I can't forgive my cousin

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I agree your sister and your priest should be there. She needs to see that this is more than just your word not that that’s not good enough but this is going to be a difficult thing for her to comprehend. Your priest can be there to support you and also help her deal with the fact that she fell in love with a sexual abuser.
 
Nicole777,
My wife and I are praying for you. This was not your fault (or your sister’s). God bless you on your journey.
 
I already know that they are going to blame me and any sister, I am trying to prepare myself mentally and emotionally for that. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if my father punished me or something when he finds out I’ve told the priest. :mad: I do know that I have a right to be angry though, and I feel like talking to the priest and to people on this website has empowered me.
I can SO relate to you. I don’t understand what is wrong with your dad. My mom did a number on me, too. When I told her what her husband, step-father, had done, her response was that I was lieing! :mad: His 16 yo daughter had to tell my mother that I was telling the truth. Then she made me go and tell HIM what I had just told her! Of course he lied, " I didn’t do that." " I couldn’t have done that" " I was drunk, I don’t remember". Then she stayed with him. I found out later that she called my grandparents about getting money to send me to boarding school. When they found out why, they hit the roof. My grandma was ready to come and get me and bring me to her house across state lines! My grandpa stopped her since she could get arrested for kidnapping. They ended up giving my mom money to get out of that house instead. What I don’t understand is why none of them told my DAD! He was totally clueless. In fact, I didn’t even know that anyone in my family knew until I went to visit with them when I was 22. No one talked about it. My mom said that she never got me help or talked about it because I didn’t bring it up. Like I would after her initial reaction! Get Real!

On the positive side, I had a boyfriend of a friend hit on me in college when she was away doing a co-op. I was afraid to tell her about it because of my past experiences. Well, when she started to talk seriously about him and spending the rest of her life with him. I couldn’t be silent. I had to tell her. So, I did fully expecting to loose our friendship. She listened to me and then THANKED me for telling her. She believed me. I didn’t know how to handle that. She broke up with him the next day. We are still friends to this day. She is married to my husbands best friend from high school and they have 3 beautiful children. I am so glad that I did speak up. The old bf actually threatened me afterwards and it was very scary at the time. But, I got through it and have my friend.
 
I got this from another Catholic list that I am on. I thought that you might like this prayer.

"Here is another good prayer that will come in handy.
For those suffering from the stress of the times and daily life.

PRAYER FOR PEACE… OF MIND AND HEART

Eternal, Holy God, I come to You burdened with
worries, fears, doubts and troubles. Calm and
quiet me with peace of mind. Empty me of the
anxiety that disturbs me, of the concerns that
weary my spirit, and weigh heavy on my heart.

Loosen my grip on the disappointments and
grievances I hold on to so tightly. Release me
from the pain of past hurts, of present anger
and tension, of future fears.

Sometimes it’s too much for me Lord -
too many demands and problems -
too much sadness, suffering, and stress.

Renew me spiritually and emotionally.
Give me new strength, hope, and confidence.
Prepare me to meet the constant struggles of
daily life with a deeper faith and trust in You.

Let your love set me free… for peace, for joy,
for grace, for life, for others…forever. Amen.
A Capuchin prayer given to me after confession by Fr. Johnson on
7-10-2000

PRAY! HOPE! and DON’T
WORRY PEACE! LOVE! and JOY!

LoveYa with Prayers,
J and M"
 
I can SO relate to you. I don’t understand what is wrong with your dad. My mom did a number on me, too. When I told her what her husband, step-father, had done, her response was that I was lieing! :mad: His 16 yo daughter had to tell my mother that I was telling the truth. Then she made me go and tell HIM what I had just told her! Of course he lied, " I didn’t do that." " I couldn’t have done that" " I was drunk, I don’t remember". Then she stayed with him. I found out later that she called my grandparents about getting money to send me to boarding school. When they found out why, they hit the roof. My grandma was ready to come and get me and bring me to her house across state lines! My grandpa stopped her since she could get arrested for kidnapping. They ended up giving my mom money to get out of that house instead. What I don’t understand is why none of them told my DAD! He was totally clueless. In fact, I didn’t even know that anyone in my family knew until I went to visit with them when I was 22. No one talked about it. My mom said that she never got me help or talked about it because I didn’t bring it up. Like I would after her initial reaction! Get Real!

On the positive side, I had a boyfriend of a friend hit on me in college when she was away doing a co-op. I was afraid to tell her about it because of my past experiences. Well, when she started to talk seriously about him and spending the rest of her life with him. I couldn’t be silent. I had to tell her. So, I did fully expecting to loose our friendship. She listened to me and then THANKED me for telling her. She believed me. I didn’t know how to handle that. She broke up with him the next day. We are still friends to this day. She is married to my husbands best friend from high school and they have 3 beautiful children. I am so glad that I did speak up. The old bf actually threatened me afterwards and it was very scary at the time. But, I got through it and have my friend.
What is wrong with these parents…!!! :banghead:
God bless you for telling your friend about her nasty boyfriend.
 
Nothing in my attempt to take an objective stance should make your skin crawl. I am as moved by this injustice as anyone, but I prefer to act on reason and not emotion. Many ‘child molester’s,’ as you’ve termed them, act infrequently (not that this should be a defence, but also not to vilanize an individual either for Christ’s sake, or because of some pathology). You don’t know what this man’s heart is, and nothing is too bad for us to forgive. I can’t imagine reading such foolishness from a Christian.
You are OBVIOUSLY not a parent! And if you are, I pity your children.

You have obviously never known anyone who was sexually molested as a child, or you would know the kind of destruction, self-loathing, fear, trauma it causes.

If she had taken your advice, and her violent cousin decided to protect his secret at all costs, wouldn’t you feel like you had blood on your hands? If not, you’re in serious denial.

There is no objective stance when dealing with a child molester. You do whatever you can (legally) to stop them, lock them up for as long as you can, and tell as many people as you can who and what the person is, to protect children.

Regardless of motivations, they know their actions are wrong. That’s why they work so hard to HIDE them!

http://bestsmileys.com/puking/5.gif Sympathy for child molesters… gah.
 
http://bestsmileys.com/puking/5.gif Sympathy for child molesters… gah.
Doesn’t Christ say, whatever we do to the least we do to Him? (I’m paraphrasing obviously). I don’t think that we should encourage someone to have angry, unforgiving feelings towards someone despite what they have done to them.

Nicole, I’m praying for you and for your sister…you are very brave for what you are doing. I can’t relate specifically, just the anger that family has towards me…but I am glad that you got advice from your priest and I hope that things go smoothly and that your family, the fiancee, and your cousin all surprise us all. As someone stated earlier, forgiveness is for YOU, not for them.

Again, you are in my prayers!
 
Doesn’t Christ say, whatever we do to the least we do to Him? (I’m paraphrasing obviously). I don’t think that we should encourage someone to have angry, unforgiving feelings towards someone despite what they have done to them.
Christ also said something about a millstone around the neck of someone who scandalizes one of the little ones.

Don’t “camp out” on one verse; that can lead to erroneous private interpretation.
 
As far as the fiancee…please pray about this and be open to God’s will. The fact that all of this is finally being talked about now before the wedding may not be a coincidence. Perhaps this is the Holy Spirit trying to get you to say something? She has a right to know the kind of person she is getting married to. You said you do not feel comfortable talking to his fiancee…are they being married by a priest? Perhaps you could make an appointment to contact the priest?

I will pray for you. Remember that Jesus loves you so much and he desires the best for you. Turn to him in your sorrow and frustration and anger and mixed feelings, he will help I promise.

God bless
I’ll admit that I haven’t finished reading all the responses to your original post so forgive me if this has already been said, but it bares repeating if it has. I totally agree with Monicad that this may not be coincidence that all this is coming open now before the wedding. You have already learned that your cousin has issues with molesting little girls from your own experiences and your little sister. What would happen if your cousin had little girls?

While we can never know what is in another person’s heart of hearts and it is possible that he may have reformed and its possible that he may have already told his fiance about this. At the same time, as the mother of a little girl who’s biological father is every bit a worthless piece of **** with no reguard for women whatsoever, I wish someone would have told me what kind of person he was before I allowed myself into a relationship with him. I thank God daily that I realized what a horrible person he was before my daughter was born and that I was able to get away before he could hurt her.

I would pray over this and if you aren’t comfortable confronting him or his fiance about this perhaps there’s someone who would be? Like Monicad suggested, perhaps a Priest or a third party?

God Bless you in these struggles! :gopray:
 
You are OBVIOUSLY not a parent! And if you are, I pity your children.

You have obviously never known anyone who was sexually molested as a child, or you would know the kind of destruction, self-loathing, fear, trauma it causes.

If she had taken your advice, and her violent cousin decided to protect his secret at all costs, wouldn’t you feel like you had blood on your hands? If not, you’re in serious denial.

There is no objective stance when dealing with a child molester. You do whatever you can (legally) to stop them, lock them up for as long as you can, and tell as many people as you can who and what the person is, to protect children.

Regardless of motivations, they know their actions are wrong. That’s why they work so hard to HIDE them!

http://bestsmileys.com/puking/5.gif Sympathy for child molesters… gah.
I’m not denying the terrible nature of the crime. You say things like “lock them up as long as you can” and “tell as many people as you can.” This is not the objective voice of reason. The judicial system implements a course of action based on the seriousness of the crime and the probability of recidivism. It’s awful, it’s awulf, it’s awful - But, I’m not convinced that this person is a high-risk offender. Confidentiality is a right to all people if they’re deemed unlikely to reoffend. This is not to say sweep it under the rug. People working to hide their misdeeds isn’t necessarily indicative of guilt either - it’s often the case that people hide things because they merely know that their behaviour is socially-undesirable (and as you know, something can be socially undesirable without being wrong per se). You’ve much to learn about Pedophilia from a clinical perspective. And not that I should get into too much detail, because it’s not my place to do so on this forum, but can you know for certain that I don’t understand the destruction, self-loathing, fear, and trauma it causes? Can you know that I don’t understand it first hand even? I don’t sympathize with people who molest children - I can’t bring harmony between what they see and what I see - but I can empathize with them: they’re in a position they ought not to be; I have pity that they are. And may God have as much love and mercy for them as you and I.

In any event, If you read above, you’ll see that this argument has been digested thoroughly already. I understand your concern and I’m sorry to have offended you.
 
Well, considering the FBI considers this the most serious crime after murder, yet consider how many rapists get away with what they did, due to biased juries and more concern about what the woman was wearing than what the man actually did, a lot of us DO think these people are dangerous. Because they do it AGAIN when they get out of jail. And if people don’t know, their kids could be at risk.

What matters is they’ve done it. And if they can’t stop themselves, all the more reason to keep them away…If they have actually done it, if they truly want to repent, they should not marry, nor have any possibility of having their own children, because there is too much risk. Nor should they be around children. And people should know. And it’s one thing to say, “I’m sorry I hurt you, let me do things to make it right.” It’s another thing to bully two small children into not telling.
 
Christ also said something about a millstone around the neck of someone who scandalizes one of the little ones.

Don’t “camp out” on one verse; that can lead to erroneous private interpretation.
I am not “camping out” on any one verse. I certainly think that Nicole and her sister have every reason to be angry and feel hurt about this. I think that it was wise of her to tell her priest, I hope someone goes to the authorities (more than that I hope that they CAN prosecute still…statutes of limitations varies with these kinds of crimes and it’s really wrong! :mad:), and I really hope that she does tell the fiancee and the fiancee believes her and makes appropriate decisions based on the information. I don’t, however, think that the most beneficial thing for someone in this situation is to help them harbor their feelings of anger and not forgive. As has been stated…forgiveness is so much more for the victim than the victimizer. It does not mean that she will forget anything…I’m sure that it will stay with her forever…but the advice she receives should be for her to work this out w/ her priest and/or counselor to appropriately deal with the anger and other feelings. Not to hang on to anger or a vomiting emoticon in relation to sympathy…
 
Primox, if you know so much about pedophilia, then you’ll know what a “preferential” is. these child molesters select victims only from a certain group, usually only family members. Could be this guy is one of those, or it might be he started with cousins because they were closest.

UNLIKELY to reoffend? WHAT are you smoking?! He ALREADY reoffended!

No one who commits a crime has any right to confidentiality. The victim has every right to report said crime.

Why would you want some young woman to marry without this information? She has a right to know the risk she is taking. Can you imagine if, 10 years down the road, she finds her daughter has been raped by her husband, and the family knew the whole time that he was a child molester and didn’t tell her? That is cruelty off the charts. THIS mama bear would be prosecuting and suing every one of those people, if possible. They can pay for the therapy my daughter would need because they were so concerned with confidentiality!

Child molesters never have only one victim. They do not stop unless caught. Your position of defending this guy is indefensible and sickening.
 
Primox, if you know so much about pedophilia, then you’ll know what a “preferential” is. these child molesters select victims only from a certain group, usually only family members. Could be this guy is one of those, or it might be he started with cousins because they were closest.

UNLIKELY to reoffend? WHAT are you smoking?! He ALREADY reoffended!

No one who commits a crime has any right to confidentiality. The victim has every right to report said crime.

Why would you want some young woman to marry without this information? She has a right to know the risk she is taking. Can you imagine if, 10 years down the road, she finds her daughter has been raped by her husband, and the family knew the whole time that he was a child molester and didn’t tell her? That is cruelty off the charts. THIS mama bear would be prosecuting and suing every one of those people, if possible. They can pay for the therapy my daughter would need because they were so concerned with confidentiality!

Child molesters never have only one victim. They do not stop unless caught. Your position of defending this guy is indefensible and sickening.
I appreciate the assumptions, insults, and words put into my mouth, but you misunderstand. I get where you’re coming from though, no worries.
 
I am late in responding to this thread, but I’ve been following (and praying for you and your family) from the start… This is a pretty difficult topic for me, since I, too, have been traumatized by several males (some family members) in my life. I also know what it’s like to not have a parent believe you and be angry because you told someone (my mother). Though anger still crops up towards these people at times, I do not wish for them to face the final judgement for their actions towards me. Actually, yesterday when I went to confession, I was having problems for some anger cropping up again, and the priest told me that I would know that forgiveness had happened when that (the lack of desire of them going to hell) had happened. The anger takes longer to deal with.

I would suggest that eventually you seek therapy, individually, and maybe even some family (together with your sister, and ONLYif you wanted to with your father). These emotions and thoughts and traumas, etc… are all very difficult to deal with and work though alone. I tried to do so for many years with almost fatal results (thanks be to God that I am much better now… though I still have a long way to go). I’m sure you already know and do this, but it bears repeating… pray, pray, pray… especially for your cousin and your father. It can start simply with “God, be with Ben and my dad”. It wasn’t until I started praying for my own abusers was I able to start really healing. And once I converted to Catholicism, the healing power of confession has brought me to where I am today.

You know that love is an act of will… and that you can act loving without “feeling like it”… and act unloving, though you may feel loving. Forgivness is much like that, too. Don’t feel like you have to forgive today… but I just want to let you know how much that forgivness has freed me from such hatred and anger and has allowed me to move forward and grow, in spite of all that has happened to me. Also, like love, we can only love because we were first loved by God… in the same manner, we can only forgive because we were first forgiven.

Again, I will still keep you and your whole family in my prayers! May God bless you and keep you!

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God will help you to find the strength to reclaim your power and dignity as a human being.
Find your voice. Write your truth. The truth heals. The truth will set you free.

Welcome to adulthood, the land of serious responsibilities and serious difficult choices where you endlessly have to choose what is more important to you and what is less important to you in life, and those choices that you make will determine your entire life.
Your serious choices in this case are indeed seriously difficult.

On one hand, you must consider the fact that you have got the serious possibility of everyone’s fussing and whining over your rocking the boat of their comfort zone if you speak your truth as an adult rather than maintain the silence of a 4 year old.
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On the other hand, if you do not speak your truth as an adult but maintain the silence of a 4 year old, you must consider the fact that silence and lack of confrontation on the part of the community is exactly what guarantees that the sexual abuse of children will continue unchallenged and unabated in your community.

None of this constitutes “other people’s business” in the least. It is properly your own business, your own decision, and you must choose what will enable you to sleep nights and to live with yourself in the long term, what you know and feel in your heart to be the right choice for you.

If it were me, I would formally write and submit my statement of truth to any and all pastoral authority that may be responsible for granting church approval for your cousin’s wedding (priest, pastoral minister, church pastor, etc.). It is properly your business. It is also properly the business of the community and the Church. If it were me, I think these would be the words I would use:

I regard it as inappropriate for the Church to sanctify my cousin’s marriage unless my cousin demonstrates that he has come to a clear understanding that the sexual abuse of children will not be condoned, excused, silenced, nor tolerated by this Church nor any other community.

When my cousin was 15 and I was 4, I was deliberately and intentionally manipulated, abused, controlled, exploited, and silenced by my cousin. He thought absolutely nothing of violating my body, my virginity, my innocence, my mental and physical health, my spirit, and my dignity and integrity as a human being. Somehow in his own childhood upbringing HE HAD LEARNED THAT THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF A CHILD WAS SOMEHOW ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR WHICH WOULD BE TOLERATED, EXCUSED, AND SILENCED.

It has recently come to my attention that when he was 19 and my sister was 6, he also deliberately and intentionally repeated his sexually abusive behavior against my beloved younger sister, as he still apparently believed (as a legal adult!) that THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF A CHILD WAS SOMEHOW ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR AND WOULD BE TOLERATED, EXCUSED, AND SILENCED.

THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF A CHILD IS A SERIOUS CRIMINAL ACT PUNISHABLE BY CIVIL AND CRIMINAL LAW.
THE CONDONING, EXCUSING, SILENCING, AND TOLERATION OF THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF A CHILD IS LIKEWISE A SERIOUS CRIMINAL ACT PUNISHABLE BY CIVIL AND CRIMINAL LAW.

To this day, my cousin has never taken any responsibility nor has he made any apology whatsoever for his sexual violations of my sister and I, leaving me seriously doubting whether he possesses sufficient maturity to maintain a marriage and raise children responsibly in this Church community.

sincerely,
former Catholic
 
Now I can’t stop thinking about this whole story, I really hate Ben. I know we are supposed to forgive, but this is so hard :crying: I had almost come to terms with what had happened to me, I was always friendly with Ben even though I disliked him. But now I know that
  1. he lied when I told my parents what happened, and said that I invented it (as if a 4 year old would invent something like this)
  2. 4 years later, as an adult, he did the same thing to my little sister :mad:
  1. You must find a way to forgive. This is not just a recommendation from the Lord; it is His command. Read and meditate on Matthew 18:21-35 tonight:
usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew18.htm

Yes, you even need to forgive child molesters. Yes, this is true, even if the person who who was molested was you. Christ has forgiven your sins, and you have asked him for mercy. You must do the same to this relative of yours - no matter how hard it can be.

I too have been betrayed by flesh-and-blood relatives. I was not molested, but I was taken advantage of - and so were other members of my family. It took a long time to come to terms with this. But I finally found the strenght and courage to forgive.
  1. Your tragic tale reminds me of the movie “Atonement”. A woman allows a marriage to take place, even though she knows that the bridegroom is a molester. The woman could have objected to the marriage, but it would have brought shame and dishonor on herself. (In her case, she had made a false accusation about the molestation years ago, and an innocent man went to prison.) She lives with the undying emotional pain from this experience, to the end of her days. It is really a very sad movie. You really should consider renting it (although it does have mature content, FYI.)
I personnally would not allow this marriage to take place. I would do whatever I could to stop it. I would even go as far as telling the fiance about the molestation of you, and your sibling.

If your cousin does indeed marry, he may end up molesting his own children. And the whole cycle of torment and abuse would start again. Your cousin could end up in prison, his fiance could end up a divorcee, and his children could end up scarred for life - or worse. Molesters sometimes kill their victims.

Put a stop to this, now. You can forgive your cousin, while still taking steps, to prevent another tragedy from occuring.
 
My priest just called me.

He asked me if I was still comfortable with the idea of telling the fiancée what happened, and I told him that even though I was very nervous I really felt like I had to let her know. He said that he agreed because it was really important for her to know that before getting married to Ben.

He then asked if I would rather have him talk to Ben first about what is going on, or to his fiancée. I told him that I would rather let the fiancée know before because I am really scared of what Ben could do to prevent us from telling his fiancée. 😦

My priest told me that he was going to take care of everything, that tomorrow he would call her at work and ask to meet her in the evening, and that we would meet her one on one to let her know what is going on, and that he would call me right after to give me an update.

Thanks for all the prayers and messages. 😊
 
I’ll be praying for you. What a brave person you are, to be concerned with the welfare of others even though it is risky for you.

I hope when the confrontation is over you can find some peace. God Bless.
 
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