Iglesia ni Cristo members.. lets help them

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I’ve seen your programs but they failed to convince me. I believe the Bible. You give more cop-out. Answer the questions please.

Why don’t you defend your faith?

These are two very simple questions any self-respecting INC member should be able to answer. Maybe then you can convince me to join your church.

Otherwise, I will simply conclude you do not have the answers.
porthos11:
"I’ve seen your programs but they failed to convince me. I believe the Bible. "

Maybe because you don’t have open minds… We answered it direct to the Bible… If you believe the Bible… you should follow what it say… For this, I could say… you really not truely believe in the Bible.
 
i would rather watch ang dating daan than any inc programs.just want to reiterate that numerous times,i attended worship service with my ex.the pastors were just spewing all negative things about catholicism.you’re just the typical inc member i.e. brainwashed,arrogant etc.you guys professed to be christians,but only in words. a priest from edsa shrine told us that one time he was stranded in the hinterlands of laguna in the middle of the night .he found a house,but the inc member told him that he cannot enter his house ,as he was catholic,more because he was a priest.tell me is that the way shoud a christian behaves.when i was in college my inc classmate told us that we cannot stay overnight in their house,as it was against inc teaching,but then,we,his classmates welcomed him to stay overnight for research studies in our respective homes.that’s the essence of true christianity,no bias against anybody,regardless of creed,race,gender etc.if i have to choose between inc memebers and muslims for friendship,i will choose the latter.i’m so fortunate that the muslim people that i have come to meet were charitable than you people.lastly,the estradas,marcoses know that inc is a just another business or cult.otherwise,when the late pres know he has to face death,he shoud have converted to inc.whre i live,nobody knows that inc exist in this planet.the only people that will probably know are filipinos.i know youll get mad at me,as all inc members do,because you dont have jesus in your heart.you dont know what peace is and how to forgive enemies.you celebrate manalo’s bday,but not jesus,even if you think its not in december.you should give him a very special day,like you do with fym.
Wow, ladygenesis is a galible (mapaniwalain)… she thinks that ALL INC do the same way.

Did our Lord told us to celebrate his birthday? Did he commanded to do so?.. the bible says don’t add or subtract what is written in the bible… I don’t know if you read this verse…maybe you heard but don’t understand what the meaning of this …

“whre i live,nobody knows that inc exist in this planet.the only people that will probably know are filipinos” maybe in your Area… just wait some other time you will see … the power of God and mercy will go in your way… Our God truly have mercy in you…coz right now he used me to informed or reminding you about the church.

Our Lord Jesus christ…when he was here on earth…nobody likes him… same way with this church, they don’t like it…mostly members are filipinos… but this is God works and nobody can stop it …
 
porthos11:
"I’ve seen your programs but they failed to convince me. I believe the Bible. "

Maybe because you don’t have open minds… We answered it direct to the Bible… If you believe the Bible… you should follow what it say… For this, I could say… you really not truely believe in the Bible.
And still you don’t answer my questions:
  1. Why did Jesus claim the divine Name for himself?
  2. Why did he accept divine worship?
All of these are in the Bible, yet you don’t believe them.

You just don’t have the answers, do you? Come on, newera. Be a staunch INC apologist! Defend your faith!

As I’ve said, I’ve seen your programs, and they never even addressed these issues. Perhaps you can do a better job than your TV hosts. Answer the questions now!
 
Is there any biblical verses that contradict why bro. Felix did not baptized himself? Who baptized John?
I take that reply to be a no to my question.

But then, isn’t it for a fact that in order to be saved according to the INC, one has to be baptized first in the INC? Is Ka Felix “exempted” from this requirement?

Jesus never claimed exemption by actually having Himself baptized by St. John despite being the Christ, the anointed One of God! John himself felt unworthy to baptize the Son of God and yet Jesus insisted to be baptized in the river.
 
Hello everybody! Are there Filipinos here? I’m new here. Kamusta na mga kabayan? Just want to let you know that there is a new Catholic Apologetics Magazine that’s been circulating in the Philippines refuting INC. The writer, a certain Fr. Paul Kaiparambadan. The problem is. . .
Well, I’m filipino. Welcome aboard.
 
new era,fyi,i got hold of the bible that you’re using in your church courtesy of my ex bf.we compared verses to verses with my bible courtesy of brother edddie villanueva,when i was still a jil member.my ex became severely agitated when i found out that many verses that support the divinity of christ were deleted from your church bible.he was in denial.just want to reiterate that inc members do not accept defeat in debate,instead they will fabricate stories that they win.having been around so many inc members,i can tell right away who are the inc members in a religious or political forums.they standout! they all hurl invective words curse you to death.i believe this is the reason why pdi religious forum was closed,because of the threats,harrasment made by inc members to people who do not share their faith.have you heard about that incident in the 80’s when inc inmates at nbp in muntinlupa hurled a molotov bomb towards catholic inmates after e heated debate,but the bomb hit the ceiling and bounced back at the inc members,who were unfortunately got hurt by their own bomb.you guys just cannot accept defeat.you enjoy your exclusivity,you only help/pray for fellow inc members.we catholic pray/help everybody regardless of their race,creed etc.i can still remmber vividly when in first enter inc church at age 16,i was scared to death,i had goose bumps.when i asked the two children probably age 6-7 y/o,why there was no icon at all.these girls started shouting at me and what comes out from their mouth were all negative,that you one should not expect from children.my inc classmate left me there,as i wasnt allowed to enter his house because i wasnt an inc.talking about christianity in the works.
 
You said Catholic did not stop him?? hmmm…funny…

During Ka Felix times… debaters are all protestant and catholic defender… They taught they can stopped bro. Felix of teaching the true gosphel of God. Were are they now??

Hiding !!!
Catholics and Protestants have likewise debated each other over many controversial issues but never have we heard a Protestant or Catholic apologist go into hiding after debating with each other. But in an Iglesia-Catholic debate or an Iglesia-Protestant debate, I honestly can’t say the same, Perhaps we can only surmise that the INC has a curious way of persuasively “forcing” a person to go into hiding? :rolleyes:
 
Yes I’m pure Filipino… Tandaan ang maghahatid sa atin patungon sa kaligtasan ay Filipino (Last Messenger) and not american.
Hello there New Era. Kabayan kamusta? Not American? Filipino? Sure, thanks for reminding me. How could I forget about my sense of patriotism? Let’s see, who are the brilliant Filipino priests and theologians that shepherds our country:
  1. Cardinal Sin (lead EDSA 1 & 2 to which we owe our freedom)
  2. Cardinal Rosales (pro-poor cardinal)
  3. Cardinal Vidal (prevents artificial birth preventions)
  4. Fr. Catalino Arevalo S.J. Expert theologian of the Jesuits
  5. Bishop Antonio Tagle consultant for the Doctrine and Faith in the Philippines)
  6. Fr. Paul Kaiparambadan (the first one to publish Catholic Apologetics magazine in the Philippines.)
That’s enough for now. There are more, actually, surprise nalang yung iba sa next editions ng KNOW THE TRUTH MAGAZINE. I know that INC is an avid fan of that magazine since they really like to feature Fr. Paul in Ang Tamang Daan. How could he ever repay you?

By the way, I didn’t know that Ka Felix was a great fan of the Catholic Church? Quoting rare books of Filipino Jesuit Apologist Fr. Juan Trinidad S.J.? Honestly, those are treasures, I don’t know if Ateneo still has a copy of those books. However, great as they are, THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE OFFICIAL TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! Why don’t you try to go to the Vatican Website, lots of official pronouncements there.

Respectfully yours,
Pinoy Katoliko
 
porthos11:
"I’ve seen your programs but they failed to convince me. I believe the Bible. "

Maybe because you don’t have open minds… We answered it direct to the Bible… If you believe the Bible… you should follow what it say… For this, I could say… you really not truely believe in the Bible.
I’m still waiting for your response.
Prove to me what is INC’s basis for knowing which books are inspired and those from not inspired. Tell me also WHEN did INC determined the canonicity of the Bible.
 
Answer for no.1
Not all workers in the construction site are INC Members.

Answer for no. 2
If I explain it to you… I know you will not listen or maybe don’t care about my answer… all you care is what the people say

Or if I explain it to you… what’s next?
it is better that you have questions in your mind about the Church… so you may end up searching or watching our tv programs.
well…if thats your answer…then your a Mason…agnostic! sorry to tell you…

you do not accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your God…your Savior, who redeem you from the bondage of original sin! Rather Manalo is much reverred…

never will I be an INC…if I had to sacrifice my life…then so be it!
 
You can watch How the Iglesia Ni Cristo answers topics discussed by Fr. Paul Kaiparambadan.

Ang Tamang Daan, CHN.26 -KTSF at 8:00AM-9:00AM
Umm… No thanks… Been there, done that… Back when I was sort of lost in faith, I tried watching Net 25. An INC friend adviced me to watch the show to understand your faith. To be honest i didn’t like the show. I came close to hating it. I’ve seen many INC shows and for me, that is the most self-righteous non-charitable inaccurate apologetics show I’ve watched ever. I was lost then but not lost enough to be blind to the unprofessional insults that are very visible in that show. In fact it took away all the interest I had with your religion.

Despite that, I ironically owe so much to that show. Hearing the accusations against the Catholic Church and other protestant churches made me look for answers. The search for those answers has taken me back to the Catholic faith.

Sorry. But if I’m to respectfully understand your faith better, I’d better not watch that show… Kapiiish?👍
 
Umm… No thanks… Been there, done that… Back when I was sort of lost in faith, I tried watching Net 25. An INC friend adviced me to watch the show to understand your faith. To be honest i didn’t like the show. I came close to hating it. I’ve seen many INC shows and for me, that is the most self-righteous non-charitable inaccurate apologetics show I’ve watched ever. I was lost then but not lost enough to be blind to the unprofessional insults that are very visible in that show. In fact it took away all the interest I had with your religion.

Despite that, I ironically owe so much to that show. Hearing the accusations against the Catholic Church and other protestant churches made me look for answers. The search for those answers has taken me back to the Catholic faith.

Sorry. But if I’m to respectfully understand your faith better, I’d better not watch that show… Kapiiish?👍
Great ssejllenrad!!!

May God bless you in all your endeavors!
 
Great ssejllenrad!!!

May God bless you in all your endeavors!
were not accusing the Catholic Church ( this means your not really watching our shows )…

Were can you find the word Trinity in the Bible?? is it biblical?? are we accusing the church … were just asking
 
Umm… No thanks… Been there, done that… Back when I was sort of lost in faith, I tried watching Net 25. An INC friend adviced me to watch the show to understand your faith. To be honest i didn’t like the show. I came close to hating it. I’ve seen many INC shows and for me, that is the most self-righteous non-charitable inaccurate apologetics show I’ve watched ever. I was lost then but not lost enough to be blind to the unprofessional insults that are very visible in that show. In fact it took away all the interest I had with your religion.

Despite that, I ironically owe so much to that show. Hearing the accusations against the Catholic Church and other protestant churches made me look for answers. The search for those answers has taken me back to the Catholic faith.

Sorry. But if I’m to respectfully understand your faith better, I’d better not watch that show… Kapiiish?👍
I respect you … hope God will lighten your way. One more question though, Is a rosary found in the Bible? is it biblical? if not then it is a man teaching?
 
well…if thats your answer…then your a Mason…agnostic! sorry to tell you…

you do not accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your God…your Savior, who redeem you from the bondage of original sin! Rather Manalo is much reverred…

never will I be an INC…if I had to sacrifice my life…then so be it!
Yeah, I will not accept the Lord Jesus Christ as my God… He is not a God ( John 8:40 - I am a man that telling you the truth) … and John17:1-3 the God of Jesus Christ is the Father
“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. …” Christ sent by God to save people from God’s anger, because people got sin before God and God doesn’t listen to people’s prayer, that’s why he sent Jesus Christ.
 
Umm… No thanks… Been there, done that… Back when I was sort of lost in faith, I tried watching Net 25. An INC friend adviced me to watch the show to understand your faith. To be honest i didn’t like the show. I came close to hating it. I’ve seen many INC shows and for me, that is the most self-righteous non-charitable inaccurate apologetics show I’ve watched ever. I was lost then but not lost enough to be blind to the unprofessional insults that are very visible in that show. In fact it took away all the interest I had with your religion.

Despite that, I ironically owe so much to that show. Hearing the accusations against the Catholic Church and other protestant churches made me look for answers. The search for those answers has taken me back to the Catholic faith.

Sorry. But if I’m to respectfully understand your faith better, I’d better not watch that show… Kapiiish?👍
Ooopss…don’t say that… coz most people I’ve talked after few years… converted to Iglesia Ni Cristo
 
Hello there New Era. Kabayan kamusta? Not American? Filipino? Sure, thanks for reminding me. How could I forget about my sense of patriotism? Let’s see, who are the brilliant Filipino priests and theologians that shepherds our country:
  1. Cardinal Sin (lead EDSA 1 & 2 to which we owe our freedom)
  2. Cardinal Rosales (pro-poor cardinal)
  3. Cardinal Vidal (prevents artificial birth preventions)
  4. Fr. Catalino Arevalo S.J. Expert theologian of the Jesuits
  5. Bishop Antonio Tagle consultant for the Doctrine and Faith in the Philippines)
  6. Fr. Paul Kaiparambadan (the first one to publish Catholic Apologetics magazine in the Philippines.)
That’s enough for now. There are more, actually, surprise nalang yung iba sa next editions ng KNOW THE TRUTH MAGAZINE. I know that INC is an avid fan of that magazine since they really like to feature Fr. Paul in Ang Tamang Daan. How could he ever repay you?

By the way, I didn’t know that Ka Felix was a great fan of the Catholic Church? Quoting rare books of Filipino Jesuit Apologist Fr. Juan Trinidad S.J.? Honestly, those are treasures, I don’t know if Ateneo still has a copy of those books. However, great as they are, THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE OFFICIAL TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! Why don’t you try to go to the Vatican Website, lots of official pronouncements there.

Respectfully yours,
Pinoy Katoliko
For you those are brilliant Filipinos… but can they lead you to salvation? their teachings are not found in the Bible? they lead so funishment on the day of judgement.
 
Catholics and Protestants have likewise debated each other over many controversial issues but never have we heard a Protestant or Catholic apologist go into hiding after debating with each other. But in an Iglesia-Catholic debate or an Iglesia-Protestant debate, I honestly can’t say the same, Perhaps we can only surmise that the INC has a curious way of persuasively “forcing” a person to go into hiding? :rolleyes:
bwahahaha … the truth is that they cannot defend their faith if it is purely bases on the Bible.
 
bwahahaha … the truth is that they cannot defend their faith if it is purely bases on the Bible.
Actually, I have yet to hear you categorically answer my questions about Manalo’s apparent “exemption” from your sect’s baptismal requirement for salvation, and Milliardo’s question to you regarding Ka Felix’s claims of being the fifth angel of Revelation. Now, if that is all that you can say to me, then frankly, I’m quite disappointed. I suggest you ask one of your ministers to help you.
 
bwahahaha … the truth is that they cannot defend their faith if it is purely bases on the Bible.
Secondly, to say that they cannot defend their faith on a purely biblical basis is a subjective statement that requires much more analysis than a mere one or two sentences.
 
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