I think the Baptist church is false help me convert my parents

[Wannano]

I believe you and feel that had you pointed out the danger in making “false” statements and assumptions you could still be supportive in a helpful fashion.

 

[DictatorCzar]

My Baptist church uses in the name of Jesus not the Trinitarian formula. That’s what my mom said.

 

[Wannano]

Well then be informed that your Baptist Church is not a normal Baptist Church and change your title and posts in this thread to say “my Baptist” not “the Baptist.”

 

[pulchraesamicamea]

Hey! I know it’s hard. It was hard for me- it was hard for my family as well. But my family and myself later became very devoted Catholics.
Please do not worry and go step by step. Since you found the Catholic Church first, why don’t you become baptized first into the faith? I am guessing that, same as me when I did my conversion, you do not need to be baptized sinve you are already a Christian. However, you should see a priest for this- I suggest to go to a near parish and ask for a RCIA program. This is a program which you will undergo catechism of the Church and become a member of the Catholic Church.
Let me know what you think!
I was a teen as well when I converted to the faith. 19 and first year of the university.

 

[guanophore]

But I don’t agree with he Baptist church.

What makes you say this?

show that the Baptist church is false

I am not at all sure this is an appropriate activity for a Catholic. Our Church teaches that the Holy Spirit is at work in such ecclesial communities and that there are many graces in them that lead people to Christ.

One of the most important to me when I sojourned among the Baptists is love of Scripture.

I am curious why it would be important to you to show that the Baptist Church is “false”.

I’m kind of angry at her because I’m trying to tell her about other churches with all of this info I’m researching but all she says is I don’t know. How am I supposed to talk to her if she doesn’t know.

It is your duty to honor your parents. One way to honor them is to accept their faith tradition, even if you do not share it. If she chooses not to know, it is your place to respect her choice. Obviously this is not a viable option for you (you clearly need to research and find out more about other faith traditions), but live and let live!

I just think that the Baptist church looks unoriginal.

I am not sure what this means, but definitely there are many Baptists who have a very “original” faith in Christ which should be respected.

Like you can’t lose salvation, even though you can lose salvation.

Well, technically speaking, it is more a case of “never being saved in the first place”. Most Baptist espouse a Calvanistic theology (TULIP) that translates “once saved always saved” which means people that backslide or later deny Christ were never in the fold in the firsdt place.

I love history so I would study the past and it shows the Baptist church skipping 1500 years after Christ’s crucifixion to make a new church.

Catholics follow the Apostolic teaching that our journey to salvation is not complete until the end of this life. Throughout our time here on earth, we are working out our salvation.

I love history so I would study the past and it shows the Baptist church skipping 1500 years after Christ’s crucifixon to make a new church.

As you continue to study history, you will learn more about why they felt this was necessary. When they read the New Testament, they could not equate the Church of the Middle Ages with what they were reading.

 

[pulchraesamicamea]

Hi @guanophore,
I asked her to consult a priest about this matter- and about the history, too. I am an English major who studied history for three years and can understand everything you have said here.
Conversion is difficult but so beautiful at the same time, and I think it’s good to start with some guidance.
Sending you love!

 

[guanophore]

Why can’t chritistians just have one church and agree on everything instead of having divisions.

You are giving a good example of this yourself. You are frustrated that your mother is not interested in discussing these things. People are people, and we tend to be intolerant with each other.

Ultimately I think you will find that it all boils down to authority. Baptists look to the Scripture as the final authority. Catholics consider Scripture authorative, but recognize that Jesus gave authority to people, not books, however Holy.

Yes, it would be great if there is only one Church which everyone is part of.

Technically speaking, Jesus only founded One Church, so there really is only One, and all who are in Christ are in His One Body, the Church.

Here’s a thought. Steve Ray converted to Catholicism from the Baptist tradition. He is one of the best apologists I know of.

Yes Steve Ray is great. You can download plenty of podcasts.

I am not a Baptist but I find the statement “the Baptist Church is false” as inappropriate and offensive and should not be allowed on this forum.

You are right, it is incumbent upon all members to respect the faith of others. I agree, we would not want this said about the Catholic Church (though it is said all the time, often by Baptists!).

Yes, because the Bible keeps talking about false teachers and false religions. It says that they will lead many to astray.

Those warnings are for individuals. Take them to heart for yourself, but don’t invest yourself in criticizing the faith of others. Jesus has taught us that the wheat and the tares grow together until the harvest. He has called us to bear much fruit - not to be inspectors of other people’s fruit. Do what you know is right for you, and respect others will do the same.

 

[pulchraesamicamea]

Congratulations! I was a Baptist myself.
I have been Catholic since 2015.

 

[Cjbhoward]

Those warnings are for individuals. Take them to heart for yourself, but don’t invest yourself in criticizing the faith of others. Jesus has taught us that the wheat and the tares grow together until the harvest. He has called us to bear much fruit - not to be inspectors of other people’s fruit. Do what you know is right for you, and respect others will do the same.

Very nice.

 

[John10]

Hi,

I would encourage you to do research and let the evidence lead to the only Church Christ ever established. I am convinced it is the “Catholic Church”. He clearly wants only one Church, since having many causes confusion and division. However, we must respect other Christian denominations even if we do not agree 100% with all of their beliefs and doctrines. We must also remember they too have good things, although lacking a complete deposit of faith, most of them have at least have a partial one which is always better than none.

The main issues with the Baptist Church as I understand it is their belief on salvation by personal faith in Jesus alone. This is contrary to what the Catholic Church teaches, since we believe faith, works and perseverance is needed. The Baptist Church also denied the fact that children or infants should be baptized, they believe only adults should be, hence their Church name. This is also contrary to what the Catholic Church teaches.

Babies and infants will not always understand fully what is going on during Baptism, but that should never stops their parents from doing what is best for their children. Afterwards, during Confirmation which is done later on, they will in fact, acknowledge and assert that they believe what the Catholic Church teaches.

Parents must always lookout for their children until they are mature and old enough to understand things, this is one of their main responsabilities.

God Bless

 

[angell1]

focus on your own conversion first, then ask god to give you opportunities with your family, but in the end, it’s their free choice, you can’t make them join the church no matter how much you want to

 

[DictatorCzar]

I try to explain the history here because she doesn’t know anything about Christian history. So I try to explain to her about the early church and the multiple schisms that happened before. And the Protestant reformation. I try to use bible verses to think wrong about my Baptist church. Like how you need to do good works and have faith. It’s clearly in the New Testament but I forgot where it was.

 

[Brendea]

As a teen sometimes its hard to obey your mother and father ( I have a 14 year old nearly 15 who thinks she’s right about everything)
However as a parent I have learned that sometimes I have to sit down and listen to her beacuse sometimes she has a valid point,

My Grandmother used to be Catholic ( infact my father was baptised Catholic) when her father died and her mother re married she started going to the Anglican church with them where she felt more comfortable than at the catholic church ( she started disagreeing with the Catholic churchas teachings)
After the Anglican church she decided she didn’t feel at home there. So she tried going to the Presbyterian church she didn’t feel very welcomed there either. She now attends the Baptist Church and feels comfortable and at peace there she has made many wonderful friends and is finally happy.
I would never try to convert her back to Catholicism she has made her choice and her happiness is important to me.

Whilst my father was baptised Catholic my mother does not believe in God she wouldn’t even sign a permission slip for me to attend RE at school my Father decided it was best to allow us to make our own decisions regarding religion.
Only for me to decide that the Catholic church was best for me and my children.

Sometimes you have to allow someone to find their own way and sometimes you have to allow them to stay where they are happy. It can be daunting for someone to change something especially when they are happy.
Just beacuse you feel your mother is wrong doesn’t always mean that you are right nor does it mean she’s entirely wrong.

 

[Cjbhoward]

Like how you need to do good works and have faith. It’s clearly in the New Testament but I forgot where it was.

I think it’s the other way around. Fruit of faith is good works.

 

[CatholicDetroit]

Respect the fact that everyone has their own spiritual journey and beliefs. Focus on loving them where they are in their journey and leave the converting solely to God.

 

[Sean]

Get a Catechism

 

[LoganBryce]

I grew up Baptist. I know how it is. They think they are as biblical as it gets. The only way is to show them they aren’t and to explain to them that their “feelings” that it’s the right church are false. First educate yourself as much as possible. Read the whole New Testament. I would recommend Catholicism by Robert Barron, a beautiful book for anyone. He is a great author. He also has podcast and YouTube videos. Why I’m Catholic and You Should Be Too by Brandon Vogt is a good book. Without educating yourself and knowing what questions could be asked you fail. Simple as that. Read as much as you can. Read on the catholic.com site (not this forum). Talk to a priest. I grew up Baptist. I went to a Church of Christ once I moved out on my own. I am now converting to Catholicism. DM me if you want. I cant promise I would be much help but I have been there.

 

[LoganBryce]

With all due respect, does happiness really matter more than truth? Would she not eventually have more happiness in Catholicism?

 

[LoganBryce]

Symbolic communion quarterly is a false teaching.

 

[Brendea]

I have to respect her wishes and I cannot force her to change religons she is her own person with her own beliefs just like I have my own beliefs.