If Jesus did not marry; then he is father of none

[paarsurrey]

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I believe Jesus was never a god who became man

Originally Posted by **WarriorAngel: **
ISAIAS 9:

6 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.

Originally Posted by Planten:

I won’t speak from myself but I will present the idea of some one who said that the above does not apply to Jesus at all. He said that the birth of Jesus could be wonderful. But the rest of things do not apply to Jesus.

1. Consellor: Jesus did not consult any one in his life. There is no record in bibleNT that Jesus consulted any one on important matters or he took any opinion from any one.

1. God the Mighty. His God the Mighty was some where else whom Jesus used to to pray to and whom he called out in distress (on the cross). If he was God the Mighty then whom he was calling? Another God Almighty? Are there two God Almighty.?

1. The Fathe rof the world to come: Jesus was not any father. All people hear about him as a son only. He never married. Every one saw Jesus s the son of Mary.

1. He was a prince alright, hailing from King David. But prince of peace does not apply. He did not see any peace himself nor did he bring peace to any one.

Jesus himself admitted that he had not come to bring peace in the world (See bibleNT please)

So all of the above could be meant for some one else othe rthan Jesus because the name of Jesus is not found in that verse of prophet Isaiah ch.9

 

[Rawb]

I believe Jesus was never a god who became man

I believe He was/is.

Well, that was fun.

 

[dolphinlove]

ok…
now i dont know how many times we have told you the purpose of Jesus coming to earth. We have told you numerous times the reason he did not marry, his purpose what not to marry, his purpose was to come here and teach, amongst other things!

Paarsurrey, you obviously cant by the idea of a man is not a man unless he gets married, has sex and has a child.
That is not the only thing that makes up a man, many other things make up a man as well you know.

 

[paarsurrey]

Originally Posted by WarriorAngel:
ISAIAS 9:

6 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.

Hi

I would add further.

**In physical sense **as our Catholics friends imagine; Jesus could ge no government nor he tried to have one.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

 

[catholic_daddy]

ok…
now i dont know how many times we have told you the purpose of Jesus coming to earth. We have told you numerous times the reason he did not marry, his purpose what not to marry, his purpose was to come here and teach, amongst other things!

Paarsurrey, you obviously cant by the idea of a man is not a man unless he gets married, has sex and has a child.
That is not the only thing that makes up a man, many other things make up a man as well you know.

Actually, Jesus came here to die.

 

[dolphinlove]

Actually, Jesus came here to die.

Yes i am aware he came to die for our sins, but with these muslims, they cant understand that, so why mention it.
Paars thinks Jesus didnt die and went to india… dont ask

 

[paarsurrey]

ok…
now i dont know how many times we have told you the purpose of Jesus coming to earth. We have told you numerous times the reason he did not marry, his purpose what not to marry, his purpose was to come here and teach, amongst other things!

Paarsurrey, you obviously cant by the idea of a man is not a man unless he gets married, has sex and has a child.
That is not the only thing that makes up a man, many other things make up a man as well you know.

Hi

Well you claim for Jesus is not of a man; your claim is for a perfect man, and a perfect man must marry and have children, only then we could know he his behaviour was with his wife/wives and his sons. One cannot look on Jesus as an examplary Model of a husband or as a father to his sons, so essential for a family. Why should one deny Jesus of this natural instincts gifted to him by GodAllahYHWH? Just for some imaginary sins of the Catholics and their atonement. Can’t one stop sinning so that there is no need for this imaginary sacrifice, that never happened, for Jesus’ sake.

Let Jesus enjoy his life; like you all yourself enjoy so much. Why to make him a scape goat, for nothing?

One could however differe with me with solid reasons; that is one’s birth right.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

Actually, Jesus came here to die.

Hi

I don’t deny for the motal Jesus ; but that happened later, after when he was saved from a cursed death on Cross, and when he migrated to India, he died a respectful, peaceful and natural death in India.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

 

[ronyodish]

after when he was saved from a cursed death on Cross, and when he migrated to India, he died a respectful, peaceful and natural death in India.

This is the song that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends. Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was, and they’ll continue singing it forever just because…

Rony

 

[paarsurrey]

ok…
now i dont know how many times we have told you the purpose of Jesus coming to earth

Hi

Well that was just an opinion of yours; I did not buy it, and gave my reason for that. You cannot assign a purpose to Jesus now; he had died some 2000 years ago, in India. Yours is an afterthough, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

 

[Catholic90]

Hi

Well you claim for Jesus is not of a man; your claim is for a perfect man, and a perfect man must marry and have children, only then we could know he his behaviour was with his wife/wives and his sons.

Thanks

Hi

I don’t deny for the motal Jesus ; but that happened later, after when he was saved from a cursed death on Cross, and when he migrated to India, he died a respectful, peaceful and natural death in India.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

Wow, Pars- you are really driven by sex, aren’t you?

And WHAT are you smoking that you think Jesus went to India?!?!

Dude - lay off the weed!

May I ask why you come to a CATHOLIC board and post so many lies on this board? Nothing you say has any grain of truth to it, and you really look silly.

 

[johnchen]

Hahahahahahaha!!!
So fun!

 

[dolphinlove]

Hi

Well you claim for Jesus is not of a man; your claim is for a perfect man, and a perfect man must marry and have children, only then we could know he his behaviour was with his wife/wives and his sons. One cannot look on Jesus as an examplary Model of a husband or as a father to his sons, so essential for a family. Why should one deny Jesus of this natural instincts gifted to him by GodAllahYHWH? Just for some imaginary sins of the Catholics and their atonement. Can’t one stop sinning so that there is no need for this imaginary sacrifice, that never happened, for Jesus’ sake.

Let Jesus enjoy his life; like you all yourself enjoy so much. Why to make him a scape goat, for nothing?

One could however differe with me with solid reasons; that is one’s birth right.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

As i have said, we have explained to you why Jesus had to do what he did, and why he did do it. I will not repeat myself a billion times more.

As for Jesus being perfect, he was perfect, he is God. You cannot get more perfect than God.

Now, you answer me this, why does a man only really become a man after he is married and has had children? Why, if a man chooses he doesnt want to get married and have children, does this make him a ‘lesser’ man.

Some men have a low sperm count and cant have children, does this make them a lesser man?

We have Catholic priest who choose to abstain from having sex, are they lesser men as well?

Paars, a man doesnt have to have a family to prove his manhood, a man is defined by the way he lives his life and they way he treats people and worships God, getting married and having kids is not the be all and end all to proving their manhood.

 

[Catholic90]

Hahahahahahaha!!!
So fun!

Yea, this Pars is quite … interesting…deluded…misinformed…and entertaining.

He (she?) has some really whacked out ideas.:whacky:

It is always amusing to read her (his?) posts. Pull up a chair and some popcorn and prepared to be amused!

 

[paarsurrey]

Hi

Perfectness of a man is being a mortal; and then to serve the IMMORTAL and be rewardes suitably by Him. One entity cannot be Mortal and Immortal at the same time; this would be a paradox. Isn’t it?

One could differe me with sound reasons; I only mention what is my opinion sincerely.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

 

[dolphinlove]

Hi

Well that was just an opinion of yours; I did not buy it, and gave my reason for that. You cannot assign a purpose to Jesus now; he had died some 2000 years ago, in India. Yours is an afterthough, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

There are witnesses to Jesus’ death on the cross. There is NO evidence of him being in india at all.
His death saved us, and i will continue to believe that ALWAYS!
Now that is just not an opinion of mine, its a fact that it happened.
I do not buy this Jesus going to india thing, and same with all of Jesus’ believers. There is no evidence to prove your claim, just a claim from your prophet, who, according to islam, should not be a prophet as muhammad was meant to be the last prophet.
Your religion is quite contradictory Paars.
Now, your opinion is an afterthought to me, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary too, the real Jesus and Mary that is.

thanks

 

[dolphinlove]

Hi

Perfectness of a man is being a mortal; and then to serve the IMMORTAL and be rewardes suitably by Him. One entity cannot be Mortal and Immortal at the same time; this would be a paradox. Isn’t it?

One could differe me with sound reasons; I only mention what is my opinion sincerely.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

So are you putting limitations of what God can do?
God can do anything he wants, he can give me 3 heads and 5 arms, i wouldnt question him, im sure he has a valid reason if he chose to do so.
Now, if God wanted to, he can come here in the form of a man, as we have said to you, Jesus is the word of God.
There is no limit as to what God can do, and what he would want to do, but its obvious you have put the limitations on him.

 

[adrift]

Your premise is incorrect. Jesus is God. God created all of us. We are His children. Without God no one can exist. In reality, those we call father are only such because God allowed them to help Him bring about a child. So in essence none can call anyone father but God. Jesus is God.

 

[adrift]

Hi

Perfectness of a man is being a mortal; and then to serve the IMMORTAL and be rewardes suitably by Him. One entity cannot be Mortal and Immortal at the same time; this would be a paradox. Isn’t it?

One could differe me with sound reasons; I only mention what is my opinion sincerely.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

With God there is no paradox nor is there limitations on what He can do. You limit Him to much.

 

[Catholic90]

Hi

Perfectness of a man is being a mortal; and then to serve the IMMORTAL and be rewardes suitably by Him. One entity cannot be Mortal and Immortal at the same time; this would be a paradox. Isn’t it?

One could differe me with sound reasons; I only mention what is my opinion sincerely.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

God has no limits as to what He can do? Why do YOU limit Him, Pars?

You offer YOUR opinion…which as many others have pointed out numerous times is fatally flawed.

My opinion as to why you post here so much is that you know in your heart of hearts that Mohammed was flawed and Catholicism offers the truth. You are really seeking the truth by being here so much. Swim that river, Pars! We will be very excited to see you join the true faith! You claim you love Jesus and Mary. Show the REAL love and join us!