I think ALL Christians Can Unite On This!

[PJM]

=Dndspoon;8353309]I am a Christian who is searching around currently, but I pray for the day when we all will fulfill the prayer of our Lord, that we all might be as one. So I decided to make a list of the things that, I believe, might unite us.

#1. God is made up of The Father, Son, And The Holy Spirit, but there is one God. In Other words, The Holy Trinity.

#2. Jesus, The Son Of God, came down to earth, was Born of the Virgin Mary, Died For Our sins, was buried, and on the third day rose from the dead, defeating death and Satan. He ascended into Heaven and now sits at the right hand of God The Father almighty, From where He shall return for His Church someday.

#3. There is a Heaven and a Hell ( and a Purgatory for some denominations) but to sum it all up, there is judgment after death.

#4. Morals A.K.A sin do not change. Things like abortion, homosexuality, lying, cheating, stealing, etc… Do not change just because society thinks it should change.

5#. The Bible is very important to Christianity (Whether you believe in sola scriptura or not).

6#. We are to love our neighbor, help our fellowman, spread the gospel, and participate in our government and society. I believe its our duty as Christians.

7#. The ONLY WAY to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. Not Buddha, Mohammad, etc.

So these things I believe, can not only unite us, but keep the liberal Christians on the run, you know the ones who pretty much say “if it offence thee, rip it out” when looking at the Bible. The ones who go around saying there is no hell, homosexuality and abortion are just fine, there’s no such thing as sin, pretty much everything that is contrary to scripture. They annoy me. Anyways, I hope we can unite one day, and I don’t mean create a new Church or anything like that, I mean keep your traditions and your beliefs, but unite on what unites us all, because to tell you the truth, I see dark days coming on the horizon. The world is becoming more secular and hatful towered us, and Christians are being muzzled and persecuted, like those Catholic adoption agencies in MASS. That had to Close because they would not allow same-sex couples to adopt, and with this government, I feel more is to come.

I think of us like soldiers, our uniforms are all different colors (different denominations) But all we do is fight with one another, without realizing that on all our uniforms is a cross, That’s what unites us, And as we fight, we don’t see the devil and his army march right past us, even slaying some of us in the process. So If you have more ideas on things that can unify us, please do post, also post your opinions and thoughts. Thanks so much, and may the whole World be United to Christ, and May HE Bless you all!

P.S. Sorry For any mistakes or anything like that. I was typing fast and am 17 so my mind is all over the place, LOL!

Well done; and even though not metioned this is and has always been the goal of Jesus.

No where in the entire bible, not even once did Yahweh or Jesus EVER teach more than One God [Triune], ONLY One set of Faith beliefs [given by Jesus to HIS CC [Mt. 16:19], and Only One Church. The NT alone has over 100 passages that support these claims.

Here are just three of them:

**Eph. 4: 1-7 **“I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all lowliness and meekness, with patience, forbearing one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body WHICH MEANS ONE CHURCH] and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, [Meaning only One set of beliefs[/COLOR]] one baptism, one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all. But grace was given to each of us according to the measure of Christ’s gift."

**Eph. 2:19-20 **“So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of ***the household of God, [singular]COLOR=“navy”] built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord; [singular] ***in whom you also are built into it for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”

John.10: 16 “And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd”

WELL DONE, THANK YOU!

God Bless you,
Pat

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

Our Catholic faith is summed up in our Credo profession of faith.

+NICENE CREED
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

I don’t find much that differs from the OP. Although a professed faith doctrine coincides with authority and Christian moral practices.

**The Cross is the Sacrificed lived in Him, with Him and through Jesus in the Eucharist.

The Cross is not just a symbol for Catholics it is a life being lived out in Christ in us… **

Thus we have the Apostles and their apostolic successors in the Catholic Martyrs and Saints who give witness to this Catholic faith both living in the Church Militant on earth with the Church Triumphant in heaven, these all hold to our Christian profession of faith.

Peace be with you

 

[CopticChristian]

Our Catholic faith is summed up in our Credo profession of faith.

+NICENE CREED
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

I don’t find much that differs from the OP. Although a professed faith doctrine coincides with authority and Christian moral practices.

**The Cross is the Sacrificed lived in Him, with Him and through Jesus in the Eucharist.

The Cross is not just a symbol for Catholics it is a life being lived out in Christ in us… **

Thus we have the Apostles and their apostolic successors in the Catholic Martyrs and Saints who give witness to this Catholic faith both living in the Church Militant on earth with the Church Triumphant in heaven, these all hold to our Christian profession of faith.

Peace be with you

One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism, One worship, One Church that believes that unity is in the Eucharist. Yeah. I suppose you are correct.

 

[absolute]

Christians are united through the Holy Spirit

One receives the Holy Spirit by believing what they heard

Heard what? About the rosary, Marys medallion? Purgatory? Calvinism or any of the other thing that the Catholic church or Protestant churches uses to separate itself from others?

Heard that Christ was the Son of God, died for us, and rose from the dead. Many were converted after a single sentence in Acts. The simplicity of Christ is meant to penetrate the heart so one can receive the Holy Spirit–thats what identifies Christians to GOD…nothing else.

Once all the churches drop their power trips and consider how people were converted by the apostles, Christians will be united to themselves. I say themselves… because real Christians are already united through the Holy Spirit to GOD.

Look, God knew it would be like this. If he wanted it to be different he would back up what individual preachers said through miracles as he did with Paul, Peter and the rest. But He doesnt does he?

If the catholic Church was suppose to be the “be all and end of all” God could make that quite clear. But what has happened instead? The C Church has had a history of shame and so has the Protestant church to some extent.

So what do we do? We let go of traditions and commandments of men and go back to pure Christianity.

Oh, but we do love our traditions dont we? Some just love religion and ritual. It was that same love that caused God to impose the Law of Moses. A law that Paul said was akin to slavery. And what did the Pharisees do…they heaped on more… just as the Catholic Church has done. The Calvinists have their almighty code…and so on and so on until Jesus Christ is buried beneath the rubble of human pride.

I believe it is the lust for power and control that all these divisions exist and laymen reap the negatives. But all of this does serve to make a separation that is evident to God. There are those who will continue to hold on to their divisions and there are those who have a stronger faith in Jesus Christ. A faith that crushes this quest to return to the days of the pharisees.

 

[Swiss_Guy]

Well yes, technically the Catholic Church is not a denomination, but as for the Eucharist (I do believe in the real presence myself) uniting Christianity, I have to politely disagree. Now I know Holy Communion unites the CC, but what unites all Christians is the cross. Remember, on the front of our uniforms? No matter what Church you go to, there is a cross, and on it, our Lord died for us, and when he arose from the grave, ascended into heaven, we were called Christians, followers of Christ.

As for Protestants wavering on issues like homosexuality and abortion, is sad and a disgrace to us. Morals.Never.Change.Period.

Actually, I’d have to add baptism to what unites christians.

And as much as I agree with you on morals never changing, not all Protestants believe in the unchanging morals.

 

[Swiss_Guy]

Christians are united through the Holy Spirit

One receives the Holy Spirit by believing what they heard

Heard what? About the rosary, Marys medallion? Purgatory? Calvinism or any of the other thing that the Catholic church or Protestant churches uses to separate itself from others?

Heard that Christ was the Son of God, died for us, and rose from the dead. Many were converted after a single sentence in Acts. The simplicity of Christ is meant to penetrate the heart so one can receive the Holy Spirit–thats what identifies Christians to GOD…nothing else.

Once all the churches drop their power trips and consider how people were converted by the apostles, Christians will be united to themselves. I say themselves… because real Christians are already united through the Holy Spirit to GOD.

Look, God knew it would be like this. If he wanted it to be different he would back up what individual preachers said through miracles as he did with Paul, Peter and the rest. But He doesnt does he?

If the catholic Church was suppose to be the “be all and end of all” God could make that quite clear. But what has happened instead? The C Church has had a history of shame and so has the Protestant church to some extent.

So what do we do? We let go of traditions and commandments of men and go back to pure Christianity.

Oh, but we do love our traditions dont we? Some just love religion and ritual. It was that same love that caused God to impose the Law of Moses. A law that Paul said was akin to slavery. And what did the Pharisees do…they heaped on more… just as the Catholic Church has done. The Calvinists have their almighty code…and so on and so on until Jesus Christ is buried beneath the rubble of human pride.

I believe it is the lust for power and control that all these divisions exist and laymen reap the negatives. But all of this does serve to make a separation that is evident to God. There are those who will continue to hold on to their divisions and there are those who have a stronger faith in Jesus Christ. A faith that crushes this quest to return to the days of the pharisees.

And how did they receive this Holy Spirit? Baptism perhaps? Didn’t Peter say something like repent and be Baptized, to receive the Holy Spirit?

And I strongly encourage you to read up on the Catholic Church (unbiasedly!!!).

And who did you get the Bible from? (no conspiracy theories please ).

And God did make it quite clear that the Catholic Church is the true Church of God. (1 Tim. 3:15, Matt 16:18, 18:17-18, Matt 28:20, John 17:21, many more I can’t think of off the top of my head. And the Church existed before the Bible. The Bible was put together at the Council of Carthage by the Catholic Church. Even Martin Luther admitted that the Catholic Church gave the world the Bible.) And the Law of the Catholic Church isn’t the Mosaic Law. It follows the commandments of Christ - LOVE! Christ commanded us to love one another. And I could argue that the Protestant denominations have a more shameful history than the Catholic Church, and it has a 1500 year head start! What’s so shameful about the Church’s history? The inquisition? done by the Spanish government. the crusades? Well, someone had to protect Europe from Islam and the Turks, after 400 years of conversion/murdering in Arabia and North Africa. Without them you might not even be Christian.

Oh and yes, it was lust for power that these divisions exist. If no one had them, we wouldn’t have Protestants.
It all comes down to authority - is it you (unbiblical - if so, prove it), or the Church? And if you say the Bible is, show me where it says it. And either way, who has the authority to interpret the Bible correctly, you or the Church?

And lets also see a verse that proves Sola Scriptura.

If something I said was off topic or unrelated to you, disregard it please.

 

[asd72]

Thanks. I plan on going to get a Catechism this week from a local Catholic bookstore. Research a bit and then visit a Catholic Church. Very nervous and exited. LOL!

Yeah I was nervous too the first time I attended. There’s some good information on the Mass in the Catechism, so check that out.

 

[CopticChristian]

Christians are united through the Holy Spirit

One receives the Holy Spirit by believing what they heard

I have read all of your posts. You have not asked one question. You have provided one long sermon on what you believe attacking The One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. Your advice is to wake up and leave because all I need to do is listen to the Bible be read to me and then I can get saved and go to heaven. I have heard this before. You ask no questions, you offer no insights, you preach and poorly I might add.

You preach a distorted view of the Book of Romans

17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

You believe that if someone has the bible preached at them then they can be regenerated by the Holy Spirit and then accept Jesus. The problem with that is that the order of those verses is reversed. The confessing is before the hearing. This is another gospel.

Your view is twisted and distorted by your inability to look beyond what you think you know. You confuse works of the law with works, traditions with holding fast to Traditions that were taught. I guess you believe no one here has not seen this stuff before.

Come down off your soap box, empty your mind and get straight, like Paul on Straight street, renew your mind, repent for the kingdom is at hand.

 

[PRmerger]

So what do we do? We let go of traditions and commandments of men and go back to pure Christianity.

Let go of traditions?

[SIGN1]I should say not! [/SIGN1]

That would be contrary to Scripture, wouldn’t it?

What you are saying, brother, is the antithesis of this:

Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.

 

[Lifesong]

As an RCIA candidate coming from Methodism I agree mostly with the OP. Sad that the church I am leaving has forgotten some of that though I know and love plenty of Godly Methodist brothers and sisters in my local church and still consider them my friends. Watch out though OP- I started out over a year ago investigating Catholicism because I could never get my Catholic husband to be on the same page with me and here I am in RCIA! God works in amazing ways!

Val

 

[Eric_Hyom]

The greatest path to unity is through the greatest commandments, all the law and the prophets of God hang and depend on these commandments. I believe the commandments need to be expanded to understand unity.

How can we all love God with all our hearts, soul, mind and strength?

How can we love those who are diiferent to us, as we love ourselves?

How can we love people of other denominations as we love ourselves?

If we solve these questions, we shall solve unity

Every blessing

Eric

 

[Publisher]

The greatest path to unity is through the greatest commandments, all the law and the prophets of God hang and depend on these commandments. I believe the commandments need to be expanded to understand unity.

How can we all love God with all our hearts, soul, mind and strength?

How can we love those who are diiferent to us, as we love ourselves?

How can we love people of other denominations as we love ourselves?

If we solve these questions, we shall solve unity

Every blessing

Eric

Now THIS I can unite with.

 

[Eric_Hyom]

Now THIS I can unite with.

It seems to make sense when we start with the greatest first, after all Jesus said there is no greater response to any situation, otherwise he would have said something else is greater for us to do…

Blessings

Eric

 

[Publisher]

It seems to make sense when we start with the greatest first, after all Jesus said there is no greater response to any situation, otherwise he would have said something else is greater for us to do…

Blessings

Eric

“Though I speak with the tongue of men and angels…and understand all mysteries…and and all knowledge…if I have faith to remove mountains…if I don’t have love…it profits me nothing.”

“I was hungry…thirsty…in prison…if you do it to the least of these, you have done it to me.”

This is the ONE THING we do not want to miss…“love covers a multitude of sins”.

 

[CompSciGuy]

That eliminates the majority of pre-Nicene Council Christians.

Amber

If by “pre-Nicene Council Christians” you mean “pockets of heretics outside of the Church,” then you would be right. Otherwise you’re just buying into anti-Christian propaganda.

 

[RyanK]

Thanks. I plan on going to get a Catechism this week from a local Catholic bookstore. Research a bit and then visit a Catholic Church. Very nervous and exited. LOL!

That’s awesome! I myself am 19 years old and became catholic at 18. I found everything on my own through constant prayer, research, and talks with those who I knew to be faithful. I explored and researched every form of Christianity and religion and finally came into the catholic church. So keep exploring man, you’ll find what you’re looking for and even more!

 

[amber_lux]

If by “pre-Nicene Council Christians” you mean “pockets of heretics outside of the Church,” then you would be right.

You do realize that the First Nicene Creed is not Trinitarian, don’t you?

Amber.

 

[Cavaradossi]

That eliminates the majority of pre-Nicene Council Christians.

Amber

Were the belief in the Trinity not widespread before Nicaea, the bishops would not have voted the way they did. Nicaea was simply making formal the doctrine of the Trinity which was already widely held.

 

[Cavaradossi]

You do realize that the First Nicene Creed is not Trinitarian, don’t you?

Amber.

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father;
By whom all things were made both in heaven and on earth;
Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man;
He suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven;
From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
And in the Holy Ghost.
But those who say: ‘There was a time when he was not;’ and ‘He was not before he was made;’ and ‘He was made out of nothing,’ or ‘He is of another substance’ or ‘essence,’ or ‘The Son of God is created,’ or ‘changeable,’ or ‘alterable’—they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.

You are incorrect, it is Trinitarian.

 

[rainman10]

but what unites all Christians is the cross. Remember, on the front of our uniforms? No matter what Church you go to, there is a cross, and on it, our Lord died for us, and when he arose from the grave, ascended into heaven, we were called Christians, followers of Christ.
.

This is not entirely true. Even with the cross there is a little bit of a division. We Catholics look to the crucifix and, as far as I know, the majority of protestants look to the cross.