I have a question

[Maureen_Fiore]

mikew262:

Incorrect. See link.

pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week443/cover.html

Actually, I take my comment back because this article or link refers to Episcopal ministers coming into the Catholic faith. Already married ministers that changed their religion to the ONE TRUE FAITH.

I am still correct though because I don’t believe the Pope has allowed already ordained priest to get married.

 

[prodigal-sun]

Maureen Fiore:

No I’m correct this article is rubbish!

No you are incorrect!

We have a married priest in our diocese. He was a Lutheran minister who found out the whole truth and came over to the church! He became a priest about 4 years ago I believe.

here is a link to another intereting story!

delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060331/NEWS/603310353/1006

Please keep in mind that the church is not doing away with it’s celibacy requirment for it’s priests. These are special cases that go before the vatican for approval.

Peace!

 

[prodigal-sun]

Maureen Fiore:

Actually, I take my comment back because this article or link refers to Episcopal ministers coming into the Catholic faith. Already married ministers that changed their religion to the ONE TRUE FAITH.

I am still correct though because I don’t believe the Pope has allowed already ordained priest to get married.

Opps! sorry I replied before seeing your last post!

 

[Maureen_Fiore]

prodigal-sun:

No you are incorrect!

No I am right. Please read my last post!

 

[Rebecca_New]

Maureen Fiore:

I think he is mixing them up. I have never heard of such a thing. I know that if a man becomes a widower and then has a calling to the priesthood then yes he can become ordained as a priest. But, there is no such thing as a married priest in the Roman Catholic Church.

I read an article where a married man got special permission from Pope John Paul II and did become a priest-I think he lived with his wife. ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/MARPRIE.HTM

Also, someone who was telling me that we did have women priests was referring to the Old Testament. Since I did not know, I could not rebute the fact.

 

[prodigal-sun]

Maureen Fiore:

prodigal-sun:

No you are incorrect!

No I am right. Please read my last post!

You are correct in stating that an ordained priest will not be allowed to marry. Nor, would I think a regular married man be able to become a priest!

But you are wrong in stating there are no married priest.

AS of course you have clarified.

Women will never become priests! IMO

Peace!

 

[Drober49]

Hi Cissell,
For a fuller perspective, may I direct you to the Catechism, Page 895, in the Glossary. There are two entries – Priesthood of Christ and Priesthood. There you will see the brief concept with citations to the paragraphs in the Catechism.

In brief, the Church teaches that are three ‘types’ of priests ~

1. The Priesthood of Our Lord
2. The ministerial priesthood
3. The priesthood of believers

Paragraph 1119 may be helpful ~

Forming “as it were, one mystical person” with Christ the head, the Church acts in the sacraments as “an organically structured priestly community.” Through Baptism and Confirmation the priestly people is enabled to celebrate the liturgy, while those of the faithful “who have received Holy Orders, are appointed to nourish the Church with the word and grace of God in the name of Christ.”

I suspect this answer is not quite what you were asking, but I didn’t see other posters trying to ‘round out’ the perspective, so to speak.

Drober

cissellp:

There was an engineer were I work that made a remark under his breath about how in the history of the Catholic church priest were married and some where even women is that true?

 

[BryPGuy89]

So it is special cases of married priests. So to say that priests aren’t allowed to marry is a true statement.

 

[Maureen_Fiore]

Rebecca New:

I read an article where a married man got special permission from Pope John Paul II and did become a priest-I think he lived with his wife. ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/MARPRIE.HTM

Also, someone who was telling me that we did have women priests was referring to the Old Testament. Since I did not know, I could not rebute the fact.

The only way we have married priest in the Catholic Church is because they came from a different religion and converted to Catholicism. Once a man is ordained into the priesthood they cannot get married if they were not married before.

Women priest will never happen.

 

[Maureen_Fiore]

prodigal-sun:

Maureen Fiore:

prodigal-sun:

You are correct in stating that an ordained priest will not be allowed to marry. Nor, would I think a regular married man be able to become a priest

Yes, once a man is ordained into the priesthood he cannot get married.

But you are wrong in stating there are no married priest.

No, I am right! The only way they can be married is if they came from a different religion who has married ministers. Please read my post again, I think you are only partially understanding my comments.

Women will never become priests! IMO

This will never happen regardless of your personal opinion. Jesus gave this Holy Orders to men not women.

 

[Maureen_Fiore]

BryPGuy89:

So it is special cases of married priests. So to say that priests aren’t allowed to marry is a true statement.

Yes, for now a true statement. But, it can change because it is not dogma.

 

[prodigal-sun]

Thank goodness my opinion is on track then!

 

[Maureen_Fiore]

prodigal-sun:

Thank goodness my opinion is on track then!

Yes, thank goodness

 

[a_pilgrim]

Last month (Feb. 12, to be specific), Bishop John Kudrick of the Eparchy of Parma (Ohio) of the Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church in America ordained Fr. Joseph Marquis to the priesthood.

Fr. Joseph is, and has been for a number of years, a happily married man. He is now a Catholic priest, just as much a Catholic priest as any of the thousands of Catholic priests who serve in Roman Catholic parishes across the country (and the world!).

The Byzantine Catholic Church is in full communion with Rome (i.e., fully Catholic), meaning that any Catholic individual, Roman Catholic or otherwise, is absolutely free to partake of the Sacraments at the hands of Fr. Joseph. Attending a Mass (or, more properly, a Divine Liturgy, as it is referred to in the Catholic East) celebrated by Fr. Joseph would, in fact, satisfy your Sunday obligation as a Catholic. In short, Fr. Joseph is, in fact, a married Catholic priest.

Priestly celebacy is a discipline that is subscribed to by the Latin Church… it is not dogma throughout the entire Catholic Church.

 

[franco_antonio]

not in dogma!? im not sure, for me only one is certain that celibacy on the priest can be explained by the new and old testament… that for sure!!!

 

[Maureen_Fiore]

a pilgrim:

Last month (Feb. 12, to be specific), Bishop John Kudrick of the Eparchy of Parma (Ohio) of the Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church in America ordained Fr. Joseph Marquis to the priesthood.

Fr. Joseph is, and has been for a number of years, a happily married man. He is now a Catholic priest, just as much a Catholic priest as any of the thousands of Catholic priests who serve in Roman Catholic parishes across the country (and the world!).

The Byzantine Catholic Church is in full communion with Rome (i.e., fully Catholic), meaning that any Catholic individual, Roman Catholic or otherwise, is absolutely free to partake of the Sacraments at the hands of Fr. Joseph. Attending a Mass (or, more properly, a Divine Liturgy, as it is referred to in the Catholic East) celebrated by Fr. Joseph would, in fact, satisfy your Sunday obligation as a Catholic. In short, Fr. Joseph is, in fact, a married Catholic priest.

Priestly celebacy is a discipline that is subscribed to by the Latin Church… it is not dogma throughout the entire Catholic Church.

Nobody said it was dogma.

 

[mikew262]

Maureen Fiore:

I am still correct though because I don’t believe the Pope has allowed already ordained priest to get married.

I believe you are correct in this regard.

 

[mikew262]

Maureen Fiore:

Yes, for now a true statement. But, it can change because it is not dogma.

And should change in my opinion.

 

[a_pilgrim]

Maureen Fiore:

Nobody said it was dogma.

True, Maureen… but you did say this in post #29 and again in post #30…

The only way we have married priest in the Catholic Church is because they came from a different religion and converted to Catholicism.

…emphasis above on the word “only” mine…

Fr. Joseph did not convert to Catholicism from another religion… he was/is a Catholic for his entire life. Obviously your example does not illustrate the only way a married man can become a Catholic priest, as you implied.

…just wanted to clear that up before someone took your statement as fact…

 

[Mickey]

mikew262:

And should change in my opinion.

Thank goodness you are not part of the decision making process. Already ordained priests will never be permitted to marry and you will not see this change.