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BobCatholic
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RIght, God wants me dependent on him and him alone. He does not want us to be independent and able to live without him. He WANTS me “sheltered” and incompetent.Hi, Bob!
…we keep missing each other…
Let’s see… a sheltered child never outgrows incompetence… that child is forever dependent upon the parent/s or guardian/s; it would take huge fortitude and immense determination for such a child to travel beyond the orbit on which he/she has been embedded.
“Without me you can do nothing” is clear. Without God I am incompetent.
The answer is “no” to a steady job, seriously, how can I trust him?…oh yeah, then there’s that pesky Faith–if God were provide Believers all of their temporal needs, would there be a limit to what “Believers” would demand as “Providence” and would there be any real Faith in God?
I’m more like "If you want friendship with me, how about actually being a friend? Stop asking me to pay to be your friend. "God’s dealing with us is quite similar–He cannot reward/benefit Believers on grounds of Faith, devotion, fervor, zealousness or reciprocity… to do so would render the Believers’ Faith, fidelity, loyalty, and Fellowship void. It is the argument presented to God by Satan in the book of Job: ‘…sure, give the man everything he wants and he’ll swear he Loves/Serves YOU!’ (paraphrased)
So when Jesus said he came to serve, not to rule, that means what?Jesus would offer would cause Him, the Divine, to Serve (exist below) the creature.
If God understands, that is a big IF, then why does he never want me to have a steady job? Hello, I have a wife and kid to take care of, and my kid is special needs. Doesn’t he understand? Doesn’t he understand I wanted to have 10 kids but of course, that requires steady employment.God understands that we are weak and needy–He Provides for us either through resources or strength.
The cross is mandatory. How can I give up something mandatory?Give up your struggle against God.
Are you saying God is illogical? No. He is superlogical. Supernatural level logic.Renounce your acquired doubt and logic. Allow the Holy Spirit to Enlighten you and Guide you to the Fullness of God–start by re-reading our exchange… you would find, as I have, that you have a deeper intimacy with God than you give credence to;
I don’t have any intimacy with God, I have zero personal relationship with him. I only have a corporate relationship.
I can’t give everything to God.but you must accept that (as the old Borgs would say) “resistance is futile;” give everything to God–
I am layman, not a monk.
I am a husband, not a celibate. I cannot take a vow of celibacy.
I am a father, not a man without responsibilities. The only father without responsibilities is God. I cannot take a vow of poverty.
This is why I think that I am a second class citizen in the kingdom of God (if I’m lucky to even get that high of a rank). I’m not a monk. I’m a married lay man who has a kid.