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qui_est_ce
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Wow, you learn fast. Now preview your posts and see where you need to make corrections. You can also edit after submitting (I’m doing that now)
If you are a Christian, what is the real reason for you not being a Catholic?
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qui_est_ce
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Read up on Calvary Chapel. Steve Wood and several other Catholic Converts came from there. It’s a great place, on fire for Jesus, but relies on emotionalism and not on reality. They claim to be based on the Bible, but much of what they practice is not Scriptual. Steve Wood is on Catholic Radio with his daughter Stephanie. You can download his broadcasts and listen to him.
familylifecenter.net/
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qui_est_ce
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Please read your history, and then come back with honest rebuttals based on facts, not on hearsay. We do not recrucify Christ at mass. See the Last Supper verses for how Jesus told us to live out John 6.That’s OK for Catholics. But I don’t believe that at all. It’s a symbol of our dedication to follow Christ. We don’t eat our God! We do that in remembrance. We do not crucify Him every day!
therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html
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2ndGen
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Actually, I did check up on that particular church.
They are known for their ant-Catholicism and that makes them un-Christian for a person cannot be anti-Christian and be a Christian at the same time.
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qui_est_ce
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So Name will be our next Fred?Actually, I did check up on that particular church.
They are known for their ant-Catholicism and that makes them un-Christian for a person cannot be anti-Christian and be a Christian at the same time.
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2ndGen
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Looks like it.
In fact, he could very well “be” Fred himself!
LOL!
In fact, he could very well “be” Fred himself!
LOL!
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ralphinal
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Nope. There is only one Fred. Name could be Fred’s James or Nathanial. Hopefully Name is Fred’s Saul of Tarsis and will see the light. At least chill on the rhetoric a little
It’s more pleasant dealing with name than Fred to me.
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2ndGen
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oneGODoneCHURCH
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Name sake the reason that The Eucharist is not open to Non Catholics is that we hold to this is the Body and Blood of Jesus our Lord. If you believe this then you are on your way to being catholic. If you do not believe this then it would be wrong to allow you to partake , as it put you into saying you believe something you don’t. As for those few denominations that do practice a open communion since they do not hold that the bread and wine become the Real presence of the lord then they have no problem with as long as you believe in Christ it ok to commune. It boils down to weather or not It’s the Real presence of the Lord Christ. My pray is that one day the whole body of Christ will be in communion again. Til then those that do not hold to the Faith of Christ Catholic Church can not partake of the Eucharist
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2ndGen
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Amen.Name sake the reason that The Eucharist is not open to Non Catholics is that we hold to this is the Body and Blood of Jesus our Lord. If you believe this then you are on your way to being catholic. If you do not believe this then it would be wrong to allow you to partake , as it put you into saying you believe something you don’t. As for those few denominations that do practice a open communion since they do not hold that the bread and wine become the Real presence of the lord then they have no problem with as long as you believe in Christ it ok to commune. It boils down to weather or not It’s the Real presence of the Lord Christ. My pray is that one day the whole body of Christ will be in communion again. Til then those that do not hold to the Faith of Christ Catholic Church can not partake of the Eucharist
Because Jesus only gave The Catholic Church that ordination, it is not something that we just hand out like party gifts.
No other church takes The Sacrament of The Eucharist as seriously as we do.
A person calld to The Priesthood has to study for 10 years before they are on their own.
Then we’ll get called for being “too” regulated. Considering that God had well over 600 laws that He commanded of The Jews first, I’d say that heavy regulation is God’s prescription.
Look at what happened when man “deregulated” their churches? They collapsed under their own leaders.
I love being Catholic!
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fbl9
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hi all this has been a very interesting thread. it has caused me to look at why i did not precieve the catholic church as the true church. that same reson i rejected the church is the very same reason i came to embrace it. it is also the same reason, at the end of the day, why other christains are not in complete union with the church.It is God’s gift of infallibilty to HIS church.most people don’t have a full understanding of this precept. One can-not- reject a single doctrine the church teaches with out first rejecting the precept of infallibilty. my self i do not fully understand nor do i feel any need to understand this precept any more than i do. i ask would anybody accuse Jesus of not being charitble when He said unto Peter"get thee behind me satan" thanks for having me here may peace rule in your house.
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ralphinal
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great post. I shudder when I hear about “non-essential” doctrines. What is non-essential and who decides it?
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Mannyfit75
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They have the Elders the the Scribes and the Pharisees, and Sanhedrin… I’m sure you read the Bible… Even Jesus spoke to the Elders of the Temple…
In additon, to my comment, the authority of the Pharisees and Temple High Priests were taken away from them by God for this disbelief that Jesus is not the Messiah.
That authority was handed down to the New Covenant established by Jesus Christ. He build his Church upon Simon Peter, and the Apostles. Peter as the holder of the key.
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2ndGen
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And how could it be a doctrine if it’s non-essential?
It’s like calling the 10 Commandments the 10 Suggestions.
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2ndGen
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Peter and The Church in Revelations 3 which is The Church at Philadelphia.
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Pwrlftr
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Manny,
I said “Were the scriptures any good to the Jews? They didn’t have any infallible interpreter.”
Since nothing in your post hints at infallibility I am left wondering why you even bothered responding to me.
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mgrfin
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The creation? Do we have to believe it happened in that way. In seven days?
That the earth is flat, and everything revolves around the earth.
Again, the bible is not a scientific journal. It contains scientific errors.
Mankind is millions of years old, yet literalists (mostly Protestants) will say that mankind is only several thousands of years.
And the age of the prophets? Do you really believe these people lived several hundreds of years?
Let’s not be naive.
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fbl9
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hi mgrfin my memory though lacking recalls God saying He shortened man’s life span cause they lived to long thus having a longer list of sins against them. don’t remember if that was written before or after the flood.
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CalmDownWisWins
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The bible contains no errors whatsoever. It DOES contain many opportunities to be misinterpreted though!
Since you don’t listen to the Magisterium, you have a hard time seeing the difference between the bible’s “opportunity to be misinterpreted” and “error”, which is perfectly understandable.
Naivete of what the Magisterium teaches, and how that veritably DEMANDS that the bible be seen as containing “errors”, is what we are trying to remedy in these forums (fori?).
You are perfectly justified in your views due to your errant presuppositions. The question is how willing you are to have your presuppositions shown as being in error from the Catholic point of view?
No one’s asking you to give up your “belief system”. We’re just asking you to be clear in drawing conclusions based on incorrect presuppositions as to what WE believe.
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Pwrlftr
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You do realize you put yourself in direct opposition of several popes and the consistent treaching of your church don’t you? Fortunately, your church has never taught that the scriptures contain errors.
The point you bring up about creation is meaningless because the creation stories could be allegorical and need not be taken as literal historic events. Even so, your church has not defined as of yet which view is correct.
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