If there were a Pro-Life Democratic candidate

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There are 20 or more candidates who have declared their decision to run for the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination, but none in the group has chosen to side with those on the Pro-Life side of the abortion issue.
I wonder what would happen, if one chose to change his or her stand on the issue? The Me, Too element of the party would come down hard on them, but I wonder how many Catholics would then chose that candidate?
I say this because the Democrats are right on so many issues, from higher wages to affordable health care to a clean environment.
 
Many Catholics do vote Democrat, pro-life isn’t just about abortion. It is a very broad umbrella (prisoner rights, animal rights, equality, environmental justice, minority rights, adoption, abortion, self-worth, mental illness advocation, suicide, human trafficking, sexual abuse victims, gun violence…)

Just limiting pro-life to abortion stunts the entire Social Gospel that we are all called to be witnesses of. Don’t assume every “good” Catholic is a faithful Republican just because they claim to be pro-life
 
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What is your definition of “Pro-Life”?

Does a candidate who is okay with some abortions qualify as Pro-Life? If they are okay with aborting when the father is a criminal and they are okay with aborting when the person will be born really disabled, is that Pro-Life enough?

Does a candidate who is okay with torture still qualify as Pro-Life?
 
I understand what you are saying. I also know some Catholics who are Pro-Life, but feel conflicted about voting Republican because of Donald Trump’s history and his disposition.
 
I have been promising myself to stay away from certain topics here and one is politics…but the tragic reality ( I once was a liberal democrat and my family has always voted democrat…you wouldn’t dare vote any other way) the tragic reality is that Catholics or anyone who professes to be Christian are still voting for party candidates who are democrats. The democrat party no longer is what it once was. It has sold its soul to evil at any cost. Being an independent is no fun but have no other option at this time. Can the democrat party ever come back to God fearing and loving ways…time will tell.
 
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but I wonder how many Catholics would then chose that candidate?
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My guess is practically none. The pro-life movement has come to encompass other causes besides abortion, mostly in line with the Republican Party platform. And it has become intimately aligned with the Republican Party, and in particular with the Trumpist branch of that party.

As a pro-life Democrat, I feel extremely at easy dealing with the Pro-life Movement, and vice versa. Opposing abortion is not enough to satisfy them.
 
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It is a very broad umbrella (prisoner rights, animal rights, equality, environmental justice, minority rights, adoption, abortion, self-worth, mental illness advocation, suicide, human trafficking, sexual abuse victims, gun violence…)

Just limiting pro-life to abortion stunts the entire Social Gospel that we are all called to be witnesses of. Don’t assume every “good” Catholic is a faithful Republican just because they claim to be pro-life
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Yes, but given how the recent party isn’t even in favour of restrictions, getting rid of partial birth abortions, against the born alive act, and is against religious freedom (i.e. People of faith denying to offer services that promote same sex marriages, abortions or birth control)…a Catholic shouldn’t be a faithful Democrat either.

And I’m saying this as someone who isn’t even American or in the West. I don’t think Catholics must be Republican because there are several issues with that too, but it’s getting harder and harder to morally justify a blue vote imo. Especially given the fact that most of these other issues that a Catholic would vote for may not even happen (free college/health care etc) in all states.

I guess what I’m saying is, idk how one can be a proud democrat or republican. Good luck for 2020 :confused:
 
I sure many people think the GOP has sold its soul to the Devil with Trump at the top of the ticket.
 
I don’t think there is a Republican Party any more. That party has become the Trumpist Party. I know of many, who once called themselves Republicans, who have left the party because of Trump. Too they do not have a party of their own.
 
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I think Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris or Tulsi Gabbard could beat Trump, in a fist fight or a political campaign.
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If any of those three get the nomination, especially Elizabeth Warren, then the Democrats can kiss the Presidency goodbye. They’re all way too extreme. Whether you like Trump or not, he was an extreme response to eight years of an extreme Democratic government. The Democrat response to extreme has apparently been… more extreme. Which will entrench the Trump hardliners and alienate centrist voters.
 
Abortion is the taking of a human life. It can not be justified. Why would killing a baby be justified because the father was a terrible sinner?
 
OBiden didn’t think so. He strengthen his support of abortion. In the democratic primary a pro life candidate doesn’t have a chance. So what you are suggesting could never happen.
 
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I agree, however, our OP has not clarified their position.
 
I know many Catholics at my parish who only vote Republican because of abortion. Many of them have said that they would vote Democrat if a pro-life candidate ran.

HOWEVER, these conversations were back in 2015. With the Democrats making a hard turn to the left since Trump, I’m not sure if any of them have changed their minds?

Personally, I would vote for a moderate prolife Democrat if one ran - assuming they can resist the pressure to move left on social/moral issues).

However, unfortunately, such a candidate would not have the support of the DNC.
 
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There is no equivalence between abortion and other social issue. There are a host of good ways to address the other issues you listed. Abortion is final. The baby is dead period!
 
John Bel Edwards is fantastic… however, at the same time, the Democratic Platform itself would need to be amended.
 
If the Dems consider voters like the women who wore those pink hats at a rally not too long ago as part of their core constituency, there will not be a pro life candidate.
 
It’s not just abortion.(though that in of itself should tell you how flawed their thinking is…no limit abortion is now becoming a very real possibility…killing innocent lives and them marketing it is a 'reproductive right?

Do you suppose medicare for all would be efficient and cheaper? (read higher taxes)

Do you think forcing employers to have higher wages work better?(Instead of lowering taxes, reducing bureaucratic hurdles, federal requirements and allowing small businesses to thrive. Higher minimum wages will also lead to inflation)

Do you think allowing illegal aliens a free pass to the country is better for it’s own citizens(read being able to access healthcare, get drivers licences and even vote)

Do you think pushing down a state sanctioned LGBTQ/Transgender policy down everyone is good?

Do think the Democrat run cities are better managed?

Do you think taxing people $600,000 per person (as part of the green new deal) so that the US may hypothetically reduce carbon emissions (Which will probably not matter as the developing countries don’t really care) is good?

Do you think shutting down people on the conservative side just because they do not agree with them is good?

There are lots of crazy ideas that the Democrats have, but it all boils down to this -

Vote for me …I’ll expand Government outreach , we will decide if you can have the baby, what you can teach your children , how you do business and tax you for all you have because the government can do all of this . The government (especially the progressive elitist leftists) know whats best . Leave your God , family and community .
 
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