I am confused about this idea of sex reassignment surgery

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phil19034 said:
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Alex337:
s homosexuality and trans* people have existed through history and across culture I doubt it’s environmental.
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This doesn’t make any sense. Environmental causes doesn’t necessarily mean literally from the physical environment. It also means from parents / family / society / etc.

500 years ago it was equally as possible as today for parents/family to have preferred one sex over another, potentially screwing up a young child.

Of course in the past, there wasn’t the pill, but that doesn’t mean that the child rearing environment might not be the issue.
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And across cultures? There are many, many different ways to rear a child and they can all produce trans* children? And people who seem to know their gender from a particularly young age? And the many, many instances where being trans* actively aggravates the family?
 
PureKathleen46 said:
In my humble opinion, i believe there is so much fear of their homosexual lifestyle that they try to cover it up by trying to be of another sex. Hence surgery. No one can change whatGod has made!
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Except that gay trans* people exist. And it is far, far, far easier to be gay on today’s world than trans*.
 
Alex337 said:
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phil19034:
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Alex337:
s homosexuality and trans* people have existed through history and across culture I doubt it’s environmental.
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This doesn’t make any sense. Environmental causes doesn’t necessarily mean literally from the physical environment. It also means from parents / family / society / etc.

500 years ago it was equally as possible as today for parents/family to have preferred one sex over another, potentially screwing up a young child.

Of course in the past, there wasn’t the pill, but that doesn’t mean that the child rearing environment might not be the issue.
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And across cultures? There are many, many different ways to rear a child and they can all produce trans* children? And people who seem to know their gender from a particularly young age? And the many, many instances where being trans* actively aggravates the family?
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Yes, across cultures. Culture really has nothing to do with it.

If you are a little boy, and your grandmother constantly told you that she wished you were a girl and sometimes had you try on girls clothes (like a trans* I heard once giving his story) then it very well might screw that boy up, regardless of culture.
 
PureKathleen46 said:
In my humble opinion, i believe there is so much fear of their homosexual lifestyle that they try to cover it up by trying to be of another sex. Hence surgery.
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Yeah? Then how do you explain the several I know who were guys, transitioned to female, and continued to have relationships with women, only now they are same-sex relationships?

Trans is not about sexual partner preferences.
 
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phil19034 said:
I strongly believe the increase in divorce and Borge parents working have potentially played a role in the increase of this, homosexuality, and of mental disorders.

Finally, I also question if the birth control pill may be having a negative impact on our younger generations, perhaps being a reason for not just an increase in transgenderness, but also homosexuality, violence, food allergies, etc
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Has there really been an increase in gender dysphoria, homosexuality, and mental disorders or has it just become more visible. Until the last couple of decades, a lot of LGBT people were still in the closet. And when it comes to mental conditions, many of these were probably underdiagnosed in the past and are still underdiagnosed. For example, even now it is estimated that only about 20 percent of adults with ADHD have actually been diagnosed for it.

And assuming that pills or some other substance that mothers are exposed to is responsible for the things that you mention, why do you think that it has anything to do with birth control pills? Maybe it’s because of antidepressants or because of the BPA or phthalates used in plastics, or one of many other subtances.
 
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phil19034 said:
Yes, across cultures. Culture really has nothing to do with it.

If you are a little boy, and your grandmother constantly told you that she wished you were a girl and sometimes had you try on girls clothes (like a trans* I heard once giving his story) then it very well might screw that boy up, regardless of culture.
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Culture has a lot to do with it as it defines how the children are raised. Different cultures may raise their children entirely separate.

I know for more trans* folk who were slapped for expressing interests outside of their assigned gender than encouraged. This seems very unlikely. And if all it took was someone telling them that then surely society telling them three opposite would fix it.

(Quick thing “a trans*” is not a term, they’re a trans* person. You wouldn’t say “a gay”, would you? )
 
Alex337 said:
Culture has a lot to do with it as it defines how the children are raised. Different cultures may raise their children entirely separate.
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Yes, but that was NOT my point. My point was that any parent or family member from any culture could potentially have a preference for a child from a certain sex which could potentially screw up a child.

Again: I wasn’t taking about cultural norms. I was describing instances where family members consciously or subconsciously prefer children of the opposite sex from the child shows preference to children of one sex over another, and the child of the “disliked” sex picks up on that at a young age. And the one example I have is where the grandmother told her grandson often that she wished he was a girl, and sometimes had him try on girl’s clothing. That man attempted suicide multiple times, had a sex change, lived as a woman, and then had another sex change to change back into a man when his suicidal thoughts returned.
 
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CatholicAMMO said:
Yeah, good luck. There’s really no good reason to “transition.” God made them Male and Female. Original Sin tainted the natural order. The biggest challenge is for all to live chastely in a world torn at the “sexual seams” and still be loving to one another.

Stay Locked, Loaded, and Ready
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I dont’ think it has to do with living chastely. The transgender people I know are much more preoccupied with feeling they are in the wrong body. It doesn’t really have a lot to do with sexual desire or attraction. Of course, this is just anectdotal based on those I have known, personally. I took biology for business majors, so I don’t claim to have a whole lot of scientific knowledge on the topic.
 
AnnaTheCat said:
Because the ‘scientific community’ are almost all Humanist liberal ideologues indoctrinated in left-wing, state-sponsored cult institutions and they’re afraid to say anything because their tenure and reputation depend on the good will of PC authoritarian nutjobs.
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That is a pretty offensive assumption.

Or maybe some of them are Catholic and the rest are people who belong to one of thousands of different religions which believe in things differently than the Catholic Church. And many, also, who don’t subscribe to any religion.

Fixed that for you.
 
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phil19034 said:
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Alex337:
Culture has a lot to do with it as it defines how the children are raised. Different cultures may raise their children entirely separate.
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Yes, but that was NOT my point. My point was that any parent or family member from any culture could potentially have a preference for a child from a certain sex which could potentially screw up a child.

Again: I wasn’t taking about cultural norms. I was describing instances where family members consciously or subconsciously prefer children of the opposite sex from the child shows preference to children of one sex over another, and the child of the “disliked” sex picks up on that at a young age. And the one example I have is where the grandmother told her grandson often that she wished he was a girl, and sometimes had him try on girl’s clothing. That man attempted suicide multiple times, had a sex change, lived as a woman, and then had another sex change to change back into a man when his suicidal thoughts returned.
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Yes, but what about cultures where that child is raised by the whole community?

And surely if one person could influence then all of society could as well?
 
Alex337 said:
Though fewer it would seem. And just because people dispute a thing does not make it wrong, look at climate change.
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Climate change is accurate.

Global warming - which I believe is what you’re actually speaking of - is an unproven theory.

There is a difference.

Just because people believe in something doesn’t mean it’s the best choice long term, either.
 
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Pup7 said:
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Alex337:
Though fewer it would seem. And just because people dispute a thing does not make it wrong, look at climate change.
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Climate change is accurate.

Global warming - which I believe is what you’re actually speaking of - is an unproven theory.

There is a difference.
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You seem to be actively changing my words in order to disagree with me?
 
People who believe things differently than the Catholic Church are wrong.
That aside, it is simply a fact that a fair majority of “scientists” are indoctrinated into liberalism and atheistic humanism (in the American sense) and that most academics are either themselves exalters of this view or afraid to contradict it for career and social pressure reasons.
It is an objective fact that academia is heavily state-financed, heavily influenced by political correctness, heavily atheistic and even anti-Christian, and heavily leftist. There is no credible way to deny this.
 
No, I’m not changing your words. It’s two separate ideas.

Climate does change - which likely why groups are changing the terminology regarding global warming. You’d have to be pretty obstinate to deny that natural climate change is normal - one only needs to look to the last Ice Age and how different it is now to see that’s fact.

Global warming, which essentially blames man for climate change, is a massive theory.

Back to the thread.
 
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