I'm an active homosexual, am I destined to hell?

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Teen4Christ said:
I do.
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No, you don’t. Christ and his apostles taught that engaging in homosexual acts was immoral. You say that you don’t believe engaging in homosexual acts is immoral and that you have engaged in such acts. Therefore, you are not following the teachings of Christ and his apostles.
 
AgnosTheist said:
still a false analogy. cleptomania is a habit, an obsession. gayness is not.
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Make up your mind. A person attracted to the opposite sex can either control his actions, or he can’t. Even if same-sex attraction is in the genes, it doesn’t excuse him for the reasons given. But if you are going to say say it’s not a habit or an obession, that is, he is in full command of his behevior, then you can’t appeal to the he-can’t-help-it-it’s-his-genes argument. You can’t have it both ways. And we are back to only thing that matters: are homosexual acts wrong in and of themselves? He asked for the Church’s answer, got an emphatic “Yes they are!”, didn’t like that answer, and now we are on this rabbit trail trying to logic-chop away the plain truth.
 
AgnosTheist said:
Teen4Christ,

How do you reconcile your sexual orientation and activities with that of your roman catholic faith? Clearly, according to church laws, you are gonna burn in hell. But what do you believe? What are you gonna do now? And why do you call yourself ‘teen for christ’? How exactly are you ‘for christ’?
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I’m not catholic anymore, i’m non-denominational. Yes, I believe God loves all and wouldn’t send someone to hell for their orientation, I don’t know. It’s a good username, I believe in Christ, I worship christ, I’ve read his word many times.
 
Teen4Christ said:
I’m not catholic anymore, i’m non-denominational. Yes, I believe God loves all and wouldn’t send someone to hell for their orientation, I don’t know. It’s a good username, I believe in Christ, I worship christ, I’ve read his word many times.
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So… you believe in Christ, you worship Christ, you’ve read His word many times… but you have no intention of following His teachings.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

If you truly love and worship Christ, why do you refuse to follow His teachings?
 
Teen4Christ said:
I’m not catholic anymore, i’m non-denominational. Yes, I believe God loves all and wouldn’t send someone to hell for their orientation, I don’t know. It’s a good username, I believe in Christ, I worship christ, I’ve read his word many times.
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Your right your orientation is not a sin, YOUR ANAL/ORAL SEX ACTS WITH MALES IS, that will get you sent some place toasty if you do not repent!

If you truly love and worship Christ, why do you refuse to follow His teachings?:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
wifeandmomoftwo said:
Your right your orientation is not a sin, YOUR ANAL/ORAL SEX ACTS WITH MALES IS, that will get you sent some place toasty if you do not repent!
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Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t.

II have to leave right now but i’ll get to all of your guy’s questions later.
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Scottgun said:
Make up your mind. A person attracted to the opposite sex can either control his actions, or he can’t. Even if same-sex attraction is in the genes, it doesn’t excuse him for the reasons given.
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if same sex attraction is in the genes then its time to scrap your bible which subjectively condemns homosexual acts. for how can you blame a person that acts out the very core nature that God has given him? there is a conflict here, which is wrong mother nature or that bundle of contradictions called the bible?
 
Teen4Christ said:
I’m not catholic anymore, i’m non-denominational. Yes, I believe God loves all and wouldn’t send someone to hell for their orientation, I don’t know. It’s a good username, I believe in Christ, I worship christ, I’ve read his word many times.
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Ah, so now we have clarification. So, why did you ask if you were destined to hell for your acts, when you have 1] already rejected the Catholic church and 2] have already made up your mind that God won’t send you to hell?

It strikes me as a bit disingenuous to pose what seemed like an earnest question when (it appears) there was not intent at legitimate dialogue or curiosity or education.

To answer your very original question, then: the Church does not presume to know for certain all whom God condemns and saves, but its interpretation of Scripture and sacred Tradition clearly teach that your acts are grievous sins; thus your soul is in eternal peril. If the Church is right (and I think it is), you may very well spend eternity in hell. If it is not (as you seem to think), what are you worried about?
 
AgnosTheist said:
if same sex attraction is in the genes then its time to scrap your bible which subjectively condemns homosexual acts. for how can you blame a person that acts out the very core nature that God has given him? there is a conflict here, which is wrong mother nature or that bundle of contradictions called the bible?
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Alcoholism also has a genetic component. Does that mean that it’s acceptable to abuse alcohol? 🤷
 
Teen4Christ said:
Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t.

II have to leave right now but i’ll get to all of your guy’s questions later.
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take this with you to wherever it is your going.

Homosexuality like any other sin of the flesh is of the devil. Whether it is commited by a heterosexual or a homosexual, it is of the devil.

You may consider yourself a christian but when you sin - you are in the domain of the devil. To justify a sin is to justify the devil’s philosophy.

People say that the greatest triumph of Satan was making people believe that he doesn’t exist…however I believe that the greatest trick he’s perpetrated on us is to make us think that there is plenty of time.
 
AgnosTheist said:
if same sex attraction is in the genes then its time to scrap your bible which subjectively condemns homosexual acts. for how can you blame a person that acts out the very core nature that God has given him? there is a conflict here, which is wrong mother nature or that bundle of contradictions called the bible?
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That’s a silly argument and you know it. Many heterosexuals manage to keep in their pants for years before marriage, and many are able to stay celibate their whole lives. We are rational beings; just because we have innate urges (I want to have sex with the pretty girl on the bus) does not mean we have to act on them. There is, therefore neither anything wrong with mother nature or the Bible.

Your basic starting point simply gives humans less credit than they deserve (in my opinion).
 
AgnosTheist said:
if same sex attraction is in the genes then its time to scrap your bible which subjectively condemns homosexual acts. for how can you blame a person that acts out the very core nature that God has given him? there is a conflict here, which is wrong mother nature or that bundle of contradictions called the bible?
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This is the tired It-exists-in-nature-therefore-it’s ok argument. For someone expounding reason in their sig, I would think why this is a turkey argument would be obvious. now you are just trolling. Bye-bye.
 
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