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PRIDE is one of the seven deadly sins. It is in fact so “deadly,” that Jesus once said to St. Faustina: “The torrents of grace inundate humble souls. The proud remain always in poverty (from grace,presumably) and misery, because My grace TURNS AWAY from them to humble souls.”

Every time I hear someone complaining that his prayers remain unanswered or he feels that God is far away from Him, I always remember this statement of Jesus, although I know one’s pride is not always the reason why God chooses not to be responsive to prayers.

Pride can take many subtle forms that oftentimes we don’t know exactly WHEN we are being prideful. Written below are the various manifestations of pride cited by a therapist, author, and marriage counselor:
  1. Atheism or rejection of God
  2. Complaining of or passing judgment on
    God
  3. Fault-finding
  4. Insecurity
  5. The need to be right
  6. Inability or great difficulty to say sorry
  7. More invested in being heard than in
    hearing
  8. Frequent anger
  9. Irritability and impatience
  10. Being argumentative
  11. Lack of submissive attitude
  12. Receiving correction but not changing
  13. Being stubborn
  14. Needing to proclaim your titles and
    degrees
  15. Comparisons and need for competition
  16. Desperation for attention
  17. Perfectionism
  18. Talking too much about yourself
  19. Being devastated or angered by
    criticism
  20. Discriminating others
  21. Defensiveness
  22. Superficiality
  23. Being too consumed with what others
    think
  24. A lack of gratitude in general
  25. Neglecting others
QUESTION: Which among these have you already overcome, or still struggling with?
Please cite a circumstance in which you manifested this attitude. Feel free to add to the list, or if you think that an item in the list needs explanation, please share your ideas. Also, a bible verse or quotation on pride or humility will be greatly appreciated.

Exposing one’s weakness is a sign of humility. According to James 5:16:

“Confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed.”
 
8 and 9 are of Wrath not of Pride.
And quite a few others are not directly of pride and may even hold little to no connection with pride.
 
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The primary is lying and murdering, which is not on the list, or at least I did not recognize it, and is given in the Gospel of John 8:
44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.
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A very subjective list to say the least. Someone arguing for a point in opposition to another’s could be considered guilty of several or more of your examples.

20, discrimination others is a real problem. Jesus told his disciples, “whenever you come to a place that will not receive you, shake the dust from your sandals as you leave. I assure you Sodom and Gomorrah will fare better on judgment day than that place.” Sound discriminatory to me. In addition to a number of others.​

Stubborn? I have argued against Roe v. Wade for over 40 years. Is that being stubborn and full of pride in my own mind???
 
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sorry about that large font I have no idea how that occurred. Not really techno savvy. And I don’t know how to get rid of it.
 
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This is a Catholic forum. The revelations given to St. Faustina as recorded in her diary have not only received the “nihil obstat” from Catholic Church authorities; by canonizing her and establishing the universal celebration of Divine Mercy Sunday, the Church has shown its positive approval and encouragement for the faithful to accept these revelations as largely authentic and to pay heed to their content. This was especially emphasized by the visits of Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI to the tomb of St. Faustina in Poland.
 
I am not afraid to answer. I have always had a fair amount of pride in my courage level, also my willingness to admit pride as a fault.
 
These manifestations of pride you mentioned were given by a senior therapist and marriage counselor. I know each item needs an explanation but the space is limited. Please visit this site:

bibleresources.org

What the Bible Says about Pride - Bible Resources

Learn what the Bible says about pride in this lesson. James 4:6 declares "God is opposed to the proud, but gives grace to the humble "
bibleresources.org bibleresources.org
 
You are free to believe these alleged private revelations concerning Jesus communicating with Faustina
 
I don’t think you’re being stubborn that way. You’re just being very determined to stand up for what you think is right, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
 
Honestly I struggle with finding a balance, I follow a cycle of being too confident and prideful, then regretting it and becoming overly anxious/self-deprecating, only to gain confidence and go back to the beginning. Over and over again.
 
Please continue to pray to God to help you overcome this weakness. Thank you for sharing. I will pray for you, Buck.
 
I can think for myself to some extent.

The moral theology rapping of the item list isn’t correct by any means. And the key underlying Catholicism would go along other lines in proposing solutions.

I will say there is no short amount of misguided therapists out there, remember the proverb of the blind guiding the blind. A competent therapist with solid moral formation is a rare combination.
 
Insecurity as pride? Oh, no, my friend! I look upon my insecurity with my relationship with God as an impediment rather than a prideful quality, which I would gladly have resolved.
 
And no one forces you to think otherwise, my friend. Good luck on your spiritual journey. We do experience bumps here and there; what’s important is how we keep the faith.
 
c.s. lewis (or was it chesterton?) said pride is the worst of the deadly sins.

that is good enough authority for me…
 
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Alfred Ells, a senior therapist and marriage counselor, says that insecurity is a sign of pride. According to him, insecurity is the root of many unhealthy and ungodly behaviors.

It provokes us to want the lavish praise and attention of others too much. Much of pride is motivated out of one’s unmet need for self-worth. Finding one’s identity and security in Christ is a must to avoid pride.
 
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