I'm an active homosexual, am I destined to hell?

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I think the temptations are probably all around, albeit differently…there have been women reported in the news…in local parishes, whatever…who have taken up with a priest. Priests who have left the priesthood to get married…priests who have molested children (although I wouldn’t call that a celibacy issue…I would call that criminal activity) But, I would imagine that priests have a difficult time with it, just like lay people do? (but through God’s grace, they remain celibate) For homosexual priests? I don’t know…
 
Why should we have to limit ourselves to a monogamous relationship? What’s wrong with polygamous relationships as long as everyone is an adult and intends for it to be lifelong? Who makes these rules anyway?
Personally, I don’t share well with others.😉

I suppose it is possible for a polygamous relationship to work in theory, but I haven’t seen one that actually worked in practice equally well for all members. Perhaps it is a case of the few that I have seen attempted tended not to have partners who were all equally honest about their level of desire to be committed to the polygamous aspect. They all became very skewed in terms of who held the power in the relationship and whether all members were equal. 🤷

Again, basically we are back to the same issue as on the other thread. Polygamous relationships are illegal in this country. Same sex relationships are not.
 
I will not judge your final destiny, as that is the role of God.

However, I can tell you that homosexual acts are a disgusting abomination in the Lords eyes and I beg you to turn away from that lifestyle and commit yourself to being chaste.
 
Active wasn’t the best word, I’ve had oral but not anal sex.

🙂
By your own definition above you are an active homosexual.
__3)-The Church does not treat homosexuality special. Many people make a big deal about homosexuality however the Church does not. The rules for homosexuals are the same rules for everybody. Sex outside marriage is forbidden from God not man. Sins require confession regardless of source.
The Four Sins Crying to Heaven for Vengeance
Willful murder (including abortion)
The sin of Sodom. (unnatural sex)
Oppression of the poor.
Defrauding laborers of their wages.
 
Polygamous relationships are illegal in this country. Same sex relationships are not.
Is that true? I don’t think it is. Polygamous marriage is unlawful, but then so are homosexual marriages in almost all states. How is a polygamous “relationship” illegal? My brother was in one (his wife claimed to be bi and brought another woman into the home…she eventually broke it off with both of them), and I didn’t know he was breaking any laws. 🤷
 
By your own definition above you are an active homosexual.

The Four Sins Crying to Heaven for Vengeance
Willful murder (including abortion)
The sin of Sodom. (unnatural sex)
Oppression of the poor.
Defrauding laborers of their wages.
The sin of the Sodomites was not unnatural sex. At least not neccessarily.

First, the account in Genesis makes it clear that this was not simply a case of homosexual sex, but of homosexual rape. In fact, it was more than homosexual rape: it was homosexual gang rape on a massive scale.

Second, the Prophet Ezekial identifies the sin of Sodom in chapter 16, verse 49 as being the sin of gross inhospitality: “Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.”

Homosexual sex certainly is a grave sin, as is any other form of unnatural sexual relations. However, I do not believe that it is one of the four sins that cry out to Heaven.

In the first place, we must recognize that there are at least three possibilities as to what exactly cries out to Heaven in Sodom. Secondly, we must look at how it compares to the other three sins. At first glance, we see that two of the sins are sins directed against the poor. Thus, to account the sin of Sodom, as Divinely inspired Scripture does, as inhospitality to the poor, would be fitting and would certainly seem to fit a theme. However, this does leave the sin of murder looking somewhat out of place.

On the other hand, if we allow ourselves to look at the sins more generally, a consistent pattern can be found. All four sins (taking the sin of Sodom according to Ezekial’s reckoning) are sins against life. Murder takes life away directly. The oppression of the poor leads to their death rather quickly as well, as it does not afford them the opportunities needed to rise out of poverty and support themselves. Defrauding laborers withholds from them what they need in order to survive: money for food and shelter. And finally, the sin of inhospitality to the poor withholds from them the help that they need in order to survive. St. Ambrose said, “Feed the hungry; if you do not feed him, you have, as far as you are concerned, slain him.”

And so it would seem highly probable that the sin of Sodom which cried out to Heaven was not, in fact, unnatural sex - grave though it be - but a sin against life. At the minimum, we can see that the other three sins crying out to Heaven are sins against another, that is to say, sins in which an oppresor dose evil to another. Unnatural sex is out of place amongst this group, as it is not an act involving a victim and an oppressor.

All of this being said, Teen4Christ, I have something you ought to do. There is a book called, “Beyond Gay,” by a fellow named David Morrison. He was a very prominent homosexual activist, and more importantly, homosexual himself. It is a very good book that is the farthest thing from what you might be used to or expect to hear from others who have encouraged you to avoid homosexual activity. I would really, really recommend you read this book. Not only is it very informative, it’s also very good reading and interesting. I think it will be of tremendous help to you, whatever you decide to do from this point forward.

God bless and good day!
 
I never got a clear answer,
It looks like you did get your answer, perhaps it is not what you want to hear/read but there it is!
Having a proclivity for unmarried heterosexual sex or any form of homosexual activity is not part of a good Christian life.

No one is destined to hell by the way; destiny implies fate or guarantee. We all have a chance to turn away. We all also have a chance to send ourselves there. It is our choice.
By continuing this sinful lifestyle is turning your back on God.
This is your choice not God’s.
But are you destined to hell? Not if you repent. Even at the last hour, we all can be saved if we are repentant (look at the thief who hung next to Christ)…but see, we don’t know the ‘hour in which He will return.’ That’s the key.

But, none of us can tell you where you will be going–for eternity. Only God will be the final judge. Thankfully, His mercy is unfathomable.
A good Christian is someone who obey the Ten Commandments out of the love for God.

If you break any of the Ten Commandments. I hardly think anyone is a good Christian, unless he repents and make a firm purpose of amendment to abstain from sin.
Sex outside marriage is forbidden from God not man. Sins require confession regardless of source.
. It is intending to do sin, and not to turn away from it that can land you in the realms of existence farthest from the heart of Jesus. There is no reason to hurt yourself. Ever. If you’ve asked for forgiveness, trust that your father, who loves you, has forgiven you. But if you don’t at least acknowledge the sin, and put some effort into turning away from it, you could be setting yourself up for a life, and an eternity without looking upon His glory, and feeling the warmth of his love.
If you are an active homosexual then you must go to confession and be absolved of your sins and then sin no more. Homosexual acts are gravely sinful.
 
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Teen4Christ? Now that you have the answers to your question…are you willing to “change for Christ?”
I’ll try…
The influence of hormones are so strong at your age… it has to be difficult for you. Perhaps getting some support would help. Steven Francis mentioned the group Courage. They are an apostolate of the Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II spoke highly of them. Maybe they are worth the time to contact them.
 
The influence of hormones are so strong at your age… it has to be difficult for you. Perhaps getting some support would help. Steven Francis mentioned the group Courage. They are an apostolate of the Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II spoke highly of them. Perhaps they might help you.
Couldnt agree more. Last time this group was suggested someone mentioned “brain washing”.🤷
 
The influence of hormones are so strong at your age… it has to be difficult for you. Perhaps getting some support would help. Steven Francis mentioned the group Courage. They are an apostolate of the Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II spoke highly of them. Maybe they are worth the time to contact them.
Yes, I’ve checked out the site numerous times. But every time I try to like girls or try to deny my attraction to men, I get extremely depressed and suicidal. I’m extremely confused about the matter.
😦
 
Yes, I’ve checked out the site numerous times. But every time I try to like girls or try to deny my attraction to men, I get extremely depressed and suicidal. I’m extremely confused about the matter.
😦
The goal of COURAGE is not to make you a heterosexual (which if you read their goals page you would of known)
**The following five goals of Courage were created by the members themselves, when Courage was founded. The goals are read at the start of each meeting and each member is called to practice them in daily life. **

Live chaste lives in accordance with the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching on homosexuality. (Chastity)
Dedicate ones life to Christ through service to others, spiritual reading, prayer, meditation, individual spiritual direction, frequent attendance at Mass, and the frequent reception of the sacraments of Reconciliation and Holy Eucharist. (Prayer and Dedication)
Foster a spirit of fellowship in which all may share thoughts and experiences, and so ensure that no one will have to face the problems of homosexuality alone. (Fellowship)
Be mindful of the truth that chaste friendships are not only possible but necessary in a chaste Christian life and in doing so provide encouragement to one another in forming and sustaining them. (Support)
Live lives that may serve as good examples to others. (Good Example)
 
Yes, I’ve checked out the site numerous times. But every time I try to like girls or try to deny my attraction to men, I get extremely depressed and suicidal. I’m extremely confused about the matter.
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Teen, first of all, I totally applaud your courage in opening up. That is the grace of God alive in your heart.

Are you destined to hell? Beats me. I stopped laying odds on such things years ago. Yeah, the Bible and the Church can tell you which sins are the charcoal ones, but only God knows the desires and the struggles of your heart. Turn to Him and place yourself in His merciful embrace.

I was in lesbian relationships for years and years. I witnessed the suicide of my dearest, dearest friend over her struggles with her faith and her sexuality. And I know the anguish I experienced myself. I totally understand the depression, the suicidal tendencies – they are real, and they are not to be taken lightly.

Eventually I left the Church as a way to keep myself alive – didn’t want to end up like my friend. But even during my time “wandering in the desert” I kept placing my trust in God to the extent that I was able. I kept telling Him, “I can’t seem to be any way other than this. If it’s wrong, please lead me away. But you’ll have to give me strength, because I can’t do it myself.” I can’t tell you how many times I prayed this over the course of some ten years. Like you, I also felt I was not destined to hell. God finally used my desire to have a child to start bringing me around. It was a long, slow process, five more years in fact before I even thought about calling myself a Christian again.

When I was a teen I was totally naive, and I blushed at the mention of sex. But once that door was opened, well, it was physically pleasure and emotional hell for me.

I’m not the poster child of repentance from homosexuality. But I’ve been there, done that, and somehow made it through back to the desire of my heart – a life fully lived for Christ.

Please feel free to PM me if you like. No judgments here. It’s all grace.

Gertie
 
Teen, first of all, I totally applaud your courage in opening up. That is the grace of God alive in your heart.

Are you destined to hell? Beats me. I stopped laying odds on such things years ago. Yeah, the Bible and the Church can tell you which sins are the charcoal ones, but only God knows the desires and the struggles of your heart. Turn to Him and place yourself in His merciful embrace.

I was in lesbian relationships for years and years. I witnessed the suicide of my dearest, dearest friend over her struggles with her faith and her sexuality. And I know the anguish I experienced myself. I totally understand the depression, the suicidal tendencies – they are real, and they are not to be taken lightly.

Eventually I left the Church as a way to keep myself alive – didn’t want to end up like my friend. But even during my time “wandering in the desert” I kept placing my trust in God to the extent that I was able. I kept telling Him, “I can’t seem to be any way other than this. If it’s wrong, please lead me away. But you’ll have to give me strength, because I can’t do it myself.” I can’t tell you how many times I prayed this over the course of some ten years. Like you, I also felt I was not destined to hell. God finally used my desire to have a child to start bringing me around. It was a long, slow process, five more years in fact before I even thought about calling myself a Christian again.

When I was a teen I was totally naive, and I blushed at the mention of sex. But once that door was opened, well, it was physically pleasure and emotional hell for me.

I’m not the poster child of repentance from homosexuality. But I’ve been there, done that, and somehow made it through back to the desire of my heart – a life fully lived for Christ.

Please feel free to PM me if you like. No judgments here. It’s all grace.

Gertie
Gertie,
Thank you for sharing this…
:blessyou:
 
Thanks everyone, but I’ve decided to just go with the flow for right now, maybe I’ll be attracted to a woman someday, maybe I won’t, but i’m not gonna continue beating a dead horse, it cause me too much pain. God bless you all.
-Matt
 
I try to live a good christian life for the most part, so am I? I believe i’m not but I would appreciate your take on the matter:)
I’ll look into my crystal ball…

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“Your destiny is to attract many opinionated posts by starting this thread”
 
Probably not. Bear in mind that God judges on a sliding scale. As God judges the heart, He begins with who you are. As a homosexual you are not judged in the same manner as a heterosexual, nor is a kleptomaniac judged the same as other people. The level of culpability differs. You cannot be faulted for not having what you have not been given.
Love as best you can; be faithful to your loves and trust in God’s love and mercy.

Matthew
 
Why should we have to limit ourselves to a monogamous relationship? What’s wrong with polygamous relationships as long as everyone is an adult and intends for it to be lifelong? Who makes these rules anyway?

Daddums 🙂
Personally, I don’t share well with others.😉
Please consider a polygamous relationship at best requires one party to NEVER dedicate them self fully to the children. And thus the true objective of the marriage is never achieved. In reality one party is placing other partners of flesh before the good of his children.

The Four Sins Crying to Heaven for Vengeance
Willful murder (including abortion)
The sin of Sodom. (unnatural sex)
Oppression of the poor.
Defrauding laborers of their wages.
The sin of the Sodomites was not unnatural sex. At least not neccessarily…
Lazerlike42 has spoken well, I would like to add the story of Sodom is repeated in which the girls (concubines) are put outside and the crowd has their way with them. The ending is very sad. It is clear by substituting the women for the men does not remove the sin (Kings?)
 
Yes, I’ve checked out the site numerous times. But every time I try to like girls or try to deny my attraction to men, I get extremely depressed and suicidal. I’m extremely confused about the matter.
😦
I don’t know if you should ‘force yourself’ to like girls…if this is your battle, give it to the Lord…and in your own strength, you cannot wage this battle --only God’s grace will be able to help you, in ways you cannot even imagine. Perhaps, just pray each night for enlightenment…and you will be surprised as to how the Lord will work in your heart and life.🙂
 
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