If anyone else would have said this, he's be labeled a "Rad'Trad"

[paramedicgirl]

I’m a segment.
The rest are having a movement n I ain’t within it cause I ain’t movin.

 

[paramedicgirl]

Real trads don’t.

Fake trads do. They’re protestants in Catholic clothing. And we’ve seen how the dictatorship of relativism works there.

Here we go again, calling trads Protestants. When will it end?

And what exactly* is* a fake trad???

 

[BobCatholic]

Here we go again, calling trads Protestants. When will it end?

And what exactly* is* a fake trad???

I have a great respect for real trads, as that is why I rail against fake trads, who try to confuse people by pretending to be real trads. Wolves in sheep’s clothing.

Real trads are not protestants. I have never called a real trad a protestant.

Real trads are in union with Rome and prefer the Classical Roman rite.

Fake trads are not in union with Rome. Some elected their own Popes. Some don’t have one. Others reject the Pope’s authority over their church. Some ordain “women priests” All have one thing in common: Mirror worship.

 

[TNT]

Here we go again, calling trads Protestants. When will it end?

And what exactly* is* a fake trad???

It’s an imaginary fat smurf… around 38yrs old.
It must be imaginary because googlin “fake trad”+catholic
gives you zip-nada in the entire planet.
So, what’s a fake is the term “fake trad”

 

[paramedicgirl]

It’s an imaginary fat dwarf… around 38yrs old.
It must be imaginary because googlin “fake trad”+catholic
gives you zip-nada in the entire planet.
So, what’s a fake is the term “fake trad”

Kinda hard to read, but it makes sense to me.

 

[Walking_Home]

It’s an imaginary fat smurf… around 38yrs old.
It must be imaginary because googlin “fake trad”+catholic
gives you zip-nada in the entire planet.
So, what’s a fake is the term “fake trad”

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Yup—made up.

 

[BobCatholic]

So, what’s a fake is the term “fake trad”

What is fake is lumping all kinds of “trads” in the same term “trad” - both sheeps and wolves.

This is just as intellectually dishonest as the term “stem cell research” - where the culture of death supporters want to lump in both the moral and immoral research under one umbrella term, so that people are fooled, thinking all stem cell research is the same. This is done to push a particular agenda - that of the culture of death.

In the same way “trad” is used, lumping both the sheep and the wolves in an attempt to sell the lie that all of them are the same.
This is done to push the fake trad agendas. Mirror worshipping dissent against the Pope.

This is why I use the term “fake trad” - I see through the fake trad propaganda, and have great respect for the real trads, and refuse to believe that both real and fake trads are the same.

 

[BobP123]

Real trads are in union with Rome and prefer the Classical Roman rite…Fake trads are not in union with Rome. Some elected their own Popes. Some don’t have one. Others reject the Pope’s authority over their church.

And since when has papalotry become a virtue?

 

[BobCatholic]

And since when has papolotry become a virtue?

This is exactly what protestants say. Interesting how both use
the same arguments?

Obedience to the Pope is not papolatry.

And since when is disobedience to lawful authority, lawfully exercised a virtue?

Mirror worship is not a virtue.

 

[BobP123]

This is exactly what protestants say. Interesting how both use
the same arguments?

So I’m a protestant because I read too much of Papal worship in some of the notes here? Say what?

The Pope is the Vicar of Christ on Earth. He is also the successor of Peter, whom Christ appointed as the Rock. But he is not God, who is still the Head of the Church. He is always to be obeyed first and no one is to be worshipped but Him.

 

[Walking_Home]

So I’m a protestant because I read too much of Papal worship in some of the notes here? Say what?

The Pope is the Vicar of Christ on Earth. He is also the successor of Peter, whom Christ appointed as the Rock. But he is not God, who is still the Head of the Church. He is always to be obeyed first and no one is to be worshipped but Him.

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If we start putting the Pope in equal par with God —we are in trouble.

 

[BobCatholic]

So I’m a protestant because I read too much of Papal worship in some of the notes here? Say what?

Rashly accusing someone of papal worship is a sin. A sin commonly done by protestants - and fake trads. Like I said before, the thinking is exactly the same, and thus the accusations from both are the same.

The Pope is the Vicar of Christ on Earth. He is also the successor of Peter, whom Christ appointed as the Rock. But he is not God, who is still the Head of the Church. He is always to be obeyed first and no one is to be worshipped but Him.

I never said to worship the Pope, as you are implying. However, Christ gave him the keys, and not to you or me. He has the authority on earth.

The mirror doesn’t have the keys.

Obedience to lawful authority, lawfully exercised, is our obligation, and that is to the Pope.

Not to the mirror.

 

[BobCatholic]

If we start putting the Pope in equal par with God —we are in trouble.

I have done no such thing.

If we put the mirror in equal par with God, we are in bigger trouble.

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[historyb]

Here is a good blog post from Abbey Roads that defines the different groups (levels) of traditionalists.

Rad-Trad: This group often out and out refuse to accept the changes “perpetrated” by Vatican II, especially as regards the Mass, although they remain obedient to their Bishops and the Pope. Many tend to regard all the reforms of Vatican II as the triumph of Modernism, so vehemently condemned by previous Popes, most notably Pius X. They pretty much hold suspect much of the theological thought after 1960. (I sure can’t hold that against them.) These faithful souls would be some of the last people on earth willing to support the canonization of John Paul II, who definitely was not “great” in their eyes. They remain, to be sure, faithful and devout Catholics nonetheless.

That could easily apply to me

 

[historyb]

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If we start putting the Pope in equal par with God —we are in trouble.

That is what a lot of people do.

 

[Walking_Home]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walking_Home
If we start putting the Pope in equal par with God —we are in trouble.

I have done no such thing
If we put the mirror in equal par with God, we are in bigger trouble.

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Rashly accusing someone of papal worship is a sin. A sin commonly done by protestants - and fake trads. Like I said before, the thinking is exactly the same, and thus the accusations from both are the same.

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Where did I say you did.

By the way–you have twice made the inference of protestant to a poster here. You may need to use that mirror to take a good look at yourself.

 

[estesbob]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t “rad trad” a prohibited term here?

Yes

 

[BobCatholic]

By the way–you have twice made the inference of protestant to a poster here. You may need to use that mirror to take a good look at yourself.

I didn’t call a poster here a protestant, perhaps you are taking my comments out of context?

I merely mentioned how exactly similar protestant thinking and fake-trad thinking with the belief that “obedience to the Pope = papalotry”

 

[paramedicgirl]

Many people have come on to the TC forum and called traditional Catholics protestants lately. We are getting sick of it. That’s all.

 

[BobCatholic]

Many people have come on to the TC forum and called traditional Catholics protestants lately. We are getting sick of it. That’s all.

Well, the fake trads (who are protestants masquerading as Catholics) deserve to be called what they are.

The real trads don’t deserve to be called protestants. They deserve our respect. They are faithful members of the Church.

Left wingers are yesterday’s news and are not with the program, and are quickly becoming irrelevant - their numbers are rapidly declining as they abort, contracept and homosexualize themselves out of existence.

Real traditionalists (and conservative Catholics) are the future of the Catholic Church.