Limiting marriage comes across to me like a four year old with a toy. “This toy belong to me! It is mine, mine, mine. And I will share it with no-one”.
I am not homosexual either. But I have no derision for those that are. I can’t see how two men or women’s living arrangement can have any effect at all on mine.
Amen.
andrewstx:
I think I would mark that up to the difference between men and women. Men by their our nature more promiscuous, hetero or homo makes little difference. Women, on the other hand to be much less promiscuous. They tend to make long lasting or life-long bonds. There s much less disease among women, including lesbians.
Not feeling it here. This is anti-male and offensive. There is definitely a fair share of women who have explored sexually. And a straight man can only be sexually loose because of sexually loose women.
DanielJT:
Your basis for argument is that - Civil Unions, or same-sex marriage, is acceptable to the secular and political community and therefore it is acceptable for a practicing Catholic to support it within a secular and political context.
An example, to clarify your argument - My neighbors are same-sex attracted living with their partner and not interested in the Catholic teachings I adhere to, I therefore I attend their wedding and support their marriage.
Not the best example. It’s not that you attend and support the marriage, but rather, that you do not oppose. Support is different from not oppose. But yes that is the gist of my argument.
Because if it is, it is wrong.
You see, the Catholic teachings that we try to adhere to do not change in their level of potency because the context changes. As Catholics we are called to take what we have learned from Christ and the Church and apply that to every aspect of our lives. The Catholic teachings should inform our decisions, whether they be personal or political.
But there are many Catholic teachings that need to be synthesized. Yes, the Bible arguably forbids homosexual sex. But the Bible also says we are to love our neighbor. The Bible also says we are to preach the Gospel. In the Bible, Jesus never did anything politically to overthrow Rome, although that’s what the Jews wanted. Rather, he died for us to save our souls.
So when we synthesize the whole of Catholic teachings, it is not fully clear that we MUST oppose gay marriage rights politically.
This is confusing to someone that has been influenced by the secular culture because the secular culture has espoused this dogma that “you can believe whatever you want, just don’t force it on me.” The problem is that statement internally contradicts itself. It is, in itself, a belief being forced upon those around it.
You CANNOT say that something is inherently wrong without saying that it is wrong for EVERYONE. How can something be considered morally wrong or dogmatically wrong, put politically acceptable? The value does not change based on context. If it does, then the value is not in fact a value, but something else.
You can be a caring loving neighbor, as Christ calls us to be, but Christ also calls us to oppose all sin. This means that you can love your same-sex attracted neighbors, but you cannot support what they call marriage.
Once again, this line of thinking assumes that there is only one Catholic teaching that applies here. But there are multiple teachings that must be synthesized. So therefore, our personal response to Christ’s teachings may differ from our political response, because various other teachings of Christ may come into play in the political arena.
Christ never imposed his teachings on the government of Rome. But that is what you are calling for.
And if everything that is morally wrong must be politically opposed, why aren’t Catholics doing more to oppose no-fault divorce, prostitution, and porn? Should we call for bans of sales of condoms and immodest clothing? Catholics should also ban Hollywood, Vegas, and arguably professional sports because of the depravity that exists there as well.
The government has a different purpose than churches. The government serves all of society. But not all of society is Christian. Therefore it is inevitable that things that are considered immoral by Christians would still be legalized or legally recognized.
The Vatican never advocates for theocracy. If I remember correctly, the Vatican does not oppose separation of church and state. But it looks like you are supporting theocracy.
