If you are a Christian, what is the real reason for you not being a Catholic?

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Namesake said:
That is not theology.
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Teaching that improper sacramental practices is false doctrine.

And he was wrong.

And I was right to call him on it.

And I used scripture to prove him wrong.

And not just once either.

There’s a ton of unanswered questions he never replied to.
 
2ndGen said:
Teaching that improper sacramental practices is false doctrine.

And he was wrong.

And I was right to call him on it.

And I used scripture to prove him wrong.

And not just once either.

There’s a ton of unanswered questions he never replied to.
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But it is not theology.
 
Among some of the more conservative branches of Quakerism are the “Evangelical Friends”…now Friends, Mennonites and Brethren are part of the “Historic Peace Churches”. Some of the “fringe theology” is different…Evangelical Friends typically don’t practice baptism or the Lord’s Supper, Mennonites do plus foot washing…Brethren baptize by trine immersion…YET at times Mennonite ministers do serve in Friend’s Churches…Friend Church ministers do serve in Brethren Churches…while it is not a common occurance…it does happen…the similarities are more important than the differences, which have their roots in history and church government…in many ways like the various Rites of the Catholic church or the various Orthodox groups.

I have found that many Catholics cannot get their mind around “differences” not really making too much difference to many Protestants…it’s just not something many concern themselves with.

I have a Nazarene friend who goes to a Baptist church as there is no Nazarene church close enough to his home, he feels he should support the Body of Christ in the community he lives in and he feels led to do so in the Baptist church…but in ‘theology’ he is Nazarene…but fits in nicely among Baptists.

The differences among most Protestants are not as large a concern as they would be in the Catholic mindset…unity is one of love, compassion and finding oneself “in Christ”, not church government and pet “doctrines.”
 
Pwrlftr said:
You aren’t the only person to have noticed that but I still fail to see how my answer will demonstrate anything.

I could:
a.) Square the two accounts so that they match which many Catholic scholars used to do.

b.) I could say that the two accounts are allegorical and are trying to teach us different things.

Either way, I don’t see what this is going to demonstrate.
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I was trying to point out that the Bible is not “inerrant.” I don’t really even know what that word encompasses. As Catholics, we regard the Bible as the Word of God, but that doesn’t mean all the facts are correct.
Pwrlftr said:
Your church hasn’t said one can’t accept a literal meaning either although I am pretty sure they would be in the minority in your church.
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What a “minority” would accept has nothing to do with what the CC teaches. The fact is, we are free to interpret the Bible within the “box” of the teachings of the Church. Regarding Creation, the Church has ruled only that we must believe all humankind descended from Adam and Eve.
Pwrlftr said:
This is very true but both your church and mine have spent a lot of time and money educating people.
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Yes, although I don’t know what your church is. You have yourself listed as Protestant. That only tells me you are not Catholic. Lots of different beliefs among Protestant denominations, as has been evidenced here.
 
2ndGen said:
Would you buy a bible from The Church of Satan?

Probably not.

How could you purchase one from it’s publisher?

Only one company owns the NIV and that company has trusted the publishers of the Satanic bible to publish The NIV.

A person has to be completely twisted to trust it (especially with all the inconsistencies and the words and passages that were moved, deleted, added according to that Protestant website I visited).
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The Church of Satan didn’t publish the NIV, HarperCollins is one of many who publish the NIV who also happens to publish the satanic bible.

It’s not true that only one company owns the NIV. You can buy the NIV from many publishers, Zondervan is just one.
 
qui_est_ce said:
I was trying to point out that the Bible is not “inerrant.” I don’t really even know what that word encompasses. As Catholics, we regard the Bible as the Word of God, but that doesn’t mean all the facts are correct.
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Read this by Pope Leo XIII

papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13provi.htm

****21. It follows that those who maintain that an error is possible in any genuine passage of the sacred writings, either pervert the Catholic notion of inspiration, or make God the author of such error. And so emphatically were all the Fathers and Doctors agreed that the divine writings, as left by the hagiographers, are free from all error, that they labored earnestly, with no less skill than reverence, to reconcile with each other those numerous passages which seem at variance – the very passages which in great measure have been taken up by the “higher criticism;” for they were unanimous in laying it down, that those writings, in their entirety and in all their parts were equally from the afflatus of Almighty God, and that God, speaking by the sacred writers, could not set down anything but what was true. The words of St. Augustine to St. Jerome may sum up what they taught: “On my part I confess to your charity that it is only to those Books of Scripture which are now called canonical that I have learned to pay such honor and reverence as to believe most firmly that none of their writers has fallen into any error. And if in these Books I meet anything which seems contrary to truth, I shall not hesitate to conclude either that the text is faulty, or that the translator has not expressed the meaning of the passage, or that I myself do not understand.”[60] ****
 
Pwrlftr said:
The Church of Satan didn’t publish the NIV, HarperCollins is one of many who publish the NIV who also happens to publish the satanic bible.

It’s not true that only one company owns the NIV. You can buy the NIV from many publishers, Zondervan is just one.
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Name one.
 
Namesake said:
But it is not theology.
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Yeah…sure.

the·ol·o·gy
–noun, plural -gies.
1.
the field of study and analysis that treats of God
and of God’s attributes and relations to the universe;
study of divine things or religious truth; divinity.
a particular form, system, branch, or course of this study.
 
2ndGen said:
Then I guess the bible lies when it states that it is The Church (not the bible) that is the foundation and support of all truth?

May I ask why you are saying the bible lies?

How does the bible lie 2ndGen? :confused:

2ndGen, you and the all the Roman Catholics in this community know most of us christian non-catholics place our faith in the bible and the bible alone, which we believe is the true word of God.

Based on your comment, “the bible lies” I would assume you do not believe is the true word of God.

**Correct?? **

If you did believe the bible is the true word of God, you indirectly would be calling God a liar jsut now, which I do not believe the case about any christian.

please correct me if I am wrong so far.

If I am not wrong, I respect the fact that Roman Catholics have planted their feet on the truth of the church teachings and the authority which comes from the Pope down through the apostolic succession to the parish priests.

Am I somewhat on target?

If I am, may I ask you to consider this, I respect the position of the Pope and I know how offended I would feel, when I was Roman Catholic, if I heard someone call the Pope a liar.

2ndGen, I know how much respect you have for the Pope, I been there. I would never call the Pope a liar.

As you know we non Roman Catholic christians have planted our feet on the truth of God’s word which we believe is the bible.

In all due respect, how do you think we feel when we hear anyone say the bible lies?

Do you know what I am asking?

I appreciate it

God bless,

truth
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🤷 so there is so much unity amongst you all, mind you i didn’t see everthing having to do with FredSmith, where where you namewsake and publisher when us catholics were “insulting him” or even helping him back up his claim? not scrapping just asking. have a good eve.
 
2ndGen said:
You must have missed it when he stated that the bible never stipulated that Jesus used unleaved bread for the last supper and that we could use any type of bread for the sacrament (while he insultingly called what Catholics used “Saltines” even though it’s Protestants who use crackers while Catholics use the same thing that Jesus used which he denied…unleavened bread).

So he was wrong to insult Catholics about Catholics using crackers for the Eucharist (when it was in fact his own religion that used Crackers).

He was wrong about Jesus using unleveaned bread for the Last Supper.

He was wrong to use leveaned bread.

He’s wrong all along…the real sadness of this all is that…

He’s a pastor!

With Christians following him!

:bigyikes:
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Those posts were removed when he was banned. He mocked the Pope, and the way the clergy dresses.

Read up on Calvary Chapel, where he is from. Steve Wood and other converts came from there.
 
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whatisthetruth:
#1, I “asked” that question.

#2, That was in reference to a statement made by the person I was responding to who said that “the bible” is the sole source of truth.

But the bible states that it is The Church that is the sole source of truth (not a “book”).

See that now?
 
2ndGen said:
#1, I “asked” that question.

#2, That was in reference to a statement made by the person I was responding to who said that “the bible” is the sole source of truth.

**But the bible states that it is The Church that is the sole source of truth (not a “book”).**See that now?
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Even your church doesn’t claim that it is the sole source of truth.

You have greatly overstated what your church teaches not to mention misunderstood what the scripture is saying.
 
2ndGen said:
Yeah…sure.

the·ol·o·gy
–noun, plural -gies.
1.
the field of study and analysis that treats of God
and of God’s attributes and relations to the universe;
study of divine things or religious truth; divinity.
a particular form, system, branch, or course of this study.
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Theology has no interest in the recipe for bread. But since you are Catholic, you of course are correct as always. You all defend Catholicism as though you are defending Jesus. It isn’t the same regardless of how often you hide there.

I’m sure glad I found this site. It brings back memories from my childhood growing up with mostly Catholics. Now I remember why I would never become a Catholic. Not very nice people generally.
 
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