The determination of the best means of resolving immigration problems is not a matter of faith or morals. Lumen Gentium simply does not apply to this topic; this is a political issue. Beyond this, Mahony is not my bishop so his words do not apply to me. My bishop has made no such comment.
No one here is advocating for the mistreatment of illegal aliens. Requiring them to go through a process to legally become a citizen is not mistreatment. I don’t know where people got it into their heads that it is an absolute moral right of anyone to break the law and then become entitled to whatever they want after that.
Eric, this country was built on LEGAL immigration not ILLEGAL immigration. I myself am an immigrant. My father went through all the proper procedures, and adhered to the rules required for us to be granted permission to enter this country. No one on this thread is against immigration. It’s the ILLEGAL kind we oppose. READ POST # 10 for a better insight as to why illegal immigration is a serious problem.
rev Kevin, I LOVE YOUR POST! Either Eric hasn’t seen it, or he simply chooses to ignore it. No one, absolutely no one has a leg to stand on after reading what you wrote if they oppose our postion.
Legal immigration
Could you define 2nd class citizen?
It was Africans who plundered Africans and sold them to Americans. Most Americans slave owners treat their slaves well (as prescribed in the Bible). Many, many Americans were against the slave trade and finally shut it down.
No, it was Iraqi policy against its own citizens that caused this immigration.
America doesn’t believe in sitting back and letting countries destroy their own people, throw acid in women’s faces, keep women from going to school, stone women for being raped, or who think it’s okay to hijack jets to kill innocent civilians.
America gives more food and funding to third world countries than any other country in the world.
Unfortunately, Cardinal Mahony has spoken of a mandate from God. My assumption is that a mandate from God does concern Catholic faith and respecting the mandate from God does concern Catholic morals. So, based on what Cardinal Mahony says, I don’t see how this does not involve faith and morals.
I guess you missed my point.
Does America believe in rendition, kidnapping and torturing innocent people in foreign countries?
Ya know according to history the first slave owner in America was a black man. At least it was according to the history channel.
3 thumbs upDid Christopher Columbus and other white Europeans immigrate legally and ask the American Indian for permission to live in the USA, or did they simply go around murdering and slaughtering any American Indian who objected to their ruthless explotation of American land?
“Rendition” or “Extraordinary Rendition?” Big difference between the 2.
I can imagine centuries ago Indians were complaining about illegal settlers taking their jobs, their land, their food supply. I can imagine that the Indians had very little say, when it came to setting the law of the land.
Quite possible people found ways to justify these actions, in a similar way Britain and America found dubious ways to justify bombing Iraq, who is more wrong?
It was faulty intellagence information about WMD’s. Britain and America along with other countries all believed there was WMD’s and they acted on that information. It turned out to be fauly information.
HMM lets see, where did these illegal settlers come from?
Be very careful in your discernment……remember, Satan often appears as an angel of light.
The fact that he has said this doesn’t make it true. In fact, if there was some mandate from God wouldn’t you expect to hear of it from the pope? The Magisterium? Other bishops? Cardinal Mahony may believe what he said but *it is solely his opinion *and no one has any obligation to accept it.
I am not interested in your interpretation of scripture. Show me a Church document stating that the US must have open borders and give amnesty to illegals. I’ll give you some examples of what I have in mind: