If you could, what changes if any would you make to the Ordinary Form?

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we have parish announcements, if they are important, just after or before dismissal. and they must be important. i.e., no mass tomorrow due to a funeral. If you feel guided by the Holy Spirit to have a say in the plenary council. email us 200 words max.
the prayers of the faithful are the prayers of the body of christ, thats us. I believe they are also important. we pray together.
 
Knowing the reason behind what each is for, I cannot find anything in the mass that needed change. I am a pretty stable person that is not easily changed or affected by the external and I am fine with the OF mass. Actually I thought it is very beautiful, purposeful and balanced. The problem perhaps is the abuse of the liturgy, if there is.

Maybe the area for improvement could be the homily. If it is precised, relevant and anointed breaking of the word, it would help in the mass and a take home message for the day.

Otherwise, no thanks, I am fine with the mass, have been thoroughly edified by it and believe it is really the work of the Holy Spirit.
 
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That I wouldn’t mind. At my parish, they consider it the utmost importance to notify us about the bake sale, men’s retreat, or parish Boy Scouts for the umpteenth time right before the dismissal. It feels very tedious to me.
 
Amen to this, Roseeurekacross!

The OF Mass is what led me and my husband to Catholicism. We have often speculated on the likelihood that we would have become interested in Catholicism in an EF Mass, and always (14 years now), our answer is “Highly unlikely, although the Lord God does perform miracles.”

I think that what should change about the OF Mass is that all of us should stop analyzing and criticizing it

Instead, we should enter into it humbly and reverently, recognizing that God has given His bishops authority on this earth, and that we should submit to this authority with gratefulness and gladness. “Enter His gates with thanksgiving and His courts with praise!”

We need to ask God to restore to us the joy of our salvation and come to Mass prepared to participate fully in every aspect of the Mass, not check out mentally and doze. I confess that there are Masses where I am off in la-la land thinking about my life, my favorite TV shows, my work, my kids, etc.

But above all, the spirit of contention and divisiveness needs to end. This is so harmful to the Church and a grave sin. Read through the New Testament epistles and see how many times the Apostles condemn “factions” and those who are involved in dividing the Church.

Those of you who simply can’t abide the OF Mass should seriously consider moving to a city where the EF Mass is offered (our city has it offered not only on Sundays, but daily as well). You will be happier, at least I think you will, unless the Spirit of Contention has so warped you that you would find fault even in the Traditional Mass.

I don’t understand how you remain Catholic when you are so unhappy–that alone tells me that God works through the OF Mass because He has managed to hang onto you in spite of all the “irreverence” and “banal music” and “spoken prayers” and “ad populum” and “CITH” etc., etc.! Think about that.

Think about that list of gripes that I just listed–that’s shameful! If a child of mine let loose with a litany of complaints like that, I would have sat her down and told her to start writing a list of a hundred things that she is grateful for! And yet we hear this constantly on CAF! It’s a wonder that anyone is attracted to Catholicism, considering how much Catholics themselves bash their Church!

Here’s a suggestion–if you are unhappy in the OF Mass and think that’s it’s “Protestant” or “irreverent” or “noisy”–take a field trip some Sunday to an Evangelical Protestant megachurch No fair attending a Mainline worship service-in many of these, there are still remnants of traditional liturgy. No, no, no–you head for a Protestant Evangelical service, preferably a non-denominational service, but if you attend a denominational service, make sure to attend the “Contemporary” service.

I’m guessing you will have to go to the ER afterwards for oxygen and tranquilizers!

It will make you appreciate your OF Mass! 🙂
 
My own revisions would instead go this way:

Keep the congregational responses. Retain permission to say the Eucharistic Prayer (Roman Canon) aloud and in the vernacular. Retain the Memorial Acclamation as is. Keep the people standing for the Our Father, to be said by the Community. Revise the rubrics so that the priest says the Our Father with his hands folded, not outstretched. Return to the old Confiteor, but reduce to one only, as it is today. Retain the Prayers of the Faithful, but only as a number of fixed, approved options and entrenched in the Ordinary. Retain St. Joseph in the Canon (I will never accept his removal). Remove the communal sign of peace. And especially, retain the current lectionary readings, but if it were up to me, I would approve only the RSV-2CE edition of the Lectionary.
 
When did St Joseph get removed from the Canon? It was added in 1961.
 
But I would move the Kiss of Peace closer to the beginning of Mass. Maybe after the Homily so as to not distract from the Eucharist. Or maybe just not have it at all like at some OF Masses I’ve seen.
The handshaking may not occur, but the Sign of Peace is most definitely present in some form or another!
Technically the OF can be celebrated ad orientem, unfortunately this is rarely done.
Not “technically”. Normatively. It is facing the people that is the option/permissive; the GIRM presumes the priest is ad orientum, and at multiple times, instructs him to turn and face the people.
I would not have us sing as many parts as we do now. Masses used to move along faster before we started singing all the responses.
Not so much the speed of the mass, but the sing-song arrangements, splitting phrases to make the song/performance longer, and the use of a refrain which breaks up the prescribed prayer.
I myself would omit the Prayers of the Faithful, it feels tedious and drags out too long sometimes,
That’s because the rubrics are being ignored. There are a specified small number (I believe it varies from 4 to 5), with each for a specified topic.

More often, they seem to be an ad hoc list of what someone decided would be a good idea that week.
Didn’t Augustine say he who sings prays twice…?
No, that was St. Ambrose (who obviously never heard me sing 🤣)
For this comment alone i will also say all Masses should be sung. Inclusing the prayers, readings, preface, Roman Canon and Lord’s Prayer.
Swell. That sound you year is the cheering of guitarists and bongo drummers across the country . . . Until you solve the liturgical terrorism that is all too common by “music ministry”, don’t even think of allowing Mass to be Sung! Now, chanting is another story . . .
Yeah I feel that the OF could’ve been more solid if the Church had simply translated the EF into the vernacular and consolidated some of the prayers but not the Eucharistic prayers
And it should have been introduced piecemeal.

Eastern Catholics started moving to English more than a decade before the council, and generally didn’t have these problems (in fairness, vernacular was the norm, and this was about the vernacular of the grandchildren immigrants as opposed to the grandparents’ vernacular). Initially one prayer or piece in both English and the old language, which varied by week, and gradually more until practically the whole thing was English.

Without regard to validity/improvement/whatever, the near-simultaneous introduction of English and a new Mass was a bad tactical move.

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So are you proposing Aramaic (as still used by Maronites and at least some other syriac liturgy), or just Greek? 🤣😜🤔

Now, all in all, there is really not much point in making any changes at the moment, because there is no reason to believe that the new rubrics would be observed any better than the current ones.

As a parlor game, how many of the above suggestions actually come to “do in compliance with current rubrics”? (no, I didn’t count)

hawk
 
I would add “for the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and the whole world” said by the people with them bowing from their kneeling positions after the host is raised at consecration and at the raising of the chalice another bow before the priest with the people saying “Eternal Father, I offer you the Body and Blood, soul and divinity of your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, for the attonement of our sins and those of the whole world”

You did say anything.
 
It would seem unlikely that he would have used Hebrew rather than his native Aramaic.

In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever hear a suggestion that such occurred before . . .

Well, the beauty, at least. A priest could probably have chanted almost anything at certain parts, including his grocery list, without being noticed . . .

hawk
 
For the scripture and Seder, sure. But for instructions to the disciples?

St. Tomatus of the sauce, pray for us.
St. Carottia, guard our vision.
St. Brussel of the Sprouts . . . nah, that one’s not possible . . .
St. Arti, choke our demons
 
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