I need help! Wife issues

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I have been through this myself. It is emotion infidelity and it is very hurtful and wrong. My husband would tell me they were just friends but when your spouse text and phone that friend more than their own wife, there is a problem. My husband and his “friend” would do whatever and say whatever to protect their relationship. They would tell me that something was wrong with me and I was being jealous and controlling. This is the lie they tell themselves to justify the relationship. Another line they used was “Oh we have so much in common and we care for each other we are just friends” In there minds they are not doing anything wrong but they are.

I went through alot of turmoil, sleepless nights, anger. It took prayer and my husband and I putting God first to turn things around. We ended up leaving the town we were in and We were able to trust again. Our faith and marriage are stronger now but it took alot work to get back. We are involved now in a marriage ministry called Covenant of Love. The founders have a book that you should read** Marriage 911: How God saved our Marriage by Julie and Gregg Alexander. **We pray together everyday which we never did before and it has helped us. I will be keeping you in our prayers.
 
Honestly I don’t think they had sex. Call me naive but I just don’t think it happened. I’m not protecting my assets because I don’t feel I need to right now. I’m still very optomistic. Her therapist isn’t seeing me right now because they are working on her issues first before possibly bring me in. I’m not worried about that either. The more I think about it, the more I feel that this will all be resolved.** I’m a good man. Who wouldn’t want to stay with me?**
Hey hurthusband I’ve been in your shoes. My marriage of 30 years ended 7 years ago when my wife left me for a man 20 years her senior - I am 59, you do the math. To say that my spouse didn’t/doesn’t have issues would be foolish of anyone. Therapy? Mentioned it to her 3 times during the marriage but she always insisted that there was nothing wrong with our marriage. Currently, we are legally separated - my idea.

Your last 2 lines (highlighted above) made me smile because I am like you in a way - my spouse has had many medical issues and I always stood right by her side. 48 total trips to hospitals during our union - with the 40 of them in the last 3 years of it alone. When I mentioned that to her after she told me she was leaving all she could say demurely was “thank you”. It hurt for a very long time but it is what it is. Whatever you do DO NOT give up your beliefs, principles or your faith in God - that is imperative! And yes, you should look out for your interests - I was like you and gave more than I should, in the end it will hurt me financially. If you must, you can legally separate and try and work things out. Oh, and just because you still have ‘relations’ and say ‘I love you’ that doesn’t mean a thing, so don’t get lulled into a false sense of security either.

Recently my spouses ‘beau’ passed away. She spends most of her time at home alone as she isn’t close to her family or our children. I try to keep her in the loop and invite her over for family holiday gatherings but that is all she’s interested in - she still mourns her lost love. Reconciliation is out for us!

Remember, people change, love changes and these are things that you/me have no control over. None the less, keep her in your prayers, learn to forgive and let go if/when you must. You will survive as sure as God is in Heaven. I don’t enjoy being single, but if that is God’s Will then so be it - I’m still kicking. 👍

Good luck and God bless!

Much peace,

Mike! 🙂
 
I have been through this myself. It is emotion infidelity and it is very hurtful and wrong. My husband would tell me they were just friends but when your spouse text and phone that friend more than their own wife, there is a problem. **My husband and his “friend” would do whatever and say whatever to protect their relationship. They would tell me that something was wrong with me and I was being jealous and controlling. **This is the lie they tell themselves to justify the relationship. Another line they used was “Oh we have so much in common and we care for each other we are just friends” In there minds they are not doing anything wrong but they are.
All this is exactly what my wife and her “friend” did to me (the husband)! Our outcome was different from yours however - their relationship became sexual,and then she left me for him. The effect on the children was devastating, both at the time and in the long term, which is now 18 years.

After she had left me I discovered James Dobson’s book Love Must be Tough: New Hope for Marriages in Crisis which deals with the problem of the faithful spouse who wants to save the marriage in the face of infidelity. The unique thing about this book is that he recognises that this is not just a “marital problem” which both spouses can work on, but rather a crisis where the partners have radically different intentions. The “tough” in the title is not about getting tough with the partner, which is usually counter productive, but is about the once-in-a-lifetime inner strength needed by the faithful spouse when their world is falling apart. This inner strength may be the one chance they have of saving the marriage.

I read Love Must be Tough when it was all over, and wished I had read it before. I always recommend it, very highly, to husbands and wives in the OP’s predicament.

hurthusband, you have my prayers.
 
I tell her everyday how much I love her. We’ve gone on walks, gone to the mountains, gone out for drinks and to the movies, spent time with our grandson. we’re still in the same bed, still having marital relations, but she says she’s trying to figure out what she needs to be happy. Her therapist won’t see me because he knows I’m not going anywhere, so I’ll continue to go and sit in the waiting room and offer my support, but I need support too.
Then go get your support. Go get your own therapist, go to the Adoration Chapel, do your writing and PROTECT YOURSELF.
 
The more I think about it, the more I feel that this will all be resolved. I’m a good man. Who wouldn’t want to stay with me?
I am terribly sorry for your situation. And no one has actually and come out and said what I am about to say in love : THERE IS A STRONG POSSIBILITY YOUR WIFE WILL NOT WANT TO BE FAITHFULL TO YOU

Please, don’t be hurt by that, I am just pointing out something you need to consider. Telling her you love her just makes you appear whimpy in her eyes. She knows she can use you and it would do HER a world of good if you were to set boundaries and show her she can not use people especially not a husband.

I believe you are strong for wanting to work it out, I just think you are going about i t the wrong way

Angie
 
Thanks for all of the responses, but most of you are just dead wrong on this one. I’ve known my wife since the 7th grade. We were neighbors growing up. I know the family. She works in a field dominated by men and got caught up in something. Was it wrong??
YES!!! Should I just toss her aside? NO!! She and I have issues that need to be worked out. Remember " In sicknes and health, in good times and bad, til death do us part"? I’m not someone who’s going to run at the first sign of trouble. That’s just not me. We’re going to Ash Wednesday together and we’re going to Retrovaille together. I’ll let you all know how it works out.
 
Thanks for all of the responses, but most of you are just dead wrong on this one. I’ve known my wife since the 7th grade. We were neighbors growing up. I know the family. She works in a field dominated by men and got caught up in something. Was it wrong??
YES!!! Should I just toss her aside? NO!! She and I have issues that need to be worked out. Remember " In sicknes and health, in good times and bad, til death do us part"? I’m not someone who’s going to run at the first sign of trouble. That’s just not me. We’re going to Ash Wednesday together and we’re going to Retrovaille together. I’ll let you all know how it works out.
Good for you! Some people are all for their vows as long as everything is going well. When we marry, we did not promise to love them until they are unfaithful and then we are free to toss them aside. What your wife did is a symptom that something was /is wrong, whether is is with her alone or with your marriage. She has agreed to address it and wants to work things out. I am glad you are going to at least try. I think Lent coming right now will go a long way toward bringing you both closer to each other, and to God.
May God bless and guide you and your wife.
 
Good for you! Some people are all for their vows as long as everything is going well. When we marry, we did not promise to love them until they are unfaithful and then we are free to toss them aside. What your wife did is a symptom that something was /is wrong, whether is is with her alone or with your marriage. She has agreed to address it and wants to work things out. I am glad you are going to at least try. I think Lent coming right now will go a long way toward bringing you both closer to each other, and to God.
May God bless and guide you and your wife.
We Irish have to stick together!!!
 
I am so so so sorry.

I have no advice, except that i pray for you and your family. I would go see a priest, they are so wonderful and Jesus speak through his priests.

Pray

Blessings and love!
 
I hope this works out. It is very hopeful that she wants to go to Retrouvaille.

That she is in counseling alone is not encouraging, though. Nor is it encouraging that she calls 5000 texts with a man “just friends”. She is lying to you, or to herself, or maybe both on that one. She is having an emotional affair, and that not only slides very easily and suddenly into a full-blown affair, but its the worse kind of affair to have; this leads to the one having it to want to leave her marraige to fulfill her desires.

I remember contemplating once how prisons are full of men who committed horrible crimes. More likely to murder, for example. But women are just as much sinners - whats our common crime? I knew immediately, Women do really stupid things for men. She will neglect (even kill) her kids, for example, for a man. Or leave a good husband for one. That’s our common crime.

Anyway, its not encouraging that she hasn’t repented yet. She may still! I hope she does. But for now she hasn’t, and that can’t happen until she fully admits the truth that the “friend” was a serious betrayal to her vows and to you. She can’t turn over a new leaf and start anew with you until she repents.

Also it is not hopeful that you are confident that you are so good she wouldn’t leave you. It makes me afraid for you.
 
I am sure you are very good and very true. I don’t doubt it a bit! But I have seen too many good, helpful, loving, faithful spouses left by their spouse for an affair. Its a pattern that is common! Particularly women who have “everything” – a nice faithful, true, loving spouse and financial security (whatever that means to them). Now that they have everything, they know something is still missing. They seem to want something more, that elusive romance, that love-of-their-life that will bring the ultimate romantic fulfillment. This will be everything that life is that their heart tells them they need. But it is really God their hearts yearn for. However these women, even if they know God, are not looking to God for fulfillment. They think its somewhere else, its something worldly and tangible they need. And this is what our society so encourages! Unless she is militantly counter-cultural and watches what she reads and what movies and shows she watches, she is being fed a constant blaring message that an affair, or the perfect romantic match, will fulfill all her inner longings.

What I have observed is that often the one who leaves a good marraige for an affair, I ahve seen, tends to be sort of “controlling” in some respect, in the marital relationship. And the left-spouse is often an accommodating person in the marriage. She might work fulltime or stay home, but even so she takes charge in some real way (not saying that’s wrong). I noticed your wife pays all the bills, and you had no idea what was in the bills. I am just noting that paying all the bills is having control over a big component of the marriage.

It seems to happen very often when your children are no longer really needing Mom all the time. My brother’s wife left when she engaged in an emotional affair, encouraged by her counselor to try a “trial separation”; she got her own apartment quite some miles across town from her husband and kids. Their two kids were in college, and the youngest was finishing high school but was very independent and responsible with many friends and involved in extra-curricular . During the separation, my brother was reading a book on marraige recommended by his wife (neither of the two were at all religious) and traveling to the next city for "marriage counseling"where a counselor followed the book’s principles. Never saw my brother read a relationship book, but he had this desperate shell-shocked look in his eyes and he was willing to do ANYTHING to save this marraige.

I got a different vibe from her altogether. I said to my brother, “What if she is going to counseling to have the counselor help her explain to you why she has to leave, instead of to save the marraige?”. He got angry with me. This was NOT a possibility he was willing to consider! Yes, Denial can be much greater and stronger than any river in Africa. And that was her goal in counseling that he was going to great trouble to get to and putting so much vigorous heart and hope in, for an entirely different reason.

These stories end in divorce at least half of the time. Mine ended in divorce. My husbands affair was with a married woman who had everything, financial security, a nice home she loved (a big old Victorian her husband had slaved over the years for her, making it just right for his family - he was a very dedicated husband and father, the kind no one would ever want to leave) and her kids were approaching college age. (these two marrieds hooked up at a high school reunion). My husband was a different story, it was not a convenient time in our marriage, but he has a serious disorder called Narcissism, and this type, among other things does a great job morphing into any role they feel called into. In this case, the role she wanted from him was for him to be her Romantic Dream Lover, a role that got me so many years ago (and I was looking for that. Its the foolish dream of many women!). Of course the dream ended the day after we married. I know that’s not your story though. Though you remind me of his lover’s husband.

I remember meeting a homeschool Mom, who lived in a nice house with several kids* (I envied this; I was fortunate to get one out of my husband; I would have loved a houseful!) *and she fully supported by her uncomplaining husband *(wow! they have these?!) *and her husband let her run the house and do everything just how she wanted. She chose all the curriculum and he supported her every idea. It was such a contrast to me, always being questioned and having to justify my existence and my every action and choice day to day. How could she not be happy? Well, she had no complaint about her husband, but, she was seeing a therapist, and was falling for him. This was shocking, but she went on and on about her feelings, as if this was all that mattered. The good news is I saw her some months later and she seemed to be leaving la-la-land; her therapist realized the non-professionalism of the relationship and had backed off, and she was re-appreciating the fine man her husband was. So sometimes these things do spend themselves. I certainly hope it does in your case.

But you said you wanted the full truth. I think you should stick with that, and ask the Lord for strength to know it when you see it. Ask Him to show you what is true in this situation. And be wise! How protected are your assets?? Oh. You probably don’t know. Your wife does all the bills. You really should seek wise counsel. You cannot go wrong with Gregory Popcak’s counseling. Find it online; I think the first call for advice is free.
 
1,000 text messages per month plus thousands of minutes is not “friends”. A more pressing concern at the moment is the fact that she is lying to you about how serious she was with him. I would expect somebody who genuinely wanted to make amends, put the issue behind her, and repair the marriage to tell the truth here.
 
I read Love Must be Tough when it was all over, and wished I had read it before. I always recommend it, very highly, to husbands and wives in the OP’s predicament.
I had the same thought! Hurthusband, you NEED this book. You can get it on half.com for 50 cents probably, plus media mail shipping. Its for the spouse in an otherwise good relationship whose spouse is straying. But you need to hide the book, its just for the spouse being ignored. He explains why in the book.
ahem This is why curbs were made.:cool:
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I am sure you are very good and very true. I don’t doubt it a bit! But I have seen too many good, helpful, loving, faithful spouses left by their spouse for an affair. Its a pattern that is common! Particularly women who have “everything” – a nice faithful, true, loving spouse and financial security (whatever that means to them).

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Great post, Charlotte!

My ex-wife was the controlling one in our marriage, and I was always loyal and loving, and provided well for her and the children. I was no “doormat”, but she was just a more ruthless fighter when we had conflicts. Her great “friendship” that ended our marriage was with someone completely different from me and from the people she and I had grown up with. He had no religious leanings, swore a lot, drank a lot with mates and went to strip shows, etc. This, to my wife, was all a wonderful new world which she decided was the real “fulfilment” she was lacking!

I recently read a book by a doctor who served on a military base in World War II. While there he saw many men receive the news that their wife, living hundreds of miles away, had left them. He commented “It was always the loyal and devoted husbands that this happened to”
 
I had the same thought! Hurthusband, you NEED this book. You can get it on half.com for 50 cents probably, plus media mail shipping. Its for the spouse in an otherwise good relationship whose spouse is straying. But you need to hide the book, its just for the spouse being ignored. He explains why in the book.

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as in …uh…er…*drop…(yeah that works…maybe…) * her off at the curb of a street and not look back.
 
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