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Not a bad point. Not any more than practicing adulterers, masturbators, etc. etc.
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goofyjim
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Seems like heaven is going to be pretty lonely unless the mercy of God is greater than we can imagine.
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WAYNE_LEYDS
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he who is without sin may cast the 1st stone!!!
God loved us so much that while we were still sinners Christ died for us.
for All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
but then…it is also written …that no fornicator nor homosexual or drunkard…will inherent the kingdom of God!!
but we as humans cant speak for God.only say what we know is right and wrong and what has been revealed to us as morally good!!but if you feel that your actions or state is not right then make yourself right with God
God loved us so much that while we were still sinners Christ died for us.
for All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
but then…it is also written …that no fornicator nor homosexual or drunkard…will inherent the kingdom of God!!
but we as humans cant speak for God.only say what we know is right and wrong and what has been revealed to us as morally good!!but if you feel that your actions or state is not right then make yourself right with God
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goofyjim
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How do all those divorced and remarried individuals do this? They are in a perpetual state of adultery. Now if God can have enough mercy on them to let them into heaven His mercy can certainly extend even to the homosexual who may have been genetically attracted, got involved in the lifestyle without knowing the consequences and now is addicted.
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WAYNE_LEYDS
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yhow can some1 not know the consequences?either he is naive ignorant or just plain dumb.we know that Gods love and mercy extends beyond our understanding.but God is also a God of justice.
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goofyjim
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Then I guess all those who got divorced and remarried will be keeping the homosexuals company. In fact it is probably easier for the homosexual to discontinue the activity than it is for the remarried to get out of their situation making it easier actually for a homosexual to convert and reach heaven ahead of the others.
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PJM
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My dear friend in Christ,
I suspect you already know the answer, which is YES!
It’s not my Judgement, it’s God’s.
Sadly my dear friend in Christ it is what it is: "play now and PAY LATER!
Of repent and convert. With God all things are possible!
Love and prayers,
I suspect you already know the answer, which is YES!
It’s not my Judgement, it’s God’s.
Sadly my dear friend in Christ it is what it is: "play now and PAY LATER!
Of repent and convert. With God all things are possible!
Love and prayers,
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WAYNE_LEYDS
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my brothers in Christ do not be quick to judge because all of us have our own cross to carry.we do not know who is going to heaven.we have faith in jesus that he will raise us up on the last day and take us to His Fathers house.But we do not know who is not going.we cannot know this for certain because God and God alone is judge.i believe theres going to be alot of people who we think should not be there.where we think Gods love ends,Gods Love begins!!!
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PJM
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My dear Brother in Christ,
I fear that you caontinue to RUN from the TRUTH.
Mt.7:6 "You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. 18 A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will know them by their fruits.
1 Cor. 6: 9"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God."
Brother, do you not accept God at His Word?
We are not judging your motives, only the actions you admit too. God will do both. And God will not excuse your errant lifestyle, becasue He will give you the necessary grace to overcome it, if you repent and convert your life to him.
Their are hethersexual issues as peverse and as advictive as your. Those addicted to masterbation and pornography, have crosses with similar weight. Do you think God is going to condone these actions to? Of course not.
You have to want to repent and convert, and you have to do it with and through Jesus Christ.
These are not sins one can avoid by oneself.
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Becks
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This is one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever read. Just wanted to let you know that it touched me so much.
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WAYNE_LEYDS
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my point is not what is in the bible but that we cannot say what God will do.because we were enemies,far from God when Jesus came he did not come for the holy so it is now.God wants not 1 soul to be lost.even though we know what the bible says about sinners we also no what the bible says about His love…and i believe that Gods love is greater than Gods anger thats why i say again jesus died for us while we hated him!!!
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Just to answer your titular question, no, as the idea of being destined for hell implies the Calvinistic idea of Reprobation, and serves to dimish free will. Hell, or Heaven, are entirely up to you. So which will we choose today?
ahem At the same time (and let these not be devilish words that might lead to despair) none of us are very likely to enter heaven at all.
After all, as I remember the tale, on the day that 33,000 died, 2 made it to heaven, I’m now told 3 to purgatory, and the rest, damned for all eternity.
But then…considering the splendour of heaven, and the supreme wretchedness of our daily lives…that ratio seems about right, don’t you think?
ahem At the same time (and let these not be devilish words that might lead to despair) none of us are very likely to enter heaven at all.
After all, as I remember the tale, on the day that 33,000 died, 2 made it to heaven, I’m now told 3 to purgatory, and the rest, damned for all eternity.
But then…considering the splendour of heaven, and the supreme wretchedness of our daily lives…that ratio seems about right, don’t you think?
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PJM
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My dear Brother in Christ,
Please know that my heart goes out to you. My younger brother was an active homosexual, may he rest in peace.
I am not being judgemental. Your OP ask if the active homomsexual lifestyle will end you in hell? You suspect (correctly so) that it might or you would not have posed the question.
I have provided mutiple bible quotes of our Blessed Lord Jesus which affirm the seriousness of these actions.And the consequences.
Your words of anquish are quite beautiful and moving, however you seem to be trying to resolve the issue on your own. It cannot be done by yourself. You need God’s regular involvement. You might consider finding a “priest for a spiritual advisor.”?
Know that you continue in my prayers. Brother, do not rely on God’s Mercy and Love to over rule God’s JUSTICE! That is not at all a “safe bet.” Even Gos (because He is God) cannot replace one with the other. God is and must be all three.
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wasmit
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All homosexuals are destined to go to hell. You will burn forever in the firey pits of hell.I try to live a good christian life for the most part, so am I? I believe i’m not but I would appreciate your take on the matter
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doughnut
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i am wondering if you are posting this, in the hopes of getting at least some favorable views in light of your ‘condition’ so that you can assured yourself you are not in the wrong, and may continue to do what you wanted to do.
whilst nobody can tell you for certainty if hell is where you’re heading, i think there are enough teachings within the church, and certainly within your reach, in regards to “active homosexual lifestyle.”
in short, aligned your lifestyle as how Jesus would live his, and you won’t be too far from the mark.
whilst nobody can tell you for certainty if hell is where you’re heading, i think there are enough teachings within the church, and certainly within your reach, in regards to “active homosexual lifestyle.”
in short, aligned your lifestyle as how Jesus would live his, and you won’t be too far from the mark.
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PJM
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Dear friend in Christ,
So are you saying (because the Catholic Church does not!) that one who is in serious sin can’t repent and convert? Can’t be saved?
And where is your charity, perfect one?
Love and prayers,
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WAYNE_LEYDS
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im getting this feeling that people are discrimate and there is much hatred in their hearts.why are we so quick to condemn.peoples sins are between themselves and God.who are we to judge?do we not sin?if we are so quick to judge and condemn the gay or the divorced.what about the rest of us.we all sin!and dont convince yourself that your sin is less than the gays sin.dont be like the chief priests and pharisees who sat on their high horses and condemned their people.
my brother you as a Christian know what is spelt out in the bible about homosexuality.about sin.but i cannot condemn you to hell.judgement is for God and Him alone.i as your brother can only pray for you and i ask that you do the same.
my brother you as a Christian know what is spelt out in the bible about homosexuality.about sin.but i cannot condemn you to hell.judgement is for God and Him alone.i as your brother can only pray for you and i ask that you do the same.
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PJM
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Caution Friend,
Your not in agreement with Jesus Christ.
**Luke 17:
1 And he said to his disciples, “Temptations to sin are sure to come; but woe to him by whom they come! 2 It would be better for him if a millstone were hung round his neck and he were cast into the sea, than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin. * 3* Take heed to yourselves; if your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him; 4 and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, and says, ‘I repent,’ you must forgive him.” **
My dear friend in Christ,
This is my forth attempt Brother, to try to get you to understand, that your plea for clemency needs to be between you and God. Not the posters on this forum.
You, dear friend would be wisely and prudently advided to repent and convert. You know well the seriousness of your lifestyle and the consequences, if you do not REPENT and CONVERT!
That is not passing judgement dear friend, it is one Brother helping (trying to) another Chrsitian Brother. I’ll keep praying for you, but your ignoring the information that I have shared with you, is putting your soul at risk.
I’ll keep praying for you but am signing off this OP, because you are not listening to your God, nor to me, and we prove love you.
Love and prayers,
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goofyjim
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The fact is we have abolutely no idea where someone is destined to go. We don’t know God’s plan for anyone else let alone for ourselves. So my answer is silence. There is no yes or no in answer to the OPs question. Those who have it all figured out either direction must be gods but since you aren’t I’ll close my ears to this whole thread.
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WAYNE_LEYDS
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why do i get the feeling you think im gay??lol!!your quotation is out of context.jesus was refurring to sins that was against another brother.how can YOU forgive homosexualty?you obviosly dont know the depth of this guys disposition.people do not choose to be gay.they are born with it!! its as natural as a guy been attracted to a girl.
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