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If you are a Christian, what is the real reason for you not being a Catholic?
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FredSmith
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From the looks of things, there won’t be anyone left.
One just called me a “snow covered dunghill”, another used vulgar language to mock the intimacy that my wife and I share, and that’s in addition to the other things I mentioned.
I understand that the carnal mind is at emnity with Christ and is going to mock the things of God and those who follow them, but for people who claim to be “Christ’s true church”, this is a little ridiculous.
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FredSmith
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Because we can read the New Testament and compare them.
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mgrfin
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I know Acts
That is a smart alec answer, Fred,
The Catholic Church was founded on Pentecost Sunday.
go in peace.
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mgrfin
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So do we on Baptism, the Eucharist, and the Sacrament of
Penance.
I seem to be the only one responding to you Fred. Everyone knows what you are about.
Let’s end it here. You are in denial, and disrespectful the the Catholic faith. I think all of the listeners have had enough. At. least I have.
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FredSmith
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Except that you don’t copy them. You sprinkle babies and tell them that the water imparts some sort of magic properties. That isn’t what the Bible teaches.
Nor does the Bible say anything about your idea of the Eucharist or the “sacrament of penance”.
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mgrfin
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Now you really showing your ignorance.
We don’t ‘sprintle’ in the Catholic rite of baptism. We pour water over the head.
I have quoted to you on the Eucharist, and Penance.
You are insulting our intelligence. You are an embarassment. You know it, and everyone else here knows it.
You came here under false pretenses. Pretending to be seeking answers to questions of faith, and all along you are a protestant minister who has nothing else to do on a Monday but to harass Catholics.
No matter what we say to you, you deny the one, true Catholic and apostolic Church of Jesus Christ, saying we got it wrong, and your little bible church got it right 20th centuries later.
Enough of your smugness, and instults to our Catholic faith and practice.
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FredSmith
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Both are Unbiblical.
No, you copied and pasted a string of verses that had nothing to do with either one.
We have it right because we’re following the Bible. Please feel free to explain what you feel we’re doing that’s Unbiblical.
And when are you going to have enough of insulting me personally, and our Christian faith and practice?
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mgrfin
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FredSmith
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Lifelong prejudice? If I had a lifelong prejudice against it, then why did I so seriously consider becoming a Roman Catholic before I got saved? Why would I say such kind things about the priests and nuns who taught me in parochial school?
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FredSmith
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OK. What do we lie about?
And, since I’ve never even told you the name of my church or where we’re located, how do you know we’ve lied about anything?
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CalmDownWisWins
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Fred, please try to have your questions answered by actually asking questions, regardless of the behavior of others.
You may certainly also make statements as to what you believe, but you’re speaking out of a vaccuum (to Catholic ears) when you say things such as, “the bible says nothing about your idea of the Eucharist”.
You can’t POSSIBLY believe that that is what Catholics believe if you’ve read more than 25 individual posts in nearly any thread with the word “eucharist” in it!
When you say wacky things like that, you utterly obliterate any credibility you may very well possess, and demonstrate your lack of charity by not doing your homework and blaming others for your own misunderstandings of Catholic “positions”.
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CalmDownWisWins
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You are being unbiblical by giving FULL authority in a thing which tells you to take disputes to the Church, and not to “a collection of writings”.
In other words it’s TELLS you to not use it as the final arbiter of truth, as it can’t be used to interpret itself.
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CalmDownWisWins
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“before I got saved”
Well, there’s your problem right there!
You actually think that you’ve BEEN SAVED (past perfect) when you can’t know that until you’ve made the choice of God at your end!
You pretend to know the future? That is “lying” at least (though more likely merely simple minded “wishful thinking”), if not actual “attempted sorcery”!
Please do read up a bit on REAL theology before giving us the rather humorous image you present of your community.
Thanks for yet another illuminating view into the protestant mind.
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Jimmy_B
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"Well there’s your problem Mister"
Fred I think it is best that we start with the Bible.
Your “New Testament”, may or may not be accurate. If it is a King James Version (KJV), there are numerous examples where a word or a sentence have been changed or removed to put a Protestant spin on the Bible. How do I know this? I know this because I have a King James Version Bible and Catholic Bibles and I have compared them against each other, alone and with a “Born Again’ friend of mine. I have also researched the original Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic words and sentences in question.
I was amazed at what I discovered. Initially it actually made me mad to think that someone would deliberately produce a corrupt Bible, but then again Protestants are so named because they are protesting.
With the age of technology, all the linguists and Bible scholars today, I am shocked that anybody would be a Christian and not be a Catholic.
Fred, don’t take my word for it, purchase a Catholic (New American Bible), or go here
nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/
I think you will be surprised at what you find. In the mean time, if you have a newer KJV, with an open mind, read the footnotes and the translations in your bible and compare them to the Catholic Bible.
Additionally, you will note that the KJV study Bibles avoid commentary on any verses that support Catholicism, if it supports Catholicism, it is avoided all-to-together, that is the protestant way.
The Bible is a Catholic book!
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**Why is it that Protestants avoid the Acts of the Apostles and the Catholic Epistles: Hebrews, James, 1 Peter, 2 Peter, 1 John, 2 John, 3 John and Jude? **
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Have you read any of these books from beginning to end?
I have read these books and they are definitely Catholic. These books are so Catholic that I am surprised the they were left in the Protestant Bible…
Note: Martin Luther wanted to remove the book of James (“the Catholic book”) from the Bible and called it the “Book of straw”.
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SyCarl
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I don’t think that the King James Version is a deliberately corrupted version. Many of the differences in the New Testament then and now is due to the Greek text used. The KJV used the Textus Receptus which is basically the Byzantine textual family while most modern versions use a text based on the Alexandrian textual family.
I have read all the books you refer to many times. In fact Hebrews and 1 John are two of my favourite books. I find them to be quite compatable with Protestant teachings.
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2ndGen
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2ndGen
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“left” with a disclaimer that sums up to this…
…“These books were added by Catholics. The are “not” the inspired word of God and we’ve taken them out a couple of times, but we’re going to put them back in because make for pretty decent reading…just dont’ trust them to base your faith on! But even though they cannot be trusted, we’re leaving them in The Word of God.”
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