Iglesia ni Cristo members.. lets help them

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janryboy :

by the way, Felix Manalo was not a Millionaire before…

but his son Erdy…just look at those luxurios cars and mansions…great isnt it?

What’s wrong with that??

If One of the apostle is still alive…what would you do?? …
Do you allow him to walk without a bodyguard… what if somebody will harm him…who will suffer?

All properties he has are owned by the Church. Same as with the Minister in every locale… they have cars … to go everywhere …to preach. But when they are transferred to other place… everything will be surrender or will be taken by the next minister assigned to take over his place.
 
RobedWithLight:

“Why is it that five years later, in 1919, did Manalo come to the U.S. to study with Protestants? Why would he study with ‘apostates’? Why would a prophet need to study religion at all, after having talked with God?”
Does this not strike you as interesting? NO

If you believe that he is the true messenger … would you question his decision? Who knows maybe God wants him to go there and witness everything they do.
If he’s not the true messenger of God…All his works are in vain. He will not succeed.

Look the INC now.
 
janryboy :

but his son Erdy…just look at those luxurios cars and mansions…great isnt it? Yeah … that was great…

That was part of God’s blessing… even the members now has that kind of blessings from God…why don’t you come and join us.
 
newera said:
RobedWithLight:

“Why is it that five years later, in 1919, did Manalo come to the U.S. to study with Protestants? Why would he study with ‘apostates’? Why would a prophet need to study religion at all, after having talked with God?”
Does this not strike you as interesting? NO

If you believe that he is the true messenger … would you question his decision? Who knows maybe God wants him to go there and witness everything they do.
If he’s not the true messenger of God…All his works are in vain. He will not succeed.

Look the INC now.
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Why not new era?

I thought all along that God’s revelation was supposed to be complete and sufficient in itself, Manalo supposedly being a prophet and the supposed “angel” of Revelation from the far east. Again why would an “angel” or a “prophet” who supposedly talked to almighty God Himself have to undergo studies in religion with Protestants, or just “observe” the doings of Protestants in the US?

Did Moses or Elijah (true prophets of God) go to another country to “study” religion there after having communed with God Himself?

And mind you the enormous size of the INCs cathedrals and their media network(Eagle Broadcasting) doesn’t constitute proof of its truth. If that were true, Islam can likewise claim that it is the true religion because their mosques and madrasahs are everywhere, and their membership multinational and multi-ethnic, spread out across all continents, unlike the INC which is almost completely confined to Filipinos and a tiny smattering of foreigners who have married into INC families.
 
Well new era, how is it then?

Does a “prophet” and an “angel” of Revelation have to undergo religious training with those “misguided” Protestants, whose teachings he had abandoned years before?

In addition, is it true your “prophet” changed his religious affiliation four or five times before founding your denomination? From Catholic, I believe he became in succession, a Methodist, a Presbyterian, an Adventist and then to some other Protestant denomination, before founding your denomination in 1914?
 
Yes these Protestants are said to be the harlot daughters of the Whore of Babylon. They often quoted during worship services from a Protestant magazine(Moody something) about how there are thousands of Protestant churchs. Of course I think he stole all of this from the Seventh Day Adventists. I read that he didn’t come up with the “Last Messenger” doctorine till there was a near split in the Church.
 
newera said:
janryboy :

but his son Erdy…just look at those luxurios cars and mansions…great isnt it? Yeah … that was great…

That was part of God’s blessing… even the members now has that kind of blessings from God…why don’t you come and join us.
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I am aware that the worship services would often quote a passage about how your wife will be a fruitful vine and your children will be like olive branches(I can’t remember the passage), but from what you are saying it sounds almost like the “health and wealth” belief of modern churchs. I don’t remember them saying much of becoming rich, I thought most of the blessings were a wonderful family and such. I certainly knew many INC members that wern’t rich financially, but certainly were rich with wonderful families. Of course I don’t see why anyone could join because they thought they would get lots of money.
 
I did not saw the word Christ is God in the verse that you read. That is only your opinion…not in the bible.

Then just answer the following questions:
  1. Why did Jesus claim the divine Name for himself?
  2. Why did he accept divine worship?
These are not my opinion. These are in the Bible.
 
newera said:
janryboy :

by the way, Felix Manalo was not a Millionaire before…

but his son Erdy…just look at those luxurios cars and mansions…great isnt it?

What’s wrong with that??

If One of the apostle is still alive…what would you do?? …
Do you allow him to walk without a bodyguard… what if somebody will harm him…who will suffer?

All properties he has are owned by the Church. Same as with the Minister in every locale… they have cars … to go everywhere …to preach. But when they are transferred to other place… everything will be surrender or will be taken by the next minister assigned to take over his place.
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newera…

im waiting for the answer…about that compass and inverted triangle in your emblem…is it related to the common symblos of freemasonry? oh common…i dont think you need to ignore this…
 
RobedWithLight:

Does a “prophet” and an “angel” of Revelation have to undergo religious training with those “misguided” Protestants, whose teachings he had abandoned years before?

In addition, is it true your “prophet” changed his religious affiliation four or five times before founding your denomination? From Catholic, I believe he became in succession, a Methodist, a Presbyterian, an Adventist and then to some other Protestant denomination, before founding your denomination in 1914?

What’s wrong with that? … If God select you to be his Church leader.

Apostle Paul was the number 1 enemy of the church before he became apostle… Why God choose him?
 
porthos11:

Then just answer the following questions:
  1. Why did Jesus claim the divine Name for himself?
  2. Why did he accept divine worship?
Now you have too many questions… You can write it down or watch our programs “The Message” channel.26 KTSF/at 1:00
pm or goto nearest chapel of the Church (Iglesia Ni Cristo) ask the minister…you can ask him everything you want. You will find the answer right away.
 
Iglesia Ni Cristo believes that to be save on judgement day you must be a member of it. This is the only true Church that Christ gave his Blood (Acts20:28). I 'm telling you this for you also to listen and observe its teaching… if you have questions… why try ask the minister and talk personally …rather than just keeping it to your self (pretending you know everything)… All your question were already answered by the Church many times… again and again. Remember…God choose people to be added to the true church daily such as should be save.
 
newera said:
All your question were already answered by the Church many times… again and again. Remember…God choose people to be added to the true church daily such as should be save.
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INC never answered on how they got the** canonicity of the Bible**. How about you, do you know how the INCs arrived to the conclusion which books of the bible are inspired or not? Or you’ll just forward me again, just like you told the other Catholics, to your ministers?
 
Originally Posted by Pythagoras

INC never answered on how they got the canonicity of the Bible. How about you, do you know how the INCs arrived to the conclusion which books of the bible are inspired or not?

because you did not attended our bible study… that’s why you said …“INC never answered on how they got the canonicity of the bible.”

I know when to say that the books are inspired or not.

If your Church use the inspired books, why are they so many contradictions???
 
Newera, this has been asked without any convincing reply from INC members, and I’ll ask it here again: Did Manalo called out to the four angels? How?
 
newera said:
porthos11:
  1. Why did Jesus claim the divine Name for himself?
  2. Why did he accept divine worship?
Now you have too many questions… You can write it down or watch our programs “The Message” channel.26 KTSF/at 1:00
pm or goto nearest chapel of the Church (Iglesia Ni Cristo) ask the minister…you can ask him everything you want. You will find the answer right away.
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Cop-out, newera. That’s only two questions.

I’m asking you, not your minister or your magazine. You claim the Bible as your authority, not your minister, so we play it your way. Otherwise, out goes your “bible alone” stance.

Answer the questions please.
 
hello all,i used to have an inc bf for 5 years.almost on adaily basis we fought about differences in our faith.i’ve been with him to several inc chapels/churches.we parted after he got incarcerated for duping people.i’ve met active,ex,inactive inc members.the active ones were all ill tempered;the inactive i.e. disillusioned about their faith were kindhearted,the ex members have more peace in their lives.i could write books about my experiences( first and second hand) with inc members.theyre all vindictives! you cannot win against them in a debate.if you do,they may find ways to harm you.they just dont have love in their hearts for those people who do not share their faith.they only have hatred and very deep!!! their brains are being feed with evil thoughts even at the very young age.so what comes out from their mouth are just negative stuff, as well.my acquaintance’s brother was brutally murdered by inc members.it was just a petty quarrel.remember the sta ana massacre, where the inc pastor? and his members burned to death five catholic youths,after being defeated from a basketball game.these are just prime examples of what they can do to you,if they think you offended them.i have lots of true stories to tell,but dont have time right now to divulge them.before i terminate this post,i have a question for any inc member on this board.why is it that the very best friends of the manalos,deceased and living have not converted to your faith e.g. the marcoses,estradas,lacsons,asistios et al.i would like to hear your answer.also,if united nation members discuss about christianity,what comes first to their mind.do you think it is inc???nope,they dont even know its existence!
 
newera said:
RobedWithLight:
What’s wrong with that? … If God select you to be his Church leader.

Apostle Paul was the number 1 enemy of the church before he became apostle… Why God choose him?
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New era, that is exactly what is so intriguing about Felix Manalo: his claim of being God’s true messenger and his equally interesting claim of being the “angel” of Revelation 7:2 which he made a year after studying at the Pacific School of Religion in California and six years after founding and registering his religious society. Did God really “select” him in the same way he selected Paul? Or was Ka Felix even selected at all?
 
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