I believe Jesus was never a god who became man

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Hi friend /brother swariffin!

Don’t be angry; an angry man/woman loses the substance in the posts. Please remain cool; as you have ever been. May God Allah YHWH bless you!

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I don’t know, brother. I have a feeling that you put me in your ignore list, since you never answer many of my questions. But, to tell you the truth, I am not angry. You may say anything bad about Jesus, and I believe that Jesus will forgive you. If I believe that Jesus will forgive you, why I should be angry to you??
 
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planten or parsurrey? tell me is your founder of your religion buried in the ground as one poster mentioned earlier?

If he is why are you following a dead man?

If he is not, where is he, and who speaks to him? can you educate me here on your belief’s.
 
planten;4778099:
**Gabriel, our prophet (Muhammad) is not dead. But your prophet Jesus is dead. The proof of the living prophet is in the Revelation and Ilhaam that his followers are even receiving today. The followers of Muhammad have been blessed with the news of the unseen in all ages upto now.
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If he is why are you following a dead man?
When our prophet is not dead in spiritual sense then we have no problem. But if you mean the real death then our prophet Muhammad has died a natural death and so has Jesus.Jesus has also died a natural death at the age of 120 years. Jesus is also buried now.
If he is not, where is he, and who speaks to him? can you educate me here on your belief’s.
** If our prophet is not dead then you want to know “Where is he?” Well he is buried in the ground at Madinah. Nobody speaks to him now, nor does he speak to any one any more… But God speaks to us because of our love for our prophet Muhammad…

Our God (Allah) is a loving God who can forgive sins without the blood of any one on the cross. WE believe that it is no use punishing (killing) George to cure the ailments of Peter. I hope you undertand that every one will have to bear the burden of his own deeds. The suffering of Jesus on the cross could not cure the ills of others unless they repent and return to God. We love Jesus and Mary more than the Catholics hate our prophet Muhammad. **.
 
Gabriel of 12;4785269:
**Gabriel, our prophet (Muhammad) is not dead. But your prophet Jesus is dead. The proof of the living prophet is in the Revelation and Ilhaam that his followers are even receiving today. The followers of Muhammad have been blessed with the news of the unseen in all ages upto now.

That is the proof that our prophet is still living. But your prophet Jesus is dead. His followers are not getting any news rom God now.

So as far as the continuation of the spiritual inheritance is concerned,our prophet is still alive. Otherwise all prophets including Jesus and Muhammad have passed away,never to come back personally in this world again**
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When our prophet is not dead in spiritual sense then we have no problem. But if you mean the real death then our prophet Muhammad has died a natural death and so has Jesus.Jesus has also died a natural death at the age of 120 years. Jesus is also buried now.

** If our prophet is not dead then you want to know “Where is he?” Well he is buried in the ground at Madinah. Nobody speaks to him now, nor does he speak to any one any more… But God speaks to us because of our love for our prophet Muhammad…

Our God (Allah) is a loving God who can forgive sins without the blood of any one on the cross. WE believe that it is no use punishing (killing) George to cure the ailments of Peter. I hope you undertand that every one will have to bear the burden of his own deeds. The suffering of Jesus on the cross could not cure the ills of others unless they repent and return to God. We love Jesus and Mary more than the Catholics hate our prophet Muhammad. **.

Your prophet died by poisoning by one of the women he abused. There was nothing ‘natural’ in that. He didn’t die to save others from sin, he didn’t die to bring the light of God into the world, he didn’t die for anything other than a woman, who was abused by him, poisoning him because he did despicable deeds.

Your note is really something else. Did you forget the Resurrection of Jesus? There were witnesses to that.

You guys have been told over and over again that Jesus didn’t die at 120 years old, or that he never went to India - but it doesn’t matter - you won’t read the Bible to find out the truth but instead keep bringing up some half-baked story that you heard or read somewhere.

We read your surahs and hadiths, and also the sira, and you cannot handle that we have found out that mohammed behaved poorly. In fact, you haven’t even read bad things about Jesus in those texts - even though the stories are not the true stories from the Bible. You have never proven the Bible was corrupted.

Your allah has already predestined you to heaven or hell - so why do you worry whether or not it forgives sins? Why do jihadists blow themselves up for it? Or do anything since they are already determined to go to heaven or hell, according to islam/mohammed?

Your assertions about allah don’t make sense.
 
Paarsurrey <-------------------Is definetely a Heathen.

I would suggest to all my Catholic brothers and sisters to not engage with this lunatic. It’s times like this that I wish the Inquisition was still going on. Honestly, these Muslims have the best of both worlds. We cannot say anything to them and they feel they can attack us literally and figuratively. I would further suggest you go take your heathen behind to a nice Muslim country and start plotting your next terrorist plot. Oh and Prophet Mohammed was a pedophile, rapist and a heathen. These points are all common knowledge. In fact, if it were not a part of our Catechism…I would not even acknowledge your “faith tradition”.
 
Paarsurrey <-------------------Is definetely a Heathen.

I would suggest to all my Catholic brothers and sisters to not engage with this lunatic. It’s times like this that I wish the Inquisition was still going on. Honestly, these Muslims have the best of both worlds. We cannot say anything to them and they feel they can attack us literally and figuratively. I would further suggest you go take your heathen behind to a nice Muslim country and start plotting your next terrorist plot. Oh and Prophet Mohammed was a pedophile, rapist and a heathen. These points are all common knowledge. In fact, if it were not a part of our Catechism…I would not even acknowledge your “faith tradition”.
agree lets start today
 
Paarsurrey <-------------------Is definetely a Heathen.

I would suggest to all my Catholic brothers and sisters to not engage with this lunatic. It’s times like this that I wish the Inquisition was still going on. Honestly, these Muslims have the best of both worlds. We cannot say anything to them and they feel they can attack us literally and figuratively. I would further suggest you go take your heathen behind to a nice Muslim country and start plotting your next terrorist plot. Oh and Prophet Mohammed was a pedophile, rapist and a heathen. These points are all common knowledge. In fact, if it were not a part of our Catechism…I would not even acknowledge your “faith tradition”.
Naw, we don’t need an Inquisition to do things. That is basically repeating a part of history that our descendents don’t need to apologize for like some do now with the old Inquisition. And the critics bloat the figures and the rest of its history to serve their own purpose.

There will always people who take on people like paarsurrey. The only person you can control is yourself. don’t be like the muslims (and our left wingers) who think they should control people who disagree with them. That path is worse than the Inquisition.

And I never put anyone on ignore since I want to know what they say no matter how weird and tiring.
 
Paarsurrey <-------------------Is definetely a Heathen.

I would suggest to all my Catholic brothers and sisters to not engage with this lunatic. It’s times like this that I wish the Inquisition was still going on. Honestly, these Muslims have the best of both worlds. We cannot say anything to them and they feel they can attack us literally and figuratively. I would further suggest you go take your heathen behind to a nice Muslim country and start plotting your next terrorist plot. Oh and Prophet Mohammed was a pedophile, rapist and a heathen. These points are all common knowledge. In fact, if it were not a part of our Catechism…I would not even acknowledge your “faith tradition”.
Hi

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim. We don’t believe in any inquisition. This is an era of reasoning started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908. I think you don’t fin any reasonable arguments to support and strengthen your faith and hence you think on these lines.

Please have a heart and concentrate on good rational arguments. Have a little search, please, and open up your mind.

I love Jesus

Thanks
 
Hi

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim. We don’t believe in any inquisition. This is an era of reasoning started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908. I think you don’t fin any reasonable arguments to support and strengthen your faith and hence you think on these lines.
I have an off topic question - what is this “Second Coming 1835-1908” Is this a person? time period? I’m just confused because I can’t figure it out based on the different contexts in which it has been used. Thank you.
 
I have an off topic question - what is this “Second Coming 1835-1908” Is this a person? time period? I’m just confused because I can’t figure it out based on the different contexts in which it has been used. Thank you.
Hi

Jesus’ Second Coming has taken place in the symbolic form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, like Elijah’s second coming took place in the symbolic form of John the Baptist, and it was acceptable to Jesus. Elijah did not come from the skies or heaven for second coming before Jesus as was prophesized but John the Baptist was declared as Elijah by Jesus.

I think it helps

I love Jesus

Thanks
 
Hi

Jesus’ Second Coming has taken place in the symbolic form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, like Elijah’s second coming took place in the symbolic form of John the Baptist, and it was acceptable to Jesus. Elijah did not come from the skies or heaven for second coming before Jesus as was prophesized but John the Baptist was declared as Elijah by Jesus.

I think it helps

I love Jesus

Thanks
Are you saying that according to your ProphetMessenger, Jesus is greater than Muhammad?
 
Because you said that your ProphetMessenger believes that he is rather be the second coming of Jesus, than Muhammad.
Hi

Since, it is in symbolic terms, Ahmad 1835-1908 is the second coming of both Jesus and Muhammad. As a second coming of Jesus, he is the Promised Messiah and as second coming of Muhammad he is Imam Mahdi.

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Hi

Since, it is in symbolic terms, Ahmad 1835-1908 is the second coming of both Jesus and Muhammad. As a second coming of Jesus, he is the Promised Messiah and as second coming of Muhammad he is Imam Mahdi.

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What is the difference between a messiah and a imam mahdi ??

And do you need both ??
 
What is the difference between a messiah and a imam mahdi ??

And do you need both ??
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The universal reformer who was to come as a successor of Muhammad in the end times among his followers, as prophesized by Muhammad, was to be guided by God Allah YHWH, directly by a Word of Revelation; in that sense he is named Al-Imam-ul-Mahdi or the DivineGuided.

When the DivineGuided was to come, at that as a sign it was mentioned by Muhammad, Anti-Christ was also to come which was mentioned in spritual terms as Dajjal or GreatDeceiver (hiding behind and in the name Christ) of as a Power in the material World from the nations of Gog Megog.

To break the Charismatic power of this Materialistic GreatDeceiver or Anti-Christ, the DivineGuided was given another name Messiah or Christ, spiritually or symbolically.

So, Al-Imam-ul-Mahdi and the Promised Messiah or Second Coming are the symbolic name of the same person who lived here from 1835-1908.

Please don’t mind; no intention is made to hurt anybody’s feelings; we are just discussing things to find the truth. One may stick to one’s own beliefs steadfasty with sound reasons, please.

I love Jesus

Thanks
 
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Hi

The above does not represent views of all the non-Catholics. I love Jesus and his true teachings but I don’t believe that Jesus was ever a god who became man. Jesus had no explicit claim to it except some obscure statements narrated by others who misunderstood him. This is my sincere opinion, however, no disrespect is intended to anybody’s faith or creed.

I love Jesus and Krishna

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I suppose you’re entitled to believe whatever you wish. :coffeeread:
 
"I believe Jesus was never a god who became man "

So very true. If only more would believe that, the world would be less delusional and more rational.
 
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