Immodesty and the lack of respect for women - two sides of the same coin.

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you ain’t so bad 🙂

I try so hard not to be a Pharasee and think I’m better than those terrible Tax Collectors 😃
lol, again, my personal preference. If you knew myself and my wife prior to our faith journey, your mouth would drop. The gal’s picture I googled had more clothing than what my wife used to wear. I stress used to as she dresses very modestly now. 😛
 
My heart goes out to you. That’s why we must stand against dress that even borders the lines of immodesty. Because we have been sitting back and letting dress get more revealing, as well as accepting immodesty as a “norm”, unpleasant things like this happen.

You agree bikinis are immodest, correct?
So what would you do if you saw me wearing a bikini? Even if I were with my husband acting very modest and modestly covered up. Would you judge me and think I’m a hoochie?

Are you a Pharasee or a Tax Collector???

I’m a bit of both, but I’d rather be the Tax Collector and not make a judgement call that all bikinis are immodest. That’s just me.

I look at each individual as a person.

I have been watching Jersey Shore and THAT is over the top on immorality :eek:
 
So what would you do if you saw me wearing a bikini? Even if I were with my husband acting very modest and modestly covered up. Would you judge me and think I’m a hoochie?

Are you a Pharasee or a Tax Collector???

I’m a bit of both, but I’d rather be the Tax Collector and not make a judgement call that all bikinis are immodest. That’s just me.

I look at each individual as a person.

I have been watching Jersey Shore and THAT is over the top on immorality :eek:
Hoochie! 😛

Just Kidding. 😃
 
Again, this is my personal pref and not Church teaching.
Yes, I tend to think women are more feminine in dresses and skirts. I feel prettiest for my husband when I wear a dress. Although, ironically, some of my trousers are more modest than my dresses. 🤷 I refuse to wear shorts, because I feel exposed when I have bared thighs. I also will not leave the house if a skirt or dress exposes any portion of my thigh when I sit down or bend over. So, during the hot times of the year, I will wear capris when I want to be very active (even for working out I wear capri-length pants), or I wear longer sundresses (which I often have to layer with T-shirts or camisoles). Anyway, I share this to show that it is possible to have a preference for a specific kind of attire, but still I must make some exceptions for certain activities and wear trousers. 🙂 And I am glad that the Catholic Church allows for that decision-making to be done by the individual person and their family, because some Christian women are not so lucky. 😦
 
So what would you do if you saw me wearing a bikini? Even if I were with my husband acting very modest and modestly covered up. Would you judge me and think I’m a hoochie?

Are you a Pharasee or a Tax Collector???

I’m a bit of both, but I’d rather be the Tax Collector and not make a judgement call that all bikinis are immodest. That’s just me.

I look at each individual as a person.

I have been watching Jersey Shore and THAT is over the top on immorality :eek:
I think she would, just based on her posts.

I would just wish that I could have a better body. Then cry bitter tears in my vodka. And then make an appointment for liposuction.

And that is why I don’t have a place in the Catholic Church.

Honestly, this thread has made me really not like Catholics! I mean, wow, I could be going to Mass and people are judging me based on the fact that wore jeans?
 
Hoochie! 😛

LOL!!! It’s so great to see humor on this thread. Even though we may not have the same opinion, we respect eachother and we are not trying to change the other person’s opinion.

I really respect you for that!!! You are one of those icky Tax Collectors after all 😛

Just Kidding. 😃
 
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Shhh, nobody knows I work for the IRS.
 
Yes, I tend to think women are more feminine in dresses and skirts. I feel prettiest for my husband when I wear a dress. Although, ironically, some of my trousers are more modest than my dresses. 🤷 I refuse to wear shorts, because I feel exposed when I have bared thighs. I also will not leave the house if a skirt or dress exposes any portion of my thigh when I sit down or bend over. So, during the hot times of the year, I will wear capris when I want to be very active (even for working out I wear capri-length pants), or I wear longer sundresses (which I often have to layer with T-shirts or camisoles). Anyway, I share this to show that it is possible to have a preference for a specific kind of attire, but still I must make some exceptions for certain activities and wear trousers. 🙂 And I am glad that the Catholic Church allows for that decision-making to be done by the individual person and their family, because some Christian women are not so lucky. 😦
Hi Mommamaree!!! I bet you’ll be glad to get rid of those MAT clothes 😛
 
I think she would, just based on her posts.

I would just wish that I could have a better body. Then cry bitter tears in my vodka. And then make an appointment for liposuction.

And that is why I don’t have a place in the Catholic Church.

Honestly, this thread has made me really not like Catholics! I mean, wow, I could be going to Mass and people are judging me based on the fact that wore jeans?
I wouldn’t 😛
 
I wouldn’t 😛
Nor would I, CountrySinger!!!

But beyond that, discussing hypothetical types of attire is not the same thing as judging a person based upon their outfit selection. Like StFrancisXavier said, certain things are a matter of personal preference, not a Church teaching. Don’t let the discussion get you down! You are too great a lady to be dragged down with feeling condemned by personal opinions. 🙂
 
Hi Mommamaree!!! I bet you’ll be glad to get rid of those MAT clothes 😛
Yeah, so beyond ready. I am already overdue, and seriously making a scene every time I go out in public. You know how people on the thread have referred to the fact that modesty involves behavior and body language too? Well, I feel VERY immodest parading by rotund belly around in public. Talk about people becoming distracted and staring at a woman’s body during mass!!! People went slack-jawed today and stopped singing, praying, etc as they witnessed me trying to find my seat and follow along with mass and postures. There I was, trying to pray with my hands folded and eyes lowered, while I knew that so many people on my side of the parish hall were staring at me the whole time. :rolleyes: Thankfully, God still blessed me immensely for just being there today. The priest approached me to ask if I was overdue and said he would pray for me. The mass was very beautiful today and the homily was just what I needed. So many friends came up to me to offer encouragement and ask how I was doing. Although one friend actually shouted across the campus “You are SOOO pregnant, Oh my gosh!” :eek: Yeah, so modesty has more to do with apparel…😊
 
Nor would I, CountrySinger!!!

But beyond that, discussing hypothetical types of attire is not the same thing as judging a person based upon their outfit selection. Like StFrancisXavier said, certain things are a matter of personal preference, not a Church teaching. Don’t let the discussion get you down! You are too great a lady to be dragged down with feeling condemned by personal opinions. 🙂
Thank you! 🙂

I guess I’m still sensitive from the mean girl from my parish who is constantly harassing me about me being engaged. When my engagement was announced at Mass last night, she exclaimed in front of the congregation “I give them less than a year”. I was this close to punching her out. She also said that “what Catholic man would want to marry you?” I almost said “a Catholic man who likes DDs!” 😛
 
Yeah, so beyond ready. I am already overdue, and seriously making a scene every time I go out in public. You know how people on the thread have referred to the fact that modesty involves behavior and body language too? Well, I feel VERY immodest parading by rotund belly around in public. Talk about people becoming distracted and staring at a woman’s body during mass!!! People went slack-jawed today and stopped singing, praying, etc as they witnessed me trying to find my seat and follow along with mass and postures. There I was, trying to pray with my hands folded and eyes lowered, while I knew that so many people on my side of the parish hall were staring at me the whole time. :rolleyes: Thankfully, God still blessed me immensely for just being there today. The priest approached me to ask if I was overdue and said he would pray for me. The mass was very beautiful today and the homily was just what I needed. So many friends came up to me to offer encouragement and ask how I was doing. Although one friend actually shouted across the campus “You are SOOO pregnant, Oh my gosh!” :eek: Yeah, so modesty has more to do with apparel…😊
See, if you dressed like the Blessed Mother they would never have known. 😃
 
Thank you! 🙂

I guess I’m still sensitive from the mean girl from my parish who is constantly harassing me about me being engaged. When my engagement was announced at Mass last night, she exclaimed in front of the congregation “I give them less than a year”. I was this close to punching her out. She also said that “what Catholic man would want to marry you?” I almost said “a Catholic man who likes DDs!” 😛
Are you kidding me!!! :mad: Did no one censor her for her behavior? That is absolutely uncalled for! I hope the priest chastised her for the comment. Not only did she disrupt the mass, but she did so with a hate-filled and envious heart, attempting to humiliate a fellow Catholic for her anger at your joy. What a pathetic person.
 
Are you kidding me!!! :mad: Did no one censor her for her behavior? That is absolutely uncalled for! I hope the priest chastised her for the comment. Not only did she disrupt the mass, but she did so with a hate-filled and envious heart, attempting to humiliate a fellow Catholic for her anger at your joy. What a pathetic person.
Yes she is. But oh well. In a little over 6 months, I’ll be married and happy in the UK, and she will still be miserable. I have to tell myself that she is jealous. Like anyone should be jealous of me. 😛 Oh, I want to be fat and have bad hair like CountrySinger. Lol.
 
So what would you do if you saw me wearing a bikini? Even if I were with my husband acting very modest and modestly covered up. Would you judge me and think I’m a hoochie?

Are you a Pharasee or a Tax Collector???

I’m a bit of both, but I’d rather be the Tax Collector and not make a judgement call that all bikinis are immodest. That’s just me.

I look at each individual as a person.

I have been watching Jersey Shore and THAT is over the top on immorality :eek:
I got to thinking, after seeing others use the word “Hoochie” on here after I used it in a comment, that some of the regulars on this thread might have thought I was calling them a “hoochie” because I used that word to describe some of the clothes described on here as immodest- bikinis/bikini tops worn places other than the pool/beach, etc.) Please know that I wasn’t pointing a finger at any one of you ladies. The picture that “StFrancisXavier” posted of that brunette in a belly-baring cami is definitely what I would call a “Hoochie”…just her smirk tells you she knows she has a great body and she doesn’t care where she is or who she offends, she will wear it because she wants to (sort of a “I will not serve” attitude that got Lucifer thrown out of Heaven). I don’t think any of the ladies on here who live in a hot climate and wear tanks and shorts even come close to that “Snookie” bimbo on the Jersey Shore either, so again, I hope I didn’t offend any of you.
 
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