I can't stand other Catholics

[joshvanrad]

They probably don’t like your holier-than-thou judgemental attitude either.

I mean, really? You’re so superior to all the other Catholics that you’re ready to write them all off and go at it alone? Something tells me that you don’t see yourself very clearly.

Totally agree!

This subject is slightly upsetting to me, actually.

Whoever said “pride” is probably right. Your piousness, righteousness, and attitude sound very disordered. I think you need to evaluate if that is becoming a sin or if you are being prideful.

Jesus died for their sins just as much as he did for yours,
Joshua

 

[catharina]

A bit harsh, but let me say this as I had a Catholic Father and a Lutheran Mother who converted.

She would say the Catholics are the most righteous and yet the least likely to forgive.

Ahhhhh - you’re quoting your mother???

 

[charliedrake]

A bit harsh, but let me say this as I had a Catholic Father and a Lutheran Mother who converted.

She would say the Catholics are the most righteous and yet the least likely to forgive.

As they say Mama knows best,

 

[catharina]

As they say Mama knows best,

ok, but who are THEY???

 

[Contra_Mundum_1]

Whoever said “pride” is probably right. Your piousness, righteousness, and attitude sound very disordered. I think you need to evaluate if that is becoming a sin or if you are being prideful.

This is quite harsh. Converts are often extremely enthusiastic about their new faith and the reality of how things are shocks them. When you are on fire for the faith then lukewarmness can be perceived as a personal insult of a sort. Cafeteria Catholicism is nothing to be proud of and the OP sees it for what it is. Of course, we are all work in progress and it is important to see that when it comes to ourselves as well as to others. Understanding this will lead to more respect and charity. The OP has to find his place in the church and find people who have a strong faith and good morals. From his other posts it sounds like he is basically on his own. It is difficult to live the faith without a community. I am confident this will happen with time and that things will become easier to deal with.

 

[nickybr38]

I find it rather amusing that while the OP is judging his fellow Catholics based on their actions you are in turn judging him based on his words. HILARIOUS.

Don’t preach about not judging when you yourself are making judgments (and rather harsh ones at that), it just makes you look hypocritical.

OP, seriously, if you ignore everything else said on this thread don’t ignore the suggestion to love your brothers and sisters in Christ. No matter how lapse they have become, they are still baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They are children of God. God has commanded you to love them, despite their seemingly irreverant (sp?) attitudes and actions.

 

[Samson01]

ok, but who are THEY???

You know, the man.

 

[Luvtosew]

This is quite harsh. Converts are often extremely enthusiastic about their new faith and the reality of how things are shocks them. When you are on fire for the faith then lukewarmness can be perceived as a personal insult of a sort. Cafeteria Catholicism is nothing to be proud of and the OP sees it for what it is. Of course, we are all work in progress and it is important to see that when it comes to ourselves as well as to others. Understanding this will lead to more respect and charity. The OP has to find his place in the church and find people who have a strong faith and good morals. From his other posts it sounds like he is basically on his own. It is difficult to live the faith without a community. I am confident this will happen with time and that things will become easier to deal with.

I agree, he is new and I do see other new people on here saying about the same kinda stuff, it has made me wonder what they teach in RICA classes. And to find other young people who feel the same as him about everything is probably hard so yes I agree he needs a break, and I’m sure he will do ok.

 

[nickybr38]

This is quite harsh. Converts are often extremely enthusiastic about their new faith and the reality of how things are shocks them. When you are on fire for the faith then lukewarmness can be perceived as a personal insult of a sort. Cafeteria Catholicism is nothing to be proud of and the OP sees it for what it is. Of course, we are all work in progress and it is important to see that when it comes to ourselves as well as to others. Understanding this will lead to more respect and charity. The OP has to find his place in the church and find people who have a strong faith and good morals. From his other posts it sounds like he is basically on his own. It is difficult to live the faith without a community. I am confident this will happen with time and that things will become easier to deal with.

Something else to keep in mind is that some converts are coming from Protestantism - the most lax and cafeteria type situation possible. Some of us carry baggage from our time in Protestant land and we find cafeteria Catholicism as another form of Protestantism and thus detestable.

I don’t know about my fellow converts but I know I’m a work in progress and I’m trying very hard to overcome my irritation with people who seem to take for granted the beautiful deposit of faith that the Lord has provided for us in the Church.

 

[VGARZA1972]

So many great Catholics here!!! Be humble my friend, you have come so far to come home to the true Church of Christ. We all struggle with this so much because, I feel we want everyone we know to understand how we feel and to be honest there’s just no way that I know of doing that other than being and example to others! There’s never a moment when I feel like I know it all because Catholicism is so rich and full and expands so much of our mind that I feel like I will never completly fill my mind with it all, but that in itself is beautiful about our faith!!

 

[Luvtosew]

Something else to keep in mind is that some converts are coming from Protestantism - the most lax and cafeteria type situation possible. Some of us carry baggage from our time in Protestant land and we find cafeteria Catholicism as another form of Protestantism and thus detestable.

I am really wondering what they teach in RICA now.

you must be stating that you were a lax Protestant, not that all Protestants are lax.

 

[nickybr38]

Something else to keep in mind is that some converts are coming from Protestantism - the most lax and cafeteria type situation possible. Some of us carry baggage from our time in Protestant land and we find cafeteria Catholicism as another form of Protestantism and thus detestable.

I am really wondering what they teach in RICA now.

you must be stating that you were a lax Protestant, not that all Protestants are lax.

My RCIA taught nothing. We just read bible verses and talked about how they made us feel.

And why would RCIA teach us anything about Protestantism? Really? The Protestant churches have nothing to do with the Catholic Church. So your question is moot anyway.

I meant that the Protestant THEOLOGY is lax. Not that Protestants are but that their theology is.

 

[Contra_Mundum_1]

you must be stating that you were a lax Protestant, not that all Protestants are lax.

I think the poster refered to the principle behind protestantism, not the people. And the principle being variety of beliefs that have no objective theology to back them up.

 

[Luvtosew]

My RCIA taught nothing. We just read bible verses and talked about how they made us feel.

And why would RCIA teach us anything about Protestantism? Really? The Protestant churches have nothing to do with the Catholic Church. So your question is moot anyway.

I meant that the Protestant THEOLOGY is lax. Not that Protestants are but that their theology is.

I know RCIA is Catholic classes and thats all you did is read Bible verses. So now you frown on Protestants. Well your a Catholic now so that makes you better than a Protestant.

 

[nickybr38]

I know RCIA is Catholic classes and thats all you did is read Bible verses. So now you frown on Protestants. Well your a Catholic now so that makes you better than a Protestant.

Not better by any means. It means I have access to the fullness of faith and I have access to theology and theologians that are far more grounded then our Protestant brothers and sisters.

Please don’t confuse attacking an idea for attacking people.

 

[nickybr38]

I know RCIA is Catholic classes and thats all you did is read Bible verses. So now you frown on Protestants. Well your a Catholic now so that makes you better than a Protestant.

PS: RCIA isn’t ‘Catholic classes’. It’s a formation process meant to introduce converts to Christianity and the Catholic faith. My particular RCIA group was a bit… odd and poorly executed.

 

[nickybr38]

I think the poster refered to the principle behind protestantism, not the people. And the principle being variety of beliefs that have no objective theology to back them up.

Exactly. Thank you for wording that much more eloquently then I did.

 

[Luvtosew]

My apology I read it wrong as I know a lot of Protestants and they are very good people.

My particular RCIA group was a bit… odd and poorly executed.
I"m sorry to hear that.

I hope you find everything you need in the Catholic Church and try to have mercy on some of us older cradle Catholics.

 

[nickybr38]

My apology I read it wrong as I know a lot of Protestants and they are very good people.

My particular RCIA group was a bit… odd and poorly executed.
I"m sorry to hear that.

I hope you find everything you need in the Catholic Church and try to have mercy on some of us older cradle Catholics.

No problem. I’m not a great writer so sometimes I word things oddly and it can cause confusion. ): I’m not a great reader either so you can imagine the messes I get into online! yikes!

All of my Christian friends are Protestants (I haven’t made any Catholic friends yet). They ARE good people. Their theology makes my head hurt sometimes but at the very least they love God very much. That’s what we should focus on when dealing with cafeteria Catholics or Protestants, or anyone who doesn’t seem to accept the fullness of truth… they love God and so do we. That’s our common ground.

 

[fred_conty]

Before you ask the obvious question, I’m here to get answers for my questions about the faith.

Nearly all Catholics I meet are of the cafeteria variety. I can’t stand them. I was a liberal atheist once, and the less reverent forms of Catholicism are too much like what I left.

I have three choices. I can turn away from Catholics altogether. I can join a schismatic section that is more obedient to Church teaching. Or I can learn to like these people who turn away from God to keep up their cherished sins while calling themselves Catholic. I would like to meet another Catholic who loves God like I do, but that’s obviously not part of God’s will for me. I’m leaning toward the first choice and want to avoid the second. But I’m willing to do the third if I can. I’m just not sure I can.

Is it all right not to be part of the Catholic community if I still love God and my neighbor? (I’m working on loving my neighbor, but it’s really hard)

Any help would be appreciated.

I know exactly what you mean. It’s like the man who went to the synagogue to the
front and said, “Lord I’m glad I’m not like the rest of these sinners.”