could not come to grips with certain dogmas that were incumbent on me to believe. I felt like they were stray doctrines that weren’t necessary for salvation (none that I will go into here).

What’s not worth it is losing my marriage and causing unaltering pain for my children. Families have to make decisions regarding spiritual matters together and we could not come to agreement on some things.

I left RCIA, but with the door always to remain open should things be different. I value the Catholic faith. I just do not/can not agree with it nor follow it. I ended up trusting what I believed the Scriptures teach and upon investigation did not see my salvation at risk.

Thanks for your prayers 👍

God bless…
 
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seetiger33:
I am a Baptist but I have to tell ya. It isnt about Baptist. I disagree with some of the Baptist decisions because they arnt biblical. Anyhow I follow Christ and his teachings. Not the man behind the pulpit because that what he is a man. We all fail and need to repent for doing so.
If the truth isn’t in the Baptist church why are you Baptist?

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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ahimsaman72:
Yes - still Baptist. I love the liturgy of other denoms, but considering everything me and my family would have to go through isn’t worth it. I mean, none of my kids are baptized. Me and my wife are baptized. We “dedicated” all our children.

If we were to switch to Methodist, Episcopal or Lutheran, we would have to baptize children and go through classes. At this point, my wife is not open to these things.

Peace…
Receiving the fullness of truth isn’t worth whatever your family would have to go through??

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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ahimsaman72:
I ended up trusting what I believed the Scriptures teach…
Herein lies the essential difference between Catholicism and Protestantism.

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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Elliott:
Cut him some slack. His intentions are good. He is trying to convert us to the one true church…the baptist church.
Which Baptist church? The strong one or the weak one? The true one or the false one? The one invented yesterday or the one invented tomorrow? The one that praises the KJV or the one that says it’s bad and uses the NIV? I am so lost in the Baptist confussion…:whacky:

I am sooooo confused hear? I gues that’s why I left the Baptist cult and became Catholic too!

Praise God!
 
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ahimsaman72:
… We “dedicated” all our children…
Where in the Bible is that?:hmmm: I used to think you were a Bible believing Christian opposed to man-made tradition? I admit, I was wrong on that one.:o

Gods peace to you,

JMJ
 
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ahimsaman72:
I could not come to grips with certain dogmas that were incumbent on me to believe. I felt like they were stray doctrines that weren’t necessary for salvation (none that I will go into here).

What’s not worth it is losing my marriage and causing unaltering pain for my children. Families have to make decisions regarding spiritual matters together and we could not come to agreement on some things.

I left RCIA, but with the door always to remain open should things be different. I value the Catholic faith. I just do not/can not agree with it nor follow it. I ended up trusting what I believed the Scriptures teach and upon investigation did not see my salvation at risk.

Thanks for your prayers 👍

God bless…
I am sorry that you had to leave Rcia due to your family obligations. Perhaps one day they will want to convert. I am not going to criticize your decision. Having a spouse that would divorce you-I gather that is what you meant- over such spiritual matters must be painful. You will be in my prayers.
 
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Catholic4aReasn:
Receiving the fullness of truth isn’t worth whatever your family would have to go through??

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
Having divorced parents and being pulled back and forth is not what I believe God would want for us and our kids.

Peace…
 
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Catholic4aReasn:
Herein lies the essential difference between Catholicism and Protestantism.

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
Yes, that’s very true. I agree with that.

Peace…
 
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