Immaculate Conception Readings confusing

[Julius_Caesar]

Yet none before Augustine denied a vow.

Which says nothing and adds to my point that a vow is pious speculation.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

Now I know that a married woman cannot know where kids come from because

Keep strawmanning.

 

[Cathoholic]

Which says nothing and adds to my point that a vow is pious speculation.

I disagree. I think it is common sense.

Keep strawmanning.

Except I linked to your “strawman”.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

I disagree

Well I’m glad it doesn’t depend on you.

 

[hope]

When you can’t prove a point your adversary is.now.a heretic.

Where does it say that you are a heretic? I wonder why you would deny a point that is about Mary being ever virgin? IT doesn’t make you a heretic but it is an unsuccessful attempt to avoid the rest of the post

I have answered your post.
I pointed out to you that your claim that no one before Augustine held that the scripture implied a vow was not correct. I gave you many links to this falsity which you claimed to have read but you obvious didn’t since you made the claim that they didn’t provide any evidence which I than quoted and as usual you ignored.
You have been corrected about how long the betrothal was. No answer.
You keep claiming that conception happened immediately. When several people have pointed out to you that the words of Gabriel was for a future event. Ignored
The Homily of St Gregory. Ignored

When you can’t answer deflect.

 

[hope]

Yet none before Augustine spoke of a vow.

Not true as I already have shown in a post you chose to ignore or deflect

The Homily of St Gregory which you ignore

 

[hope]

Keep strawmanning.

Not a strawman but a deflection on your part so you can make a glib answer without addressing the rational arguments that have totally destroyed your viewpoint.

 

[JimG]

All my life I have heard that Mary was a consecrated virgin before her betrothal to Joseph.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

The Homily of St Gregory which you ignore

I’ve dealt with him.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

I gave you many links to this falsity which you claimed to have read but you obvious didn’t since you made the claim that they didn’t provide any evidence which I than quoted and as usual you ignored.

Like how you ignored my links? Pot meet kettle.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

Pious speculation.

 

[hope]

I’ve dealt with him.

where? Not in any post here.

Not one link have I ignored. You have ignored my answer to them.

Protestant blindness.

 

[JimG]

Pious speculation perhaps, but your speculation seems more bizarre.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

but your speculation seems more bizarre.

As does yours.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

Protestant blindness.

When a person deals with your evidence you call them a heretic. Bye.

 

[hope]

Protestant

When a person deals with your evidence you call them a heretic. Bye.

You didn’t deal with my evidence. You claim you answered it but there is no evidence. I didn’t call you a heretic. What I said was the argument presented was Protestant. I guess it is a good excuse when you can’t defend.

 

[hope]

cute but unresponsive.

 

[hope]

I’ve dealt with him.

I have just reviewed your 61 post nary a word about the Homily of St Gregory.

Like how you ignored my links? Pot meet kettle.

You had two links

This was my partial reply to one

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. In the article there were severable errors due to not understanding either the Greek language or the Jewish tradition.

The other link I answered too:

As for your link to the Jewish marriage right it supports what I have been writing. I could not find that they had to be “pure” for a year. Only that it could take “up” to a year to prepare for the second part of marriage. Joseph fulfilled the second part of marriage, as the angel commanded, before Mary gave birth.

You are incorrect in your statements.

 

[Petra202]

Mary went with haste to see her cousin Elizabeth and Elizabeth knew already she was pregnant!

 

[hope]

True but that doesn’t change that Gabriel spoke in the future tense. As I said in one post, it was future but how far into the future is speculation. I believe it was when she said yes. There is no indication from Gabriel that it would be immediate. Mary would not have known when either. Only that it was a future event. Only after her question did Gabriel give explain that it would be through the Holy Spirit. As you point out, Mary was pregnant when she entered the house of Zacharias. Scripture is silent on when the Holy Spirit over shadowed her.